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doesn't the income restriction on the HOV stickers only apply to people wanting both the rebate AND the sticker? if you're rich and you don't care about the rebate because you're just buying the special lane pass anyway it has no effect?
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Mar 19, 2019 23:23
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iospace posted:The best part of the Metro is YOU'RE A PASSENGER, YOU GET TO SIT ON YOUR PHONE AND DICK AROUND AND NO ONE WILL YELL AT YOU. iospace posted:Oh, and riding your bike means you get exercise. all of this. if you live in an area with good public transit like Seattle or Portland then you’d be an idiot not to use it especially in Seattle where the busses use the hov lane which effectively means I get home faster than if I drove (and I don’t have to worry about parking!) BobHoward posted:hov lanes seem to be bullshit in the first place that’s part of the idea (the other part is to make it so public transit can operate faster by avoiding tons of traffic) you want to discourage people from driving and encourage them to commute using other methods that don’t involve a car, which means clearing a path for busses and people who carpool they absolutely work, and while the speed difference is pretty high at times, I have yet to see an accident occur from that (I do see flaming cars on the opposite side of the freeway from time to time though, those are always fun to see)
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Mar 19, 2019 23:24
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lancemantis posted:doesn't the income restriction on the HOV stickers only apply to people wanting both the rebate AND the sticker? if you're rich and you don't care about the rebate because you're just buying the special lane pass anyway it has no effect? hey you're right lol all the reporting seems to have overlooked this
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Mar 19, 2019 23:31
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i take the train to work but only because my company has the caltrain gopass so i get free rides. if i had to pay full fare it wouldn't make financial sense and i would just drive. train sure is nice for the ol sanity though
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Mar 19, 2019 23:34
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iospace posted:Yeah but this way you get to do it legally. And avoid tickets. im convinced that tickets only dissuade people who already somewhat conscientious and people who drive like assholes going 25+ everywhere while checking their facebook and swerving all over the road will just still do it like i wish the person doing burnouts in my parking deck at 4 this morning would get a ticket, but they have already made the choice not to care about anyone else around them so not sure what it would help other than be a minor inconvenience heated game moment fucked around with this message at 23:45 on Mar 19, 2019 |
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Mar 19, 2019 23:41
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it's blindingly obvious how the whole "solo driver pays to use hov lane, toll adjusted dynamically based on demand" bs is going to work in the bay area. the type of 101 commuter who will pay makes so much money and considers their time to be so valuable that they will immediately bid the price up so high that no regular person could possibly justify it regardless of need. it'll just be a separate lane for rich people. i can sure see why the funding agencies are frothing at the mouth to implement this, but i don't see how anyone else could be convinced that this brings any sort of societal benefit, aside from occasional use by public commuter buses (which currently don't exist, at least not on 101)
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Mar 19, 2019 23:42
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it's also why their current master plan runs those managed lanes from 4th and king in sf down to mountain view kinda gives the game away a little that they're not already reaching into sj also 101 currently has double hov lanes in each direction during its run through mountain view lol who signed off on that nonsense
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Mar 20, 2019 00:10
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holy poo poo. "luxury" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtCTu8wwL5o
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Mar 20, 2019 00:33
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Holy loving poo poo.
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Mar 20, 2019 00:42
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mystes posted:I think the start location in that map is literally on top of the dunn loring metro station. yeah wtf. anyone who's bitching about that is an idiot who's scared of URBANS on the train
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Mar 20, 2019 00:48
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Endless Mike posted:holy poo poo. "luxury" lammo
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Mar 20, 2019 00:50
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Endless Mike posted:holy poo poo. "luxury" lol
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Mar 20, 2019 00:56
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infernal machines posted:sounds like the tolls are too low there is specifically an array of subway stations at the edge of the beltway, for people coming from outside it to drive to and park at. as well as like 2 seperate commuter rail routesthat interchange with the subway at different points. also on the maryland side? even more subway stations at the beltway edge due to historic reasons (namely: cheaper to expand that direction due to not crossing the potomac) the dc metro has a ton of problems, but lack of ability to shuffle suburban commuters onto it to avoid the inside-beltway megasucktraffic isn't one of them also rmeinder that before tolling was opened on 66, it was instead straight up illegal to travel in the rush hour direction during rush hour as a single driver, so the state collected massive amounts of cash from state hughway patrol nabbing all the people who violated it. and a lot of those people would get caught multiple times a month and just keep doing it - so of course they'll pay a $50 toll every day now
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Mar 20, 2019 01:00
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iospace posted:No joke a conversation I had today: 
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Mar 20, 2019 01:24
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tesla dogshit garbage, who knew
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Mar 20, 2019 01:27
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aren't express lane tolls just the purest form of "tax the rich" though?
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Mar 20, 2019 01:31
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Savington posted:aren't express lane tolls just the purest form of "tax the rich" though? no, because it's a regressive tax
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Mar 20, 2019 01:37
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Savington posted:aren't express lane tolls just the purest form of "tax the rich" though? If they actually just taxed the rich they could pay for transit that would actually fix problems instead of just creating a rich people lane.
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Mar 20, 2019 01:49
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well the project's only just been awarded for design so the toll structure hasn't been finalized yet, but i've been told that a true, unrestricted pricing scheme that would actually result in the fabled $100+ toll is "politically untenable" and that it'll almost certainly have an upper bound put on it - maybe ~$40 max for the whole length idk what's precisely under consideration
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Mar 20, 2019 02:37
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Endless Mike posted:holy poo poo. "luxury" i was expecting something like 'i put a hot cup of coffee there' hoo boy did i set my expectations too high lmfao
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Mar 20, 2019 03:26
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:well the project's only just been awarded for design so the toll structure hasn't been finalized yet, but i've been told that a true, unrestricted pricing scheme that would actually result in the fabled $100+ toll is "politically untenable" and that it'll almost certainly have an upper bound put on it - maybe ~$40 max for the whole length idk what's precisely under consideration just do what everyone else does and do a time-based phase in so that it's not the problem of the current political deciders
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Mar 20, 2019 03:28
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Rex-Goliath posted:i was expecting something like 'i put a hot cup of coffee there' at first glance I thought it was some weird break through in glass but holy lol
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Mar 20, 2019 03:55
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fishmech posted:also rmeinder that before tolling was opened on 66, it was instead straight up illegal to travel in the rush hour direction during rush hour as a single driver, so the state collected massive amounts of cash from state hughway patrol nabbing all the people who violated it. and a lot of those people would get caught multiple times a month and just keep doing it - so of course they'll pay a $50 toll every day now iirc they had trouble with people treating the fines like a toll and passed a new fine which increased every time you got one and several people had gotten caught so many times that the fines had ratcheted up to the Max at around $1k every time and this drove on it. flagrantly violate the law every single day no problem if you pay, drive 80.5mph anywhere in the state get sent to jail for a year. ah....Virginia.
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Mar 20, 2019 03:58
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i would like it if buses got preferential stoplight treatment of a certain type. basically every direction of the intersection turns red, and then the bus gets to roll through while a special traffic light turns on that has a picture of a bus and says BUS in big shiny letters. this sign will be funded by a special fee that CHUDs have to pay every time they want to lodge a public complaint about the special BUS sign e: also buses in metro MSP don't use the HOV lane. they get to drive on the shoulder of the road during rush hour past evvvvvverybody 
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Mar 20, 2019 04:29
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the model 3s glossy center console is a mistake and stays clean for 5 minutes max.
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Mar 20, 2019 04:31
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Nfcknblvbl posted:the model 3s
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Mar 20, 2019 04:39
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Endless Mike posted:holy poo poo. "luxury" love Too need to use dbrand on every surface of my car! *but I love this 3M*
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Mar 20, 2019 05:03
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Jabor posted:just do what everyone else does and do a time-based phase in so that it's not the problem of the current political deciders well we were the second group to do prelim design on it and the first was started in like 2016, they could get the legal or public-facing legislative stuff set up years before it opens, iirc it's projected to be like 2024 which really means 2025 or 26 at least - there's a shitload of bridges that'll need to be widened as part of it
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Mar 20, 2019 05:34
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all model 3s are going to be peeling apart within a year or two. really capturing that sears floor model electronic feel
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Mar 20, 2019 05:44
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they'll also be rusting terribly
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Mar 20, 2019 05:45
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Endless Mike posted:holy poo poo. "luxury" Good news: the ugly glossy plastic is removable!
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Mar 20, 2019 07:46
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Lutha Mahtin posted:e: also buses in metro MSP don't use the HOV lane. they get to drive on the shoulder of the road during rush hour past evvvvvverybody when I went to school downtown this owned. loving busses sailing past everybody
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Mar 20, 2019 08:05
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xiamen has a giant elevated brt system and it owns
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Mar 20, 2019 09:58
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evilweasel posted:lol you know you're in trouble when you're trying to file a reply to a reply, that means you're solidly in "we're hosed ready the hail mary" land on the one hand the SEC now tagging in all those new tweets and all but directly saying they are also in violation is new stuff. on the other the only reason they weren't in the original contempt filing was because Musk's lawyers dragged their feet in responding to the SEC's demand to inspect the pre-approval paperwork. so I can't see the judge being all that sympathetic to Musk.
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Mar 20, 2019 12:17
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Shifty Pony posted:on the one hand the SEC now tagging in all those new tweets and all but directly saying they are also in violation is new stuff. the judge is going to fine him and tell him to comply with the order. this may include periodic reporting on the pre-approval status.
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Mar 20, 2019 14:05
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we know the solution for transit we just have to implement it yes i am of course talking about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZjnhL4WddE
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Mar 20, 2019 14:28
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hey guys, guess what?drgitlin posted:Autopilot is actively trying to kill its users again: https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/b36x27/its_back_after_6_months_of_working_fine_2019515/ lol. feature regressions and no user communication regarding changes to life critical systems. they're not just a software company, they're a really bad software company
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tbf he actually has a valid point about that, american drivers are dangerously inept
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