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drgitlin posted:Agreed. as I wrote in the opening of my review, it’s not the garbagemobile this thread wishes it was.
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lancemantis posted:i don't know as a person that drove manual transmissions for years i don't think any type of transmission can make anything really all that much more fun that wasn't meant to be in the first place manual transmissions should be illegal on new cars tbh. Just put in a dummy reaction mode with some game controller rumble motors and speakers in the car that activate when someone wants to shift
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Mar 22, 2019 22:53
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drgitlin posted:Agreed. as I wrote in the opening of my review, it’s not the garbagemobile this thread wishes it was. did you have a chance to take it for a spin in the rain/snow?
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Mar 22, 2019 23:23
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infernal machines posted:did you have a chance to take it for a spin in the rain/snow? It did rain a bit, the car was fine. Even the auto wipers worked. I’m dying to try one on a track at some point because I think there’s actually a really good driver’s car in there. But the one I had was on winter tires and I’m also not going try and find a car’s limit on the public road for obvious reasons, so that’s just supposition.
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Mar 22, 2019 23:32
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i saw the bit about winter tires, but i didn't see any mention of rain or snow so i was curious. no drainage issues in your test car then?
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Mar 22, 2019 23:37
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No, but we didn’t have any truly bad weather during the time with the car.
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Mar 22, 2019 23:52
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here's musk's attorney's response to the SEC response: https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.501755/gov.uscourts.nysd.501755.33.0_2.pdf
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Mar 23, 2019 00:05
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fishmech posted:manual transmissions should be illegal on new cars tbh. Im glad your parents are dead
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Mar 23, 2019 00:07
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Combat Theory posted:Im glad your parents are dead 
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Mar 23, 2019 00:09
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Combat Theory posted:Im glad your parents are dead they aint, but pretty weird for a german to be saying that about a jew jus sayin
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Mar 23, 2019 00:21
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Shifty Pony posted:here's musk's attorney's response to the SEC response: thx pony good poo poo. when's the hearing/ruling?
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Mar 23, 2019 00:21
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Combat Theory posted:Im glad your parents are dead 
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Mar 23, 2019 00:23
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fishmech posted:they aint, but pretty weird for a german to be saying that about a jew jus sayin You deal out pointless and controversial statements but can't take any obvious exaggerated bullshit back without falling to racism. That's even weaker than the hot take you opened with. You wanna bring forth a technical argument instead of constantly trying to piss of OPs then please do, otherwise your sentence and mine are the same level of thread contribution. On a serious note I wish you and every other poster here a happy, peaceful long life. Combat Theory fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Mar 23, 2019 |
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Mar 23, 2019 00:25
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Combat Theory posted:You deal out pointless and controversial statements but can't take any obvious exaggerated bullshit back without falling to racism. That's even weaker than the hot take you opened with. lol ops have no rights
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Mar 23, 2019 00:30
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Combat Theory posted:You deal out pointless and controversial statements but can't take any obvious exaggerated bullshit back without falling to racism. That's even weaker than the hot take you opened with. but if you’re not here to piss people off, then what are you doing on the internet??
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Mar 23, 2019 00:33
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My Linux Rig posted:but if you’re not here to piss people off, then what are you doing on the internet?? I thought this was a drive through
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My Linux Rig posted:but if you’re not here to piss people off, then what are you doing on the internet??
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Mar 23, 2019 00:49
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Shifty Pony posted:here's musk's attorney's response to the SEC response: quote:The SEC’s Reply makes clear that its effort to hold Musk in contempt relies on a radical reinterpretation of the Order that would impose sweeping restrictions to which Musk never consented. For example, the SEC asserts that tweets that touch upon broad subjects identified for illustrative purposes in the Policy are necessarily material. The SEC also asserts that any tweet which contains “substantive information about Tesla and its business” (regardless of how immaterial the information may be as a matter of law) requires pre-approval. Reply at 10. And the SEC shows, through its selection of ten tweets, that no matter how innocuous, how well known, or how removed from the subjects mentioned in the Policy, because the tweet concerns Tesla,1 the SEC believes Musk must have them pre-approved.  he’s so hosed
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hobbesmaster posted:
evilweasel can probably speak better to the phenomenon but I've always noticed that the angry tone of a legal document is inversely proportional to how strong the arguments are. five pages of "unfounded" and "clearly erroneous" scattered with citations is nowhere near as terrifying as a single page which starts "Applicant respectfully notes paragraph 0042 of the reference document, which states..." that sur reply is a very angry document.
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Mar 23, 2019 01:23
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Sagebrush posted:You buy Audis lol
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🤐 imo
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My Linux Rig posted:no thanks, I’m not sure I’d feel safe in a car that routinely either automatically drives into trucks or spontaneously combusts I won’t go near those death traps and I. avoid them as if they are an old Dell, note 7 or new HP laptop when they’re not moving.
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Mar 23, 2019 01:37
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Shifty Pony posted:evilweasel can probably speak better to the phenomenon but I've always noticed that the angry tone of a legal document is inversely proportional to how strong the arguments are.
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:evilweasel got perma'd no i think they're still posting, even in this very thread!
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Mar 23, 2019 01:47
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Shifty Pony posted:evilweasel can probably speak better to the phenomenon but I've always noticed that the angry tone of a legal document is inversely proportional to how strong the arguments are. well sure, I imagine if you’re confident in your argument then you’ll probably be pretty calm though wasn’t the sec response fairly angry too? My Linux Rig fucked around with this message at 02:16 on Mar 23, 2019 |
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Mar 23, 2019 02:13
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fishmech posted:they aint, but pretty weird for a german to be saying that about a jew jus sayin 
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Shifty Pony posted:evilweasel can probably speak better to the phenomenon but I've always noticed that the angry tone of a legal document is inversely proportional to how strong the arguments are. i like the mic dicta hypothesis that the bigger rear end in a top hat tends to lose
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:i like the mic dicta hypothesis that the bigger rear end in a top hat tends to lose I enjoyed mic dicta. I'm glad I'm not nearly online enough to know what brought it down,
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:i wanted to actually drive the car before forming an opinion about it, yes, unlike the posters itt who openly brag about having never driven one and also not owning a car or having a license at all drgitlin posted:Agreed. as I wrote in the opening of my review, it’s not the garbagemobile this thread wishes it was. lol at this "you gotta test drive to have a valid opinion" angle you bazingas are pushing now. like, do you know that not everyone is a simpleton easily impressed by experiencing ev torque for the first time? our judgement is based more on things like this: a colleague of mine had a model 3 ~delivery experience~ a few months ago. after the next rainstorm (it's been a wet winter in norcal) i checked their ride out in the parking lot. predictably, one of the two taillamp assemblies was sopping wet on the inside, because tesla doesn't know how to reliably seal things and more importantly there's all horrendous safety issues, which (unlike seals) aren't a mere matter of poor execution but rather a complete failure of design philosophy. maybe the real engineers at tesla would have made a good product without ol' musky calling the shots, but with him they were doomed. elon: "it is forbidden to use mechanical linkages between door handles and door latches"
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BobHoward posted:lol at this "you gotta test drive to have a valid opinion" angle you bazingas are pushing now. like, do you know that not everyone is a simpleton easily impressed by experiencing ev torque for the first time?
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hey now, the front doors on the model 3 have a mechanical linkage for the interior emergency handles. they'll just probably break the window if you use them.
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Shifty Pony posted:evilweasel can probably speak better to the phenomenon but I've always noticed that the angry tone of a legal document is inversely proportional to how strong the arguments are. i think a lot of litigation docs begin with the angry tone and good editing removes it. here my guess, since these are good lawyers, is that they know what their client wants and this is what he wants. also yeah the law is not on their side so there’s no citations just lots of It Is So
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Shifty Pony posted:that sur reply is a very angry document. i can say that the more they lean on bluster and fist pounding the more its an act and the moment theres scrutiny it all turning into bargaining. its kinda sad and just a waste of everyones time feeding ego H.P. Hovercraft posted:i like the mic dicta hypothesis that the bigger rear end in a top hat tends to lose yup
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:drgitlin is a professional car reviewer wait, they pay him?
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drgitlin posted:It did rain a bit, the car was fine. Even the auto wipers worked. I’m dying to try one on a track at some point because I think there’s actually a really good driver’s car in there. But the one I had was on winter tires and I’m also not going try and find a car’s limit on the public road for obvious reasons, so that’s just supposition. It's supposed to be awful on tracks, because it limits your ability to do the fancy zooms to preserve battery There was an article earlier some time about how it did worse than like a Tahoe or something http://www.thedrive.com/news/5207/this-video-reminds-us-that-the-tesla-model-s-is-an-awful-track-car This isn't the article, but the S could barely finish a lap a few years ago. Tech is probably better, but also the model 3 is a worse car theflyingorc fucked around with this message at 06:15 on Mar 23, 2019 |
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that was an older model s, iirc and it tied with the heaviest car they had tested, the jeep grand cherokee
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infernal machines posted:that was an older model s, iirc and it tied with the heaviest car they had tested, the jeep grand cherokee Yeah, the question is how much the tech has improved VS. the fact that the model 3 isn't as good as the model S
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it does better, because it's possible to disable the thing that keeps you from nuking the battery
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infernal machines posted:it does better, because it's possible to disable the thing that keeps you from nuking the battery Doesn't that mean of you try it, you're really messing the car up? Idk
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 it'll probably shithouse the battery given enough time, so your range would decrease, i don't know that anyone has done significant testing to find out how much. presumably the major thermal throttling is still in place though so you won't be able to push it until they catch fire, except when they do that on their own
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