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Rhyno posted:It was one massive accusation that many people backed up. But I guess he's too connected to suffer for his crimes. In fairness, how many nerdy white comedians capable of hosting a glorified podcast are there? (What's that, "any one of the hosts of the literally thousands of podcasts that are basically the exact same thing"?)
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Bust Rodd posted:Wasn’t the Hardwick stuff just the one accusation from his ex-girlfriend and then some staff left when the AMC and Nerdist investigations concluded that there was nothing to punish? The legal firm AMC hired to investigate him has previously represented the Hearst corporation. Hardwick is married to Lydia Hearst. Draw your own conclusions.
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Skwirl posted:In fairness, how many nerdy white comedians capable of hosting a glorified podcast are there? (What's that, "any one of the hosts of the literally thousands of podcasts that are basically the exact same thing"?) There's scores of them. But he's been in the industry for 20 years, is majorly connected he married into the Hearst family.
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I already knew about it, but it is so insanely weird to me that Chris Hardwick is Patty Hearst's son-in-law.
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King Vidiot posted:I mean, Hardwick is a massive piece of poo poo and a creep but what he did to his ex isn't technically a crime, and it involved a relationship outside of work so it's not that surprising he didn't get barred from the industry over it. Hardwick operated in a similar gray area to Drake, where it's creepy and predatory but he didn't break any laws and even the court of public opinion could give him the benefit of the doubt. yeah, unfortunately a lot of the response was to fixate on the sexual assault line of Chloe's letter which she later removed. I think she intended it more as an indicator of her emotional state rather than accusing him of the legal definition of sexual assault. The subsequent coverage of it fixated on proving if he did an actual rape or not and essentially ignored all the emotional abuse. It felt like a really honest and compelling description of being in an emotionally abuse relationship and its unfortunate that the focus on an ill advised word choice has discredited the rest of it. Obviously not enough to accurately diagnose anything but from listening to the pod for a while it did seem pretty clear that Chris is was fixated on status and power dynamics. I can imagine those manifested pretty negatively in a relationship that was as imbalanced as the one with Chloe and its not surprising that his other girlfriends didn't notice the behaviour because as far as I can remember they were all his peer group or higher in status than he was. I wonder what the podcast numbers are like now, I've poked my head in the subreddit - which has a pinned warning about harassing Chloe on social media - and it seems pretty much dead. That being said it felt petty dead before the accusation. There's just so many better celebrity interview podcasts now that I can't see it being as relevant as it was at the peak.
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King Vidiot posted:I mean, Hardwick is a massive piece of poo poo and a creep but what he did to his ex isn't technically a crime, and it involved a relationship outside of work so it's not that surprising he didn't get barred from the industry over it. Hardwick operated in a similar gray area to Drake, where it's creepy and predatory but he didn't break any laws and even the court of public opinion could give him the benefit of the doubt. Drake has already been caught on camera groping and making out with an underage girl and I'm pretty sure he's been grooming others at best. There's no doubt in my mind that Drake's done something illegal and just hasn't been caught by the cops yet.
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Bust Rodd posted:If we’ve learned anything from R. Kelly it’s that Drake will absolutely get what’s coming to him 30 to 35 years after he prayed on literally countless young women and every single piece of coverage will be playing “God’s Plan” in the background. I mean Drake might molest a white girl. He seems a lot more reckless about it than Kelly.
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It’s just a matter of time for Drake https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goouXtnDLcI
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Ugh. The Drake stuff is gross as gently caress and it's super depressing that all this poo poo recently came out about MJ and R Kelly and still nobody seems to be taking his predatory behavior seriously.
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And also that people think Drake is a good musician. The gently caress is up with that poo poo?
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He'll always be Jimmy Brooks to me. Which makes the tough guy poo poo hilarious, and the creeper poo poo even more depressing.
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Skwirl posted:He'll always be Jimmy Brooks to me. Which makes the tough guy poo poo hilarious, and the creeper poo poo even more depressing. i remember when he first came out and didn't realize who he was and saw a video of him performing and thinking drat jimmy's walking again!
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NiceGuy posted:Ugh. The Drake stuff is gross as gently caress and it's super depressing that all this poo poo recently came out about MJ and R Kelly and still nobody seems to be taking his predatory behavior seriously. Well, nobody except Pusha T.
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I didn't know about Drake's creepy behavior before deciding to click on this thread today.
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So everyone knew Drake was grooming underage girls when it came out he was "friends" with stranger things girl. But it just kind of clicked after watching the MJ doc. Like an older man saying they're totally just friends with like a 12 year old
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Phi230 posted:So everyone knew Drake was grooming underage girls when it came out he was "friends" with stranger things girl. But it just kind of clicked after watching the MJ doc. Like an older man saying they're totally just friends with like a 12 year old Yeah I hate to like... Jump to conclusions and be judgmental, but just generally speaking, if you're an adult with no kids of your own you're pretty goddamn happy when you *don't* have to deal with much younger kids. I mean, it's not like I hate kids or anything but the few times I've had to deal with them as an adult, uh... Well, it made me really glad I didn't become a parent when I was young, as well as that I didn't go into teaching middle school or anything. I'm sure some kids are perfectly sweet, but I'm also pretty sure that, speaking as someone who definitely is *not* a pedophile.. kids are pretty obnoxious and require a great deal of attention as well as patience to be around, and I'm just seriously happy that I don't have any living in my home because it could potentially drive me crazy. But of course on the other hand, I can understand having infinite patience for your own children and *wanting* to devote attention to raising them - that's just basic human biological instinct. It's pretty different when they're not your kids, though. But seriously, that's why I really have always been leery of any male adult who proactively wants to spend time with kids, especially single guys who seek out those jobs. I just ran into way too many perverts like that when I was a kid, it really made me insanely distrustful of anyone who actively chooses as their profession being an authority figure to children. I'm fine with teachers who had their own interests and ambitions and wound up teaching - that's different. I instinctively don't trust men who actively choose to be around children as a vocation, though. I might wind up trusting them if I talk to them, but it's kind of a red mark in my eyes. The worst was summer camp counselors, though. There was like, no vetting for those jobs (at least back in the 80s/90s) and they'd just hire any ol' fella who looked in their 20s and acted genial. Ugh.
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Drake does have a kid though. And the Millie Bobbie Brown thing, while distressing, isn’t as hosed up as the 18 year old he started dating at 16 (hey I’m the most famous singer on Earth and you’re a child, let’s make out) or the 14 year old he was blatantly sexting. Here’s how I think of it. The lowest rung on Drake’s ladder probably makes more in a year than I’ll make in the next ten. He’s untouchable until public opinion becomes amenable, and we’re literally decades away from that. You have to remember that predators who focus on black women will always take longer to catch because... we’ll because the racism/sexism combo is overwhelming.
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kaworu posted:Yeah I hate to like... Jump to conclusions and be judgmental, but just generally speaking, if you're an adult with no kids of your own you're pretty goddamn happy when you *don't* have to deal with much younger kids. Maybe consider just speaking for yourself next time then. Like I get that your opinions are probably based on whatever negative experiences you may have had in the past so I'll refrain from being too judgemental, but the view that men who choose to work or interact with children are inherently untrustworthy is a very bad one. Not least because it places teaching/childcare firmly in the "women's work" category and further absolves men of any responsibility in regards to that. Drake's a creep because he's texting a 14 year old girl about what kinds of boys she likes, along with a bunch of other weird poo poo, not simply because he's choosing to interact with a child without being coerced into it first. Those are wildly different things.
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I was an art teacher for five years before I went into petcare. I’m a grown adult man and I’d way, way rather work with kids and puppies finger painting and playing fetch than selling flatscreens at Best Buy. Adult human beings are garbage.
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Also I don't have the exact numbers here but I'm all but positive that most child molestations are perpetrated by the victim's own family members way more than strangers.
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King Vidiot posted:Also I don't have the exact numbers here but I'm all but positive that most child molestations are perpetrated by the victim's own family members way more than strangers. The vast majority, yeah. It's similar stats to homicides, the overwhelming majority that are investigated and resolved (however thoroughly) turn out to be acquaintance murders. This isn't to say that the 10-20% of stranger murders are insignificant, they're just much more disturbing to the average person. It's like how like 90% of Amber Alerts are noncustodial parents kidnapping their own children.
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Dr. S.O. Feelgood posted:Maybe consider just speaking for yourself next time then. Like I get that your opinions are probably based on whatever negative experiences you may have had in the past so I'll refrain from being too judgemental, but the view that men who choose to work or interact with children are inherently untrustworthy is a very bad one. Not least because it places teaching/childcare firmly in the "women's work" category and further absolves men of any responsibility in regards to that. I don't know who else I'd be speaking for, I thought I made it pretty plain that my distaste for adults who choose to order children around or make them "obedient" for a living is fairly personal, and I'm just fine with standing on my own as disliking the gently caress out of anyone who enjoys ordering children around or thinks that the Public School System in America is an upstanding institution not in need of reform. I'm sure lots of them are lovely people and I always keep an open mind, but that's just me. Obviously I feel very differently about people who just like to work with kids, or teach things like art/music/literature/liberal arts from the point of view of furthering education. Tough to do that in public schools these days since they seem to be focused on teaching children to follow the rules and then teaching them how much trouble they get in depending on which rules they break, and so on. The majority of teachers I knew couldn't have cared less about actually teaching unless their class was being observed by a superior or it was for a standardized test which would reflect on the teacher in question. It's not even that all are pedos, most are just sadists or the type that likes any job where they get to tell people beneath them what to do and get called "sir" all day long. Teaching, sadly, is no longer the sacred trust it once was. Of course, pay no attention to this if you're rich enough to privately school/socialize your child one way or another, or just live in an area heavily gentrified enough that the state is obligated to actually fund the schools properly for fear of bad publicity. Again, exceptions to every rule, and to be fair the good teachers I've met aren't just good, they're practically SAINTS. But they're few and far between. edit: And yes, I constantly quote that stat to other people, that abuse usually occurs in the home because access is by far the most critical and important thing. It's actually a lot worse than just saying "it happens in the home" - most of the time that's a very euphemistic way of saying that a father has groomed and raped his child, usually multiple times. But nobody really likes to think about that, I guess. They always say that the molester was "an unnamed family member" in news stories, like it's the most horrific shameful secret ever. Does more harm than good in my opinion. The person who molested me was a semi-friend of the family who owned a small after-care place for small kids, so yeah, I probably have a personal thing against people who act like caretakers of children, but aren't. That's incidentally the second most common type of offender after family members - babysitters or people who work in child care. kaworu fucked around with this message at 01:13 on Mar 25, 2019 |
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kaworu posted:I don't know who else I'd be speaking for, I thought I made it pretty plain that my distaste for adults who choose to order children around or make them "obedient" for a living is fairly personal, and I'm just fine with standing on my own as disliking the gently caress out of anyone who enjoys ordering children around or thinks that the Public School System in America is an upstanding institution not in need of reform. I'm sure lots of them are lovely people and I always keep an open mind, but that's just me. Ok, well this is not even remotely close to what you originally said. You're free to revise your opinion or whatever, but I think it's pretty understandable I responded to what you literally wrote, instead of assuming you actually meant something completely different. Honestly, I find a lot of your posts in here pretty confusing.
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Part of what disgusts me about Drake is I feel that older celebrities totally could be good influences on younger ones in a mentor type friendship given how often young celebrities go off the rails due to having all the money and none of the experience. Like there's a bunch of former child stars who credit not getting in trouble with having an older celebrity look out for them and help em deal with all the weird and horrible poo poo that comes with fame. And I mean this is probably true for any sort of situation a kid finds themselves in that their age peers or family might not be able to relate to. Then fuckers like Drake make everyone look at any attempt at intergenerational friendship askance.
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Rirse posted:In other shithead news. Since the announcement voice actors Monica Rial (Bulma), Daman Mills (Frieza understudy) and Jason Douglas (Beerus), and guest panelist literature historian Ken have each publicly cancelled their appearances at the convention https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/in...roversy/.144965 quote:Rial previously shared in February an alleged past encounter with Mignogna where she said he would "take a fist full of my hair, pull my head back, and either whisper so closely to my ear that his lips were touching or kiss my cheek/neck" every time he saw Rial. These actions are similar to the actions that fellow voice actress Jamie Marchi accused Mignogna of doing to her. Rial added that she and others have witnessed Mignogna performing the same actions to both colleagues and fans.
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King Vidiot posted:Also I don't have the exact numbers here but I'm all but positive that most child molestations are perpetrated by the victim's own family members way more than strangers. Three quarters are known to the victim, while a third of those are directly related. I looked that up when i got into a very silly argument about transgender people going into bathrooms.
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kaworu posted:Obviously I feel very differently about people who just like to work with kids, or teach things like art/music/literature/liberal arts from the point of view of furthering education. Tough to do that in public schools these days since they seem to be focused on teaching children to follow the rules and then teaching them how much trouble they get in depending on which rules they break, and so on. The majority of teachers I knew couldn't have cared less about actually teaching unless their class was being observed by a superior or it was for a standardized test which would reflect on the teacher in question. It's not even that all are pedos, most are just sadists or the type that likes any job where they get to tell people beneath them what to do and get called "sir" all day long. Teaching, sadly, is no longer the sacred trust it once was. Hey bud, come talk to us in the teacher thread instead of in some random thread where calling you out on your lovely opinions would derail the actual point of the thread: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3563040 We're all on Spring Break anyway and need something to do.
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In what will probably gently caress him sideways, the R. Kelly case has taken a hilarious turn:quote:The Dubai government issued a statement Sunday denying that R. Kelly had booked concerts in the United Arab Emirates city, as his legal team claimed.
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Zogo posted:#MeToo comes to the Southern Poverty Law Center The feeling of dread that came over me upon discovering this revelation has granted me a new understanding of why people choose to cover up the crimes of people in power. gently caress.
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LIVE AMMO ROLEPLAY posted:In terms of MJ I'm concerned that anyone who helped him do this poo poo or helped him cover up will get away with it. This list is probably over a hundred names long. Michael Jackson made so much money every day that everyone in his orbit was loving crazy loaded and as long as MJ was happy the gravy train kept pulling into the station.
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Sodomy Hussein posted:I mean, we're probably not going to know what this one was about for a couple of days, but my first guess is that the Chicago PD hosed up the case beyond the point that it could be prosecuted with any chance of a guilty verdict or not embarrassing the PD. Something something steady stream of leaks about the investigation. In a world... Where a police department is so racist that it fucks up a case because its members can't stop being racist and talking to the media... One man... Gets away $10,000 lighter and with the presumption of innocence Chicago PD: The Movie
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