Clerical Terrors posted:The fallacy in Thompson's argument wasn't that media does not influence people, it's that he tended to claim it worked almost like brainwashing, that kids playing violent video games would almost immediately reproduce the violence they saw by virtue of having seen it. This is wrong mostly in how oversimplified and presumptive it is. Watching The Big Bang Theory probably won't make you talk like Sheldon and carry a soundboard with a laugh-track anywhere, but it does lodge ideas in your head. And if those ideas only ever get reinforced and never contradicted they can influence people's reasoning in unnoticed ways. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqxEFNFOVTw Innuendo Studio has a great video about what research has actually shown on this topic. Briefly, media doesn't directly affect your personality, but it does affect people view of the world. Violent media don't make you violent, but they can convince you that violence is more widespread and accepted than it really it is. People react to such ideas in different ways. Violent people may be more likely to resort to violence, because they think people won't care, whereas non-violent people might decide to stay home out of fear of widespread violence. Similarly, sexist media won't turn you sexist, but it might lead you to believe that sexism is more mainstream and accepted than it really is, making you less likely to call out your friends for sexist attitudes.
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nine-gear crow posted:Still awfully sad to see his once booming and attention grabbing voice rendered so soft and quiet, but he seems to be recovering quite well from the stroke. I never heard he had a stroke, was this recent?
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Mar 25, 2019 10:46
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Dabir posted:I never heard he had a stroke, was this recent? Is 2012 still considered "recent"? It paralyzed him from the waist down and took away his ability to speak for a good long while. He's recovered considerably since the last time I saw video of him, but apparently he's still confined to a wheelchair. You can really hear how bad it hosed him up in Over the Garden Wall, which was done in 2014.
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Mar 25, 2019 10:55
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When will they finally make an Isekai starring Youtubers?
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Mar 25, 2019 11:11
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For all of the 3 people that were holding their breath, Night Mind's series on House of Leaves is just real fuckin' bad. The first video worked in clips from a channel that was obviously not real, of someone who claimed to be a character from one of the books, and that sucked. But I was like "eh as long as there's some analysis, I'll stick with it". The second video is out and I cannot even finish it. He has always had a problem with putting long unedited clips from the original material into his own videos. A prime example of this is in his video on This House Has People In It. To illustrate one of his theories about the work, he shows a video of some guy who thinks eating horse apples cures cancer (or something). Which is fine, but he plays like the entire 5 minute clip when it could have been a 15 second summary. It causes his videos to be bloated and annoying to sit through if you have already watched the source material. Since he's covering a book and not a video series this time, I guess I figured that he wouldn't be able to do that. Silly me, I guess I should have expected him to just read out loud large sections of the book verbatim. And not only read them out, but read them out in a "dramatic" tone of voice which feels like high-school quality acting. I shouldn't have expected more, I guess, I was just looking forward to someone doing a House of Leaves analysis. Maybe Nightmare Masterclass will do one someday.
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Mar 25, 2019 13:06
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Cicadalek posted:Since he's covering a book and not a video series this time, I guess I figured that he wouldn't be able to do that. Silly me, I guess I should have expected him to just read out loud large sections of the book verbatim. And not only read them out, but read them out in a "dramatic" tone of voice which feels like high-school quality acting. Oof. That's a book that works better visually than in audio in the first place, even.
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Mar 25, 2019 14:29
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Clerical Terrors posted:When will they finally make an Isekai starring Youtubers? I Entered a Parallel World Where Minorities Are Enslaved By My Ideal Utopian Ethnostate And I Couldn't Be Happier!
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Mar 25, 2019 14:39
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corn in the bible posted:an isekai where they just chill and hang out drinking with fantasy creatures at a bar in the fantasy reincarnation land There's at least two of those shows.
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Mar 25, 2019 14:54
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Mar 25, 2019 14:56
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Darth Walrus posted:There's at least two of those shows. I know Restaurant to Another World is one, but I can't think of the other off the top of my head.
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Mar 25, 2019 15:09
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jim doing another puff piece smh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foeYsvbOxJ0
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Mar 25, 2019 15:44
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Junpei Hyde posted:jim doing another puff piece smh "HOW CAN YOU SAY THIS AND HAVE A SCREW STEAM VIDEO ANSWER ME THAT JIM STERLING!"
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Mar 25, 2019 15:54
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s77a8uxhVCw&t=2s Some jerk with a camera does a One Movie Later on Wonder Park.
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Mar 25, 2019 15:54
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Sucks about Nick's new House of Leaves videos but hey it got me to read the book finally. When I'm done I'm sure I'll get to the videos and find that they're not so bad
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Mar 25, 2019 17:08
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I started the book too. A found-footage novel seems like a weird choice, but I'm into it.
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Mar 25, 2019 17:11
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Yeah I'm just about finished with the book and it's pretty good overall, if the videos are bad at least they got me to read a book.
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Mar 25, 2019 17:45
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Just read the book. None of these jack offs do it justice. In fact if I picked it up after having one of these guys telling me "their thoughts" it would have been a substantially worse read.
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Mar 25, 2019 17:46
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I don't get why they pretend House of Leaves is some kind of monolith of meaning. it's good but it's definitely not complicated. I blame high school English
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Mar 25, 2019 17:58
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I think it's an impressive work. People are definitely hyperbolic about it, but the idea of a self contained ARG in book form is a cool concept and I think the execution was good. It leaves a lot of room for interpretation, which is why I hope more people pick up on it online.
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Mar 25, 2019 18:02
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It seems like a novel that really hits that boundary between "neat plot mechanics explainer" and "literary analysis" as far as what is needed to develop a satisfactory reading, and I feel like a lot of spooky youtube channels are on the wrong side of that divide.
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Mar 25, 2019 18:03
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This book sounds interesting. Is this the book you guys are talking about?
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Mar 25, 2019 18:16
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nine-gear crow posted:Still awfully sad to see his once booming and attention grabbing voice rendered so soft and quiet, but he seems to be recovering quite well from the stroke. Tim Curry's voice has gone to the one place that hasn't been tainted by capitalism. Junpei Hyde posted:jim doing another puff piece smh Jim is a complete and utter hack. I'm talking about him saying Steam community, reviews and curators is in any way a positive thing.
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Mar 25, 2019 18:55
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Ryuga Death posted:This book sounds interesting. Is this the book you guys are talking about? Yes
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Mar 25, 2019 18:56
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Leal posted:Tim Curry's voice has gone to the one place that hasn't been tainted by capitalism. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKdQjqyEhuY
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Mar 25, 2019 19:04
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corn in the bible posted:I don't get why they pretend House of Leaves is some kind of monolith of meaning. it's good but it's definitely not complicated. I blame high school English I mean that's kind of Night Mind's whole schtick: taking stuff he likes and declaring it to be amazing works of Art.
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Mar 25, 2019 19:42
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GATE is one of those lovely web novels that has been readapted several, several times and is still very weird, racist, and hosed up even though it has been toned DOWN in every iteration The author is a hardcore JSDF booster and like most is a weirdo hyper-nationalist and racist. Iirc also a war crime denier but I can't remember where that came up exactly so I no longer have a way to offer up hard proof on that. Overlord is overall less problematic (still having several elements that are) and has an author who is just kind of a perverted dude who is huge into DnD instead of a right wing psycho but hoo boy some of the original material before it was a light novel/anime
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Mar 25, 2019 20:12
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Nothing is safe 
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Mar 25, 2019 20:17
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Leal posted:
I'm confused, didn't you earlier complain he defended the Epic Store too much? Now he makes a video trashing the Epic Store and suddenly he defends Steam too much? Do you just not like online-stores in general, or are you just insane? Cicadalek posted:For all of the 3 people that were holding their breath, Night Mind's series on House of Leaves is just real fuckin' bad. The first video worked in clips from a channel that was obviously not real, of someone who claimed to be a character from one of the books, and that sucked. But I was like "eh as long as there's some analysis, I'll stick with it". Thank god, I thought I was the only one who got bored into submission by Nigh Mind's second video. And I say this as someone who loved the book.
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Libluini posted:I'm confused, didn't you earlier complain he defended the Epic Store too much? Now he makes a video trashing the Epic Store and suddenly he defends Steam too much? Do you just not like online-stores in general, or are you just insane? Nope, that person wasn't me.
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Mar 25, 2019 20:42
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Just read Pale Fire, it's shorter and funnier
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Sometimes I wonder if Nick getting caught up in all these little details is in character. An otherworldly being would have these peculiar curiosities.
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Mar 25, 2019 21:14
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:It seems like a novel that really hits that boundary between "neat plot mechanics explainer" and "literary analysis" as far as what is needed to develop a satisfactory reading, and I feel like a lot of spooky youtube channels are on the wrong side of that divide. The best comparison I have ever heard is that House of Leaves is basically just the Mars Volta A big flaming stink fucked around with this message at 00:12 on Mar 26, 2019 |
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Mar 25, 2019 21:15
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Leal posted:Nope, that person wasn't me. Well, poo poo. I guess I owe you an apology. I was really, really sure that was you, but I probably got confused by a similar looking avatar or something.
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Mar 25, 2019 21:31
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The curse of the anime avatar, also probably my shitposting history.
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Mar 25, 2019 21:31
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Junpei Hyde posted:jim doing another puff piece smh Good it's about time e: jim no don't watch puppet master don't do that to yourself ee: I think another thing he fails to mention is that if they really want to play the game they'll just pirate it. It takes more effort to set up an epic account than it does to boot into whatever tracker you have and grab a copy of metro or outer worlds or w/e, and Epic has said they're covering lost sales so it's like you're not even pirating at all! Grapplejack fucked around with this message at 22:08 on Mar 25, 2019 |
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Terrible Opinions posted:Pants Donkey just described the average American and British sitcom from at least the mid 80s until the present. TheMaestroso posted:I like the new guy - he's really funny! Cicadalek posted:For all of the 3 people that were holding their breath, Night Mind's series on House of Leaves is just real fuckin' bad. The first video worked in clips from a channel that was obviously not real, of someone who claimed to be a character from one of the books, and that sucked. But I was like "eh as long as there's some analysis, I'll stick with it".
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Clerical Terrors posted:When will they finally make an Isekai starring Youtubers? They already made an anime about virtual youtubers, so soon, probs
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Mar 26, 2019 00:15
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I thought you tubers went on to star in Disney kid shoes
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Hasn’t every Youtuber after Fred hosed up their Disney deal by being huge dumbasses?
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an isekai about a guy reincarnating into a fantasy world but he still ends up with a desk job there
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