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hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008


This is a very different one though. The airline boarded the flight with people bound for one city and then told the crew to go to a different city.

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Dr_Strangelove
Dec 16, 2003

Mein Fuhrer! THEY WON!

Craptacular posted:

It's not even a caret. It's a greater-than sign. This is a caret: ^

Good point...

I IS A TECH RITER

OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009
They clearly forgot the opening character of an HTML tag.

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

hobbesmaster posted:

This is a very different one though. The airline boarded the flight with people bound for one city and then told the crew to go to a different city.

I wonder where the bags went.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

MrYenko posted:

I wonder where the bags went.

This is actually a good question because you could guess the fuckup is that the crew thought they were assigned flight A, but the passengers for flight B were boarded. This leads to a lot of other questions like "what happened to flight B's aircraft and crew?" and "what about flight A's passengers"

ok, heres BA3271 which is 7:30ish am flight LCY-DUS: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/BAW3271/history/20190325/0740Z/EGLC/EGPH
Theres a 7am LCY-EDI: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/BAW8700/history/20190325/0700Z/EGLC/EGPH
And a 9am LCY-EDI: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/BAW8704/history/20190325/0900Z/EGLC/EGPH

They're not even the same type - E-170 vs E-190 so idk.

hobbesmaster fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Mar 25, 2019

Jealous Cow
Apr 4, 2002

by Fluffdaddy

hobbesmaster posted:

This is actually a good question because you could guess the fuckup is that the crew thought they were assigned flight A, but the passengers for flight B were boarded. This leads to a lot of other questions like "what happened to flight B's aircraft and crew?" and "what about flight A's passengers"

ok, heres BA3271 which is 7:30ish am flight LCY-DUS: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/BAW3271/history/20190325/0740Z/EGLC/EGPH
Theres a 7am LCY-EDI: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/BAW8700/history/20190325/0700Z/EGLC/EGPH
And a 9am LCY-EDI: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/BAW8704/history/20190325/0900Z/EGLC/EGPH

They're not even the same type - E-170 vs E-190 so idk.



“Diverted” :lol:

marumaru
May 20, 2013



Jealous Cow posted:



“Diverted” :lol:

I mean, they probably don't have a "they hosed up" message.

PhotoKirk
Jul 2, 2007

insert witty text here

MrYenko posted:

I wonder where the bags went.

Doesn't matter if it's a Delta flight. I think Doug Henning trains their baggage handlers.

Elviscat
Jan 1, 2008

Well don't you know I'm caught in a trap?

I finally made it to Udvar-Hazy, it's insanely overwhelming. Just walking on the promenade and seeing two of the fastest, highest-flying vehicles ever made...

https://i.imgur.com/Sc61Ku9.jpg

Then there's something for everyone:
Biggest engine ever made




Big planes



Small planes



Space planes



Leaky planes





Rocket-assisted suicide planes



Really efficient rotary-wing suicide planes



Big wastes of time and money.





Bullet Missile with Butterfly Wooden wings.



Something for LTA travel "enthusiasts"

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


slidebite posted:

So, logistically how does this grounding work for airlines that need the airframes? It sounds like it's not an insignificant amount of the fleet for some airlines. Are they recommissioning old stored aircraft? Lease? Or do airlines have that many frames kicking around that it's not a big deal?

One of the reasons I believe (personal opinion) TC announced their ban a bit delayed was to give AC and WestJet a chance to get their maxes back to Canada. There were still a few leftovers, but the ban was for passenger carriage, repositioning ferries were still done after to get them to useful parking spots. AC is wet leasing Air Transat for a few domestic routes, pulled a couple of e190s out of the desert, and delayed sending a few back to the lessor. Slight silver lining is it's still shoulder season (barring March break), so the widebody fleet has taken had up a lot of the slack. Nearly all the flex is gone out of the schedule now though, and things that can be put off is being put off. I think they delayed some of the WiFi mods. If it runs into summer, it's going to be a bigger problem.

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009


It takes balls to add a space shuttle joke in your prototype helicopter presentation :wow:

vessbot
Jun 17, 2005
I don't like you because you're dangerous

Elviscat posted:

I finally made it to Udvar-Hazy, it's insanely overwhelming.

XR-7755 gently caress yeah :black101:

FBS
Apr 27, 2015

The real fun of living wisely is that you get to be smug about it.

Elviscat posted:

Bullet Missile with Butterfly Wooden wings.



:stare: what the hell is that?

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




FBS posted:

:stare: what the hell is that?

Rheintochter R1 missile apparently?


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rheintochter

Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet


That article has a link to something even weirder.

loving why?

Safety Dance
Sep 10, 2007

Five degrees to starboard!

The design specification is just the word Schnell! circled in red and underlined four or five times.

Luneshot
Mar 10, 2014

Ahead of the curve when it comes to designing sounding rockets, I guess.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

Blue Footed Booby posted:

That article has a link to something even weirder.

loving why?

quote:

The accuracy of the Rheinbote was found impossible to calculate after tests, because the craters proved too small to find.
:lol:

Jealous Cow
Apr 4, 2002

by Fluffdaddy
AA has a system wide outage right now. They boarded us without the computer systems by just asking what our seat was and writing it down. No name, just the seat we said.

Now they are trying trying to figure out what to do. They said they may need to reboard us, and for some reason the captain went on and on about not being able to complete W&B. He sounds super irritated.

AzureSkys
Apr 27, 2003

My work travel site through Concur is having outage issues, too, all morning. Dunno if it's related but I'd really like to book my return flight home sooner than later if delays from other systems start snowballing.

Jealous Cow
Apr 4, 2002

by Fluffdaddy
We’re in the air now and AA’s flight status notifications appear to be working.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
Neat

B.C. seaplane company’s plan for electric fleet is set for take off

This company has been around and successful for ages, and it’s pretty interesting to see them going this way instead of having a new company start up to try out the technology first (and probably fail). Will be interesting to hear what they sound like, I hear their planes overhead pretty frequently.

fknlo
Jul 6, 2009


Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/Fox35News/status/1110635135970541568

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Article says it's an engine issue which is completely unrelated to the current problem, but drat if that isn't bad optics for Boeing.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

bull3964 posted:

Article says it's an engine issue which is completely unrelated to the current problem, but drat if that isn't bad optics for Boeing.

Evidently the engines are the cause of the whole issue in the first place: https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/3/21/1843980/-Update-on-the-737-MAX

So it might *not* be unrelated.

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

quote:

In general, I don’t like the idea of having to use software to fix a problem with the basic design of the aircraft. However, that’s the world we live in.

No it loving isn't, colloquially we call that a 'death trap'.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


The issue is the placement of the engines in the design causing the pitch up attitude, not an actual issue with the operation of the engines.

This Southwest flight had engine performance issues, not related in any way.

Jealous Cow
Apr 4, 2002

by Fluffdaddy

BIG HEADLINE posted:

Evidently the engines are the cause of the whole issue in the first place: https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/3/21/1843980/-Update-on-the-737-MAX

So it might *not* be unrelated.

Their proposed fix does not inspire confidence.

“It’ll still do the bad thing, just not as much.”

tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe

tactlessbastard posted:

How are they going to get them all the way there instead of cratering in on climbout, smart guy??

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Talk about serendipity, I was just on Flickr, going through the interesting tags and this comes up:

hellotoothpaste
Dec 21, 2006

I dare you to call it a perm again..

bull3964 posted:

The issue is the placement of the engines in the design causing the pitch up attitude, not an actual issue with the operation of the engines.

This Southwest flight had engine performance issues, not related in any way.

That being said.. would love to hear about exactly what this unrelated problem was.

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

Megillah Gorilla posted:

Talk about serendipity, I was just on Flickr, going through the interesting tags and this comes up:



One wonders if the quite silly amount of control surfaces on that thing is a result of the first couple of tests.

"Verdammt, that one didn't even hit the same lebensraum as the target. Try putting another pair of fins on it..."

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

I think it had to do with the radio controlled guidance system or something. Though why they needed that many fins for it uhhhhh I’m going to go with “Hitler”

Captain Postal
Sep 16, 2007
4 fins for 1st stage, 6 fins for 2nd stage, 4 canards for guidance

e:

'' posted:

The sustainer motor, located ahead of the 136 kg (300 lb) warhead (rather than behind, as is more usual) exhausted through six venturis between the first stage (I think they mean second stage) fins.

Huh? The warhead is at the back of the thing?

Captain Postal fucked around with this message at 13:38 on Mar 27, 2019

e.pilot
Nov 20, 2011

sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit

Ola posted:

One wonders if the quite silly amount of control surfaces on that thing is a result of the first couple of tests.

"Verdammt, that one didn't even hit the same lebensraum as the target. Try putting another pair of fins on it..."

That’s how I play Kerbal. :colbert:

Jealous Cow
Apr 4, 2002

by Fluffdaddy
https://twitter.com/flightradar24/status/1111182250647932928

https://twitter.com/cnnbrk/status/1111250102105067522

Their Twitter support account abruptly stopped responding 8 hours ago.

When they say ceased operations, they really mean it.

Elviscat
Jan 1, 2008

Well don't you know I'm caught in a trap?

That's a real mic drop from WOW, should we wind down operations? Nah, gently caress it we're out

Elviscat fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Mar 28, 2019

Jealous Cow
Apr 4, 2002

by Fluffdaddy
Both Wow and Norwegian started transatlantic service from CLE back in 2017. Wow ended their service last fall and Norwegian is delaying starting their Summer service this year.

CLE used to be a Continental hub and had directs to Europe, there’s even an entirely unused international terminal that was completed right when UA bought Continental. Really disappointing that we aren’t seeing more long skinny routes from CLE.

buttcrackmenace
Nov 14, 2007

see its right there in the manual where it says
Grimey Drawer
my view this morning



zoom for :stare:

"tropical environment," sure, but just how long do engine cowling screws have to remain untouched in order to appear so fuckin rusty

buttcrackmenace fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Mar 28, 2019

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Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Jealous Cow posted:

https://twitter.com/flightradar24/status/1111182250647932928

https://twitter.com/cnnbrk/status/1111250102105067522

Their Twitter support account abruptly stopped responding 8 hours ago.

When they say ceased operations, they really mean it.

:wow:

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