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Ghost Leviathan posted:I'd say the show loved to get really weird about Troi's vagina but then again I think the candle gently caress ghost episode was Crusher? When it comes to it TNG is really loving poo poo about women. Of course there are worse shows for being sexist but TNG is definitely all in with it.
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"What if a character got impregnated by an alien who didn't realize it was such a big deal" seems like a decent enough sci-fi plot, but somehow it never really works.
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Mar 25, 2019 13:03
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Sir Lemming posted:”What if a character got impregnated by an alien who didn't realize it was such a big deal" seems like a decent enough sci-fi plot, but somehow it never really works. Let me tell you about a little comic called Avengers #200...
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Mar 25, 2019 13:07
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I'd say the show loved to get really weird about Troi's vagina but then again I think the candle gently caress ghost episode was Crusher? Crusher gets treated a bit better most of the time. Apart from the candle gently caress ghost episode obviously. Troi was always in dubious situations, being mind raped, impregnated against her will, stripped naked by ferengi. The only Troi episode that isn't about that sort of thing or her mother is the Romulan one.
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Mar 25, 2019 13:43
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marktheando posted:Crusher gets treated a bit better most of the time. Apart from the candle gently caress ghost episode obviously. What about the one with the ghost making people kill themselves and she thinks Worf is cheating on her and laughing about it
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Mar 25, 2019 13:46
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I think it’s more that Crusher gets less to do than Troi so they don’t have as much time to do dumb poo poo with her. Like, how many Crusher episodes can you think of that aren’t rape ghost or the one where everyone else disappears?
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Mar 25, 2019 13:47
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marktheando posted:Troi was always in dubious situations, being mind raped, impregnated against her will, stripped naked by ferengi. The only Troi episode that isn't about that sort of thing or her mother is the Romulan one. I mean, Troi's bodily autonomy is absolutely violated as she's kidnapped and surgically altered against her will.
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Mar 25, 2019 13:51
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Troi should have been the emotional denouement for each character that went through a situation in the episode. Do all the bravado and important decision making up front, then the last fifteen minutes is LaForge sobbing with his VISOR off, saying "I mean I thought I was gonna die when that microfracture formed in the antimatter chamber's deuterium casing, and all I could think was how I've never made love!"
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:I mean, Troi's bodily autonomy is absolutely violated as she's kidnapped and surgically altered against her will. True. Still the least creepy Troi episode.
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Mar 25, 2019 13:53
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skasion posted:I think it’s more that Crusher gets less to do than Troi so they don’t have as much time to do dumb poo poo with her. Like, how many Crusher episodes can you think of that aren’t rape ghost or the one where everyone else disappears? The terrorists with alternate transporter rec that's dangerous, and the one where she autopsies a ferengi
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Mar 25, 2019 13:55
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At least eventually things were made a little bit even when Trip got pregnant.
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Mar 25, 2019 14:03
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The main thing I remember from that episode is one scene where Trip's in engineering, and he starts demanding they do something about the elevator there, because if you put your hand in the wrong place when it's moving, it'll crush it. This is played for laughs, because LOL PREGNANCY HORMONES MAKE YOU GO CRAZY! And I assume once he's back to normal, they never do anything about the elevator or any of the other safety issues he points out.
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Mar 25, 2019 14:27
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I mainly remember the whole bridge crew openly laughing in Trip's face for being impregnated without his knowledge or consent.
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Mar 25, 2019 14:29
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We're rewatching TNG, and just hit the episode where they rescue a bunch of cryogenically frozen old men from the present. At one point one of them makes a comment about Crusher and smacks her rear end on his way out, and her reaction is so much more  when you know she was probably dealing with that off-set, too
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Mar 25, 2019 14:34
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marktheando posted:I mainly remember the whole bridge crew openly laughing in Trip's face for being impregnated without his knowledge or consent. Peak Rick Berman.
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Snow Cone Capone posted:We're rewatching TNG, and just hit the episode where they rescue a bunch of cryogenically frozen old men from the present. At one point one of them makes a comment about Crusher and smacks her rear end on his way out, and her reaction is so much more gently caress previous comment applies
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:The terrorists with alternate transporter rec that's dangerous, and the one where she autopsies a ferengi Autopsies a Ferengi, pilots an experimental shuttle in to a star's corona, and then stone-cold shoots an alien murderer several times because of her unwavering surgical precision  Also gets cleared for violating medical ethics because she solved said murder despite leaving no evidence. EDIT: Also there's that time in "Conspiracy" where she tells Picard that he must set his phaser on kill as stun has no effect on the alien parasite hosts, and he's just like "One does not beam down to Starfleet Headquarters armed"  . Dr. Crusher just wants to practice medicine and blast fools all day.
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Mar 25, 2019 15:06
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Crusher's grandma: "I was just reading a particularly emo chapter in my granddaughter's Livejournal…"
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Mar 25, 2019 15:44
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:The terrorists with alternate transporter rec that's dangerous, and the one where she autopsies a ferengi Participates in the failed raid to find biological weapons that ends up getting Picard captured, mentors the human who was born to Q parents, falls in love with a Trill.
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Mar 25, 2019 16:52
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Huh. I always thought of her as Space Mom but she does kick a lot of asses.
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Mar 25, 2019 17:19
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I'm surprised there wasn't at least one episode where they brought back Dr.Pulaski after her Season 2 stint.
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Mar 25, 2019 17:28
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Pixeltendo posted:I'm surprised there wasn't at least one episode where they brought back Dr.Pulaski after her Season 2 stint. It really felt like the episode where Worf breaks his back, they could have made that doctor Pulaski instead of a new character.
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Pixeltendo posted:I'm surprised there wasn't at least one episode where they brought back Dr.Pulaski after her Season 2 stint. I don’t think Diana Muldaur and the cast got along
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Epicurius posted:Participates in the failed raid to find biological weapons that ends up getting Picard captured, mentors the human who was born to Q parents, falls in love with a Trill. Has to take command of the Enterprise when the entire main cast is captured by Lore; kicks Borg rear end with the help of the night shift.
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Mar 25, 2019 17:41
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Yeah, that's when she uses the 'fly a shuttle into the sun's corona' tech from her previous episode to fly the entire Enterprise into the sun. Later Trio tries to one up her by flying half the Enterprise into a planet.
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Mar 25, 2019 23:29
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All the best Crusher bits have her being a space detective
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Mar 25, 2019 23:33
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cheetah7071 posted:All the best Crusher bits have her being a space detective Crusher should have been Chief Engineer and Geordi should have been CMO Crusher gets to actually do stuff and Geordi gets to be goofy and jovial instead of constantly stressed. There, I just fixed both characters.
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Sir Lemming posted:"What if a character got impregnated by an alien who didn't realize it was such a big deal" seems like a decent enough sci-fi plot, but somehow it never really works. I thought it worked okay for Alien.
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Taear posted:I've just re-watched The Child. It's a script recycled from The Original Series - they were going to bring the show back and that script was written for it, they used it because there was a writer's strike. It has that loving weird scene where Troi reveals her magic space pregnancy to the crew and it's presented in the coldest, most unemotional way imaginable, as if they're discussing loving warp nacelles or something. I always laugh at Riker virtually yelling in her face "BUT WHO'S THE FATHER??" And then later you hear Worf chipping in with "Obviously, the pregnancy MUST be terminated!" It's just unbelievable, the whole episode really.
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Mar 26, 2019 00:33
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Troi is high up there on worst-written characters in any show ever and possibly #1 for women characters. Galaxy Quest, which is mostly a takedown of TOS, devotes space to make fun of how terrible Troi and Wesley are.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Crusher should have been Chief Engineer and Geordi should have been CMO That would honestly have worked perfectly. From a casting perspective though I assume it couldn't have since Geordi didn't start off as chief engineer so it couldn't have been a simple swap.
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Senor Tron posted:That would honestly have worked perfectly. From a casting perspective though I assume it couldn't have since Geordi didn't start off as chief engineer so it couldn't have been a simple swap. "Get this...he's the Helmsman...and he's BLIND!! " 
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Brawnfire posted:Troi should have been the emotional denouement for each character that went through a situation in the episode. Do all the bravado and important decision making up front, then the last fifteen minutes is LaForge sobbing with his VISOR off, saying "I mean I thought I was gonna die when that microfracture formed in the antimatter chamber's deuterium casing, and all I could think was how I've never made love!" The episode where Geordi was brainwashed by the Romulans had her helping him remember it at the end and it was one of the better actual uses of Troi.
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MikeJF posted:The episode where Geordi was brainwashed by the Romulans had her helping him remember it at the end and it was one of the better actual uses of Troi. THERE... ARE... FOUR... ROMULAN CONSPIRATORS!!
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Mar 26, 2019 01:27
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Just finished the Enterprise episode Chosen Realm, fantastic ending. Archer is stone cold.
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I don't hate it.
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Mar 26, 2019 03:08
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Tonight's episode of the Next Generation is Remember Me, this episode is about how Dr. Beverely Crusher is the sole survivor of the U.S.S. Enterprise after Thanos snaps his fingers with the infinity gauntlet.
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Mar 26, 2019 03:10
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That’s not a terrible thing.
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I like it but Kirk should have a special one that's a greener shade, with a wraparound construction and a sideways insignia.
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