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Frond
Mar 12, 2018

Feels Villeneuve posted:

Paul Ricard was designed in the 1960s and the only way it's layout is "modern" is that it has a really long straight, which has the decency to end in a really fast challenging corner and not a hairpin like most other recent tracks.

It’s a proper old-style power circuit. Which I will always go to bat for. This is also why I love RA, Mosport (my home track, I’ve driven it several times) and Watkins Glen.

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Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.
Dijon is my favorite French track tbh, I love extremely fast but short tracks like that. Magny Cours would be last except for how bad Le Mans Bugatti is

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

Frond posted:

Ah yes, Suzuka and Interlagos are exactly the same.

neither of those are what I meant by "modern" f1 circuits. also yes I know paul ricard originally opened in 1770 or whatever but that doesnt change that it is absolutely a modern F1 track to me. its got big lovely runoffs and boring rear end flatness and is way too smooth and wide and is utterly soulless and seems like it was designed by a robot trying to add "a little bit of everything".

i straight up would rather watch a race at Barber any day. gently caress, I would rather watch a race at Lime Rock or Portland.

Frond
Mar 12, 2018
Dijon is super underrated. Also it’s the last track to hold a Swiss GP IIRC.


Old Kyalami also kicked a lot of rear end.

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.
Unfortunately a lot of the runoff stuff is for the benefit of motorcycle racers since they don't really like falling into gravel and breaking their necks because they keep bouncing in the air at 150mph.

The solution is to ban MotoGP and Spanish twinks.

Frond
Mar 12, 2018
Paul Ricard is flat because it was built in the middle of sand dunes in southern France.

kidcoelacanth
Sep 23, 2009

race f1 at martinsville

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

Frond posted:

So, essentially Paul Ricard is bad because it is in France where FIA is based, has weird runoff, and F1 races on it. Thanks everyone.

speaking of france maybe you should go back there and stop posting

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.
re: Buenos, people always bring up the O-Ring or Fuji as butchered race circuits but for some reason Buenos Aires never gets mentioned, and I don't know why, because my gently caress


wicka
Jun 28, 2007


"Better than Magny Cours" is perhaps the lowest possible bar

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

I hope IndyCar does go to Argentina like is rumored and i hope its just a total shitshow so we can reminisce about it in a few years

Frond
Mar 12, 2018
I remember the ‘80 Argentine GP where the ground effect F1 cars carved huge ruts in the pavement.

Frond
Mar 12, 2018

Cygni posted:

I hope IndyCar does go to Argentina like is rumored and i hope its just a total shitshow so we can reminisce about it in a few years

Indycar can put on shows even on crappy circuits.

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.
tbh the worst flat F1 circuit ever was Rio, it's one of those circuits where I can watch an entire race and not be able to discern the track layout except it was raced in the 80s because of how insanely dangerous the old Interlagos layout was

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.

Frond posted:

Indycar can put on shows even on crappy circuits.

is that badass Argentine circuit built on a mountain that FIA GT used for like a year still open

Frond
Mar 12, 2018

Feels Villeneuve posted:

tbh the worst flat F1 circuit ever was Rio, it's one of those circuits where I can watch an entire race and not be able to discern the track layout except it was raced in the 80s because of how insanely dangerous the old Interlagos layout was

It’s an overblown Super Mario Kart track. Like I’m not kidding it’s the same as the SNES Mario Raceway. It was a horrendously boring piece of poo poo.

Frond
Mar 12, 2018
The weird oval they made was interesting in a way. I mean it was still Mickey Mouse but interesting.

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.

Frond posted:

The weird oval they made was interesting in a way. I mean it was still Mickey Mouse but interesting.

Rio 1996 for CART was a really good race. Actually I think all the Rio races CART went to were good, I always liked when CART went to an oval that actually required the use of the brake pedal. The main problem was that the really tight radius meant that you'd hit the wall at a really bad angle if you crashed, which Mark Blundell found out.

Frond
Mar 12, 2018
What happened with NOLA exactly?

Frond
Mar 12, 2018
Yeah Ribiero winning in the Tasman was good poo poo. I wonder why he left racing.

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

Frond posted:

What happened with NOLA exactly?

It flooded really bad the one time they went there, turns out Lousiana is low lying.

edit speaking of Mickey Mouse f1 should race WDW

Frond
Mar 12, 2018
IIRC didn’t Dracone smoke one of the pit crew and Coletti spin going on a straight line? Good times.

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.
Also for dead Indycar circuits I really miss Sao Paulo. It had good racing even though it was a pretty dead atmosphere as far as a street race went.

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



gently caress road tracks indycar needs to go back to fontana. the 2013 race there was the greatest automobile race in history.

hunnert car pileup
Oct 28, 2007

the first world was a mistake

Feels Villeneuve posted:

The main problem was that the really tight radius meant that you'd hit the wall at a really bad angle if you crashed, which Mark Blundell found out.

God that was a nasty hit. IIRC he even said he was aiming to torpedo his own teammate to avoid the wall.

Ordinaire
Sep 1, 2008

Forks in the road we're not.
The other thing that killed NOLA was fuckery between the track owners and the promoter that got to the point where they were both suing each other.

mactheknife
Jul 20, 2004

THE JOLLY CANDY-LIKE BUTTON
The guy who owns NOLA fuckin sucks, I was happy to see a race coming to my area but he doesn't deserve it frankly

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Feels Villeneuve posted:

Also the 1995 layout of Buenos Aries is literally the worst F1 circuit of all time, except for the morbid curiosity of racing F1 on a circuit that would still have been a bit too twisty for touring cars.

Feels Villeneuve posted:

tbh the worst flat F1 circuit ever was Rio, it's one of those circuits where I can watch an entire race and not be able to discern the track layout except it was raced in the 80s because of how insanely dangerous the old Interlagos layout was

Bold statements for a timeline that includes the Phoenix street circuit.

Frond
Mar 12, 2018
Phoenix doesn’t really count, being a temp course. However it did put on some very entertaining races.

CactusWeasle
Aug 1, 2006
It's not a party until the bomb squad says it is

Peanut President posted:

It flooded really bad the one time they went there, turns out Lousiana is low lying.

edit speaking of Mickey Mouse f1 should race WDW

The Disney world track has been bulldozed. Shame, because it was an actual, legit, interesting little track

MazeOfTzeentch
May 2, 2009

rip miso beno
i wanna see indycars on the 1 mile flat oval at autodromo hermanos rodriguez

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

CactusWeasle posted:

The Disney world track has been bulldozed. Shame, because it was an actual, legit, interesting little track

Yeah I figured it would be. No racing/Need more parking/that guy getting killed kind of seals it.

Pablo Bluth
Sep 7, 2007

I've made a huge mistake.

CactusWeasle posted:

The Disney world track has been bulldozed. Shame, because it was an actual, legit, interesting little track
Rockingham, the UK one, closed last year.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F3r6-ELiSy0

WindyMan
Mar 21, 2002

Respect the power of the wind

CactusWeasle posted:

The Disney world track has been bulldozed. Shame, because it was an actual, legit, interesting little track

Reminds me of this interesting thing on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/wyndiman/status/1029126319018102784

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

Feels Villeneuve posted:

The one country which hates spicy food more than America is Argentina.

Hello friend let me introduce you to Japan.

Portland is a good track, new Fuji is a very good track to spectate, and if NTT coming on board means the Motegi oval gets fixed then I’ll be extremely happy and make a trip all the way up there for that race.

SPACE HOMOS
Jan 12, 2005

I took some photos from the weekend. The IndyLights races had some great moments.

https://flic.kr/s/aHsmb6kZp4







Schlesische
Jul 4, 2012

Feels Villeneuve posted:

The one country which hates spicy food more than America is Argentina.

The Philippines absolutely takes that crown.
Pandesal might as well be baked with sugar instead of flour for how it tastes.

Basticle
Sep 12, 2011


can we add this to the OP ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM2IAZSp5UM


tia

Bentai
Jul 8, 2004


NERF THIS!


https://twitter.com/jimayello/status/1110935146583212036
I think Marcus is gonna fit in just fine with Indycar. :D

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jammyozzy
Dec 7, 2006
<img src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-jammyozzy.gif"><br>Is that a challenge?
I can't believe it's taken this long for somebody to point out that the actual worst circuit was F1's Valencia street circuit from a few years back.

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