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So a bunch of people pretending to be Rock fans but somehow missing that he’s always been left wing on issues
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Aesop Poprock posted:So a bunch of people pretending to be Rock fans but somehow missing that he’s always been left wing on issues Which makes even less sense when you consider that he always talks about voting Republican
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Mar 26, 2019 18:02
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its not that they are pretending to be rock fans. rock tries hard not to step on toes but sometimes he says the right thing which triggers the people who make the rock try not to step on toes. he's essentially pulling a michael jordan as far as the whole situation goes
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Mar 26, 2019 18:04
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Sydney Bottocks posted:Which makes even less sense when you consider that he always talks about voting Republican He voted for Obama both times. I have no idea who he voted for in 2016 but I’d be shocked if it was Trump
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Mar 26, 2019 18:06
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Aesop Poprock posted:He voted for Obama both times. I have no idea who he voted for in 2016 but I’d be shocked if it was Trump I wouldn’t. I think at a certain point of wealth money overrides some people’s voting decisions regardless of their other values.
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Mar 26, 2019 19:01
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Dacap posted:I wouldn’t. I think at a certain point of wealth money overrides some people’s voting decisions regardless of their other values. It’s pretty rare in the black community. These folks are mad at the rock because they thought he was “one of the good ones.” They will even go so far as saying “well he ain’t even black” because they will need to find a way to justify their racism.
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Mar 26, 2019 19:07
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those are the same people that say rock doesnt count as the first black champion because he's half samoan.
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Mar 26, 2019 20:33
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Mar 26, 2019 20:49
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sometimes i scroll that dude's feed and it makes my head hurt
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Mar 26, 2019 20:53
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Why would Donald Trump be on the side of an immigrant?
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Mar 26, 2019 21:07
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Dr. Baker posted:Why would Donald Trump be on the side of an immigrant? hwite
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Mar 26, 2019 21:15
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jesus WEP posted:sometimes i scroll that dude's feed and it makes my head hurt
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Mar 26, 2019 23:39
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https://twitter.com/OGJOHNNY5/status/1110723631292645376
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Mar 27, 2019 03:05
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Aesop Poprock posted:He voted for Obama both times. I have no idea who he voted for in 2016 but I’d be shocked if it was Trump Lol if you think Obama is left wing.
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Mar 27, 2019 03:40
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Gonzo McFee posted:Lol if you think Obama is left wing. Compared to Trump, he's loving Jello Biafra
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Mar 27, 2019 03:55
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Kofi will be the first black man in a Mania world title match since *checks notes* The Rock in 2013, six years ago *checks more notes for non-Rock entries since I know that's a thorny issue* *holy poo poo we're going way back and, oh honey, no* Booker T in 2003, 16 years ago So sure, WWE totally isn't racist anymore
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Mar 27, 2019 03:56
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Benne posted:Kofi will be the first black man in a Mania world title match since Well Batista is Phillipino, so you've got that in there a few times. And Roman is Samoan.
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Mar 27, 2019 04:42
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Sanguinia posted:Well Batista is Phillipino, so you've got that in there a few times. And Roman is Samoan. And Del Rio is Mexican, obviously. But you're glossing over the larger point, which is that WWE has historically never given a fair shake to African-American wrestlers when it comes to giving them high-profile matches on the biggest shows. The fact that their only black world champion in history can be debatable (regardless of where you fall on the Rock debate) is damning enough. So no, I'm not gonna throw roses at their feet just because Kofi happened to get hot at the right time. You know drat well he'd be doing his tired pancakes shtick on this show otherwise.
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Mar 27, 2019 05:09
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Benne posted:And Del Rio is Mexican, obviously. But you're glossing over the larger point, which is that WWE has historically never given a fair shake to African-American wrestlers when it comes to giving them high-profile matches on the biggest shows. The fact that their only black world champion in history can be debatable (regardless of where you fall on the Rock debate) is damning enough. I was actually trying to be snarky more than anything. Let me try again: Of course if Donald Trump had succeeded in getting Bobby Lashley over as the new guy at Mania 23 we could had him main eventing for the last ten years, so really this is his fault!
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Mar 27, 2019 05:12
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New Day turning a Louis Farrakhan then dancing minstrel gimmick into gold is a testament to their talent
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Mar 27, 2019 05:15
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Sanguinia posted:I was actually trying to be snarky more than anything. Yeah, I kinda guessed you were tongue-in-cheek, but a lot of people do use that when they try to argue that WWE isn't racist. "See, Batista is half-Filipino, and they pushed Del Rio for like 10 minutes, OF COURSE they care about diversity!!!"
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Mar 27, 2019 05:41
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one of the worst accounts out there, up there with fray and the bruce willis avatar trump supporter.
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Mar 27, 2019 08:49
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I dont know why posters call it a debate. it's not one. the rock is black. it doesnt matter what else he is. if you try to twist it you probably likely have some real weird issues about race and should self examine.
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Mar 27, 2019 09:10
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It's insane to me that I've seen people try to argue he somehow isn't black for basically 20 years now.
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Mar 27, 2019 09:32
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He's mixed and grew up privileged which doesn't count a whole lot for being black in most people's eyes.
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Mar 27, 2019 09:49
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STONE COLD 64 posted:I dont know why posters call it a debate. it's not one. the rock is black. it doesnt matter what else he is. if you try to twist it you probably likely have some real weird issues about race and should self examine. Some people are just stupid but then there's another group running backwards blindfolded into what they want to consider wokeness. it ended up making a lot of people who "mean well" say racist and/or stupid things like The Rock isn't black "Obama isn't black. Halle Berry isn't black. Bob Marley wasn't black. And they all grew up well. I should say this online to show that I understand the plight of black people" Pitter patter Cavauro fucked around with this message at 11:28 on Mar 27, 2019 |
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Mar 27, 2019 11:22
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STONE COLD 64 posted:I dont know why posters call it a debate. it's not one. the rock is black. it doesnt matter what else he is. if you try to twist it you probably likely have some real weird issues about race and should self examine. the problem was it took the rock years to say something like this it was always samoan first and dancing around the issue because he was towing the company line and didnt want to stir up poo poo backstage. Cavauro posted:Some people are just stupid but then there's another group running backwards blindfolded into what they want to consider wokeness. it ended up making a lot of people who "mean well" say racist and/or stupid things like The Rock isn't black I dont think I've ever heard anyone say the rest of the poo poo you said but the only people Ive seen say the rock isnt black are white people who didnt want to accept he is even half black and the black people who do the whole "He's too light to be black" thing whom are the older generation. AkumaHokoru fucked around with this message at 12:23 on Mar 27, 2019 |
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Mar 27, 2019 12:20
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AkumaHokoru posted:I dont think I've ever heard anyone say the rest of the poo poo you said but the only people Ive seen say the rock isnt black are white people who didnt want to accept he is even half black and the black people who do the whole "He's too light to be black" thing whom are the older generation. Are you serious? Any time Obama said anything about race, you had white people tripping over themselves declaring that he had no right to say such things because he's only part black and that doesn't count.
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Mar 27, 2019 14:23
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Are you serious? Any time Obama said anything about race, you had white people tripping over themselves declaring that he had no right to say such things because he's only part black and that doesn't count. And plenty of black people too. People absolutely used the "Obama isn't black" argument all the time.
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Mar 27, 2019 14:33
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SamuraiFoochs posted:And plenty of black people too. People absolutely used the "Obama isn't black" argument all the time. I remember the glory days of 'Bill Clinton, the First Black President' articles.
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Mar 27, 2019 14:37
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Obama's a communist therefore he can't be black. And furthermore
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Mar 27, 2019 14:41
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Are you serious? Any time Obama said anything about race, you had white people tripping over themselves declaring that he had no right to say such things because he's only part black and that doesn't count. I never head them say he shouldn't say it because he's only part black I've heard them say it because they didn't want him talking about black people things when he should be trying to bring people together. SamuraiFoochs posted:And plenty of black people too. People absolutely used the "Obama isn't black" argument all the time.
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Mar 27, 2019 14:45
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Talking about anyone but white people is divisive I feel.
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Mar 27, 2019 14:46
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I mean, my only differing thought on the thing was that Rock always seemed to pretty strongly de-emphasize his black identity in favor of his Samoan identity, and if that was a choice he was making I thought it was weird to be telling him what he is. Although I did certainly never like, question or deny his blackness.
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Mar 27, 2019 14:52
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AkumaHokoru posted:I never head them say he shouldn't say it because he's only part black I've heard them say it because they didn't want him talking about black people things when he should be trying to bring people together. They absolutely said it after the "If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon Martin" statement. Just because you claim to never have heard it doesn't mean it didn't happen.
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Mar 27, 2019 14:52
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Sanguinia posted:I mean, my only differing thought on the thing was that Rock always seemed to pretty strongly de-emphasize his black identity in favor of his Samoan identity, and if that was a choice he was making I thought it was weird to be telling him what he is. Although I did certainly never like, question or deny his blackness. https://twitter.com/TheRock/status/1108202967671496704
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Mar 27, 2019 14:54
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I think WWE preferred him to be Samoan and I think The Rock toed the company line but I think also think outside of that he's been open about how his heritage and how he views himself.
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Mar 27, 2019 14:54
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Pope Corky the IX posted:They absolutely said it after the "If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon Martin" statement. Just because you claim to never have heard it doesn't mean it didn't happen. They didn't say it because they embraced his whiteness they said it because they didn't want him to talk about black issues at all. it was a way of making their bigotry seem less bigoted.
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Mar 27, 2019 14:59
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Honestly I don't think WWE valued diversity at all until Steph brought it into their lexicon of buzzwords.
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Gumball Gumption posted:I think WWE preferred him to be Samoan and I think The Rock toed the company line but I think also think outside of that he's been open about how his heritage and how he views himself. right. the problem was he couldn't really express that during because he was towing the company line and the company line was he was samoan.
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