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Elviscat posted:That's a real mic drop from WOW, should we wind down operations? Nah, gently caress it we're out That's how it always goes. Lock the front door and head out the back, preferably with your pockets full of advanced bookings, and let the creditors sort out the rest. Booking on some rando low cost that appeared out of nowhere, especially if it's not publically traded, is always a high risk activity that at some point will leave you holding your dick.
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No, I've found the One Weird Trick to make money in aviation while providing incredibly low prices and reliable services, actually. This time it's sure to work! There's a flight school opening up near me that's promising fixed-price training, long-term instructors and aircraft rental without a per-day fee if you're going on an extended trip. Like, I get customers want those things to be available, but the owner is going to lose his rear end because there's no way in hell that plan can work profitably.
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buttcrackmenace posted:my view this morning Hi-ho, Silver! e - Also, sorry about your 10 dB, because dimes to dollars says the noise cancelling system is either broken or disabled.
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Mazz posted:The wing is gorgeous, the rest is not The wings really do it. I saw someone else post a while back the 380 was just the first "baby" version and as the future-of-air-travel-a-la-Popular-Mechanics-covers became a reality that the plane would be stretched and take on a more elegant shape, any veracity to that?
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Captain Postal posted:Huh? The warhead is at the back of the thing? Robert Goddard's first rockets also had the nozzle at the top and the fuel bottle/payload at the bottom. Apparently the idea was that by having the center of gravity lower than the center of thrust it would self-stabilize like a pendulum, or a horse pulling a cart. Later they did some math and realized that that effect only occurs when the horse and cart are connected by a movable coupling. The cart might begin to go off track, but the horse keeps heading in the right direction and pulls it back in line. Because the rocket nozzle is rigidly mounted and rotates with the vehicle, the thrust axis changes too, so the nozzle location doesn't affect stability. So I would guess that either the Nazis had the same incorrect idea as Goddard, or they correctly understood the physics, realized it didn't matter, and put the nozzles at the top for some other reason like weight distribution.
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Kebbins posted:The wings really do it. I saw someone else post a while back the 380 was just the first "baby" version and as the future-of-air-travel-a-la-Popular-Mechanics-covers became a reality that the plane would be stretched and take on a more elegant shape, any veracity to that? i need mockups. right now.
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Mar 28, 2019 22:16
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The A380 is ugly entirely because of its fivehead. Everything else about it is pretty or at least neutral. They just really hosed up on the plane's "eyes." q.v.: 
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Yeah it looks a lot better with the cockpit up top. I got several emails asking me not to refer to it as hydrocephalic when I wrote a thing about the plane a few weeks ago.
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i will literally never tire of this image. the reason that's not what the a380 looks like is because we dont deserve it
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Mar 28, 2019 23:00
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"Sell the same thing as everyone else but at a lower price" isn't an amazing business model.
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Stealing this from Rozzbot in the spaceflight thread, since you folks have been talking helicopters: https://twitter.com/NASAJPL/status/1111388028046499843
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buttcrackmenace posted:"tropical environment," sure, but just how long do engine cowling screws have to remain untouched in order to appear so fuckin rusty Untreated high-strength steel screws? Six seconds. Maybe 10. I get screws brand new, open the package, and put corrosion-preventative compound in the package immediately. Otherwise, the phillips indentions get orangey on the corners AS THEY'RE BEING INSTALLED.
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Mortabis posted:"Sell the same thing as everyone else but at a lower price" isn't an amazing business model. Provided you can do so while still making a profit, it's an excellent business model. This is clearly not the case when it comes to aviation though; it's a business where it's hard as gently caress to make any profit at all, and random bullshit usually comes along to gently caress with your plan to the degree it's irresponsible not to consider "the universe randomly fucks us over" as a continual operating expense. It's a constant balance between maintaining high utilization and having enough slack to handle the vicissitudes of the industry -- weather delays, Boeing engineering a lovely plane, something randomly breaking, a pilot getting drunk on a layover and then calling in sick, whatever. If you look at the industry from the outside, it's easy to say "hey, these planes are just sitting around and we're paying way too much for staff! We can efficiency/disrupt that away and make mad stacks!" Well, that's true, until things start loving up and you have no way to recover and you're liable to a whole bunch of passengers for delays and the airline industry claims another bright-eyed optimistic doofus.
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PT6A posted:Provided you can do so while still making a profit, it's an excellent business model. Gonna have to take issue with this post. Boeing didn't engineer a lovely plane, they hosed up a really good plane. 
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The 737 is an airplane that only an accountant could love, sorry.
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MrChips posted:The 737 is an airplane that only an accountant could love, sorry.  
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PT6A posted:Provided you can do so while still making a profit, it's an excellent business model. Hard Landing: if you haven't read it, go read it. Still very applicable, the degree of difficulty is hard to explain without a lot of detail. edit: The Economics of Airlines would also be a good read, I've yet to read it though. I'm more of a 737-400 guy, I like the squashy engines. _(5781108496).jpg)
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MrChips posted:The 737 is an airplane that only an accountant could love, sorry. i love the 737-100  squee
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So WOW airlines ceased all operations today. Who's next?
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Am I the only person here who finds almost all large commercial aircraft incredibly boring and ugly? Even the different liveries can only improve so much.
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Hot take: large commercial aircraft should be boring. Exciting is at best a ride down the ankle breaker slide.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Am I the only person here who finds almost all large commercial aircraft incredibly boring and ugly? Even the different liveries can only improve so much. I agree friend, you and I were meant to break Mach 1 straight up, and caress the face of God herself.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Am I the only person here who finds almost all large commercial aircraft incredibly boring and ugly? Even the different liveries can only improve so much. Most of the everyday people haulers are extremely dull, yes. Airlines have optimized the hell out of the tube-with-two-engines-in-three-sizes system and I doubt I could reliably pick the manufacturer, let alone the model, in a field of A3whatevers and 7X7s. But there are still some neat airliners around, like the adorable little 731 up there. If I ever got the money for a private jet I'd build it from one of those, turbojet noise be damned
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pthighs posted:I agree friend, you and I were meant to break Mach 1 straight up, and caress the face of God herself. Felix Baumgartner parachute account spotted.
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:The Fixed it for you.
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I think the Comet is pretty sweet looking. I also liked the look of the DC-8.
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SeaborneClink posted:So WOW airlines ceased all operations today. Who's next?
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Its amazing how much better liveries were until ~1988 or so.
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david_a posted:Norwegian from what I hear I can only get so erect.
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HookedOnChthonics posted:Speaking of 737s I just saw one land with a classic swoop winglet on the left and a split scimitar on the right Spirit or Ryanair?
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Alaska e: gently caress, wish stopping for a photo wouldn’t make me late for work, it’s parked nose-to-nose with a pair of eagles 
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HookedOnChthonics posted:Speaking of 737s I just saw one land with a classic swoop winglet on the left and a split scimitar on the right I see that all the loving time. For awhile I thought that was how it was designed.
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Elviscat posted:Felix Baumgartner parachute account spotted. Isn't every Felix Baumgartner account a parachute account e: I've got a soft spot for the 737 cause I spent a fair amount of time in one hunched over eatin' Bits n Bites when my fiancee and I weren't living together yet
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Sagebrush posted:The A380 is ugly entirely because of its fivehead. Everything else about it is pretty or at least neutral. They just really hosed up on the plane's "eyes." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0Qmtm7_VFk
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e.pilot posted:I can only get so erect.
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Jonny Nox posted:I see that all the loving time. Why would they have asymmetrical wingtip devices? Surely they can't just pull whatever's in the stockroom when a plane goes in for maintenance.
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Sagebrush posted:Why would they have asymmetrical wingtip devices? Surely they can't just pull whatever's in the stockroom when a plane goes in for maintenance. I'm not an aeronautical engineer?
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