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Rude Mechanical posted:It's not so much the fact that I have to do them that is the problem, more that I'm quite poo poo at them. i'm sorry that you don't feel good about your performance on tests, i guess i'm not really sorry about any of this, you are bitching and moaning about having the best possible opportunities. omg you have to suffer through testing to get a golden ticket!!?!???
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it's so hard being considered for positions most americans didn't even know existed, and could never have applied for, i have to demonstrate some kind of skill on the spot. don't they recognize my innate aptitudes? what a fuckin cross to bear
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Apr 5, 2019 08:02
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guys i have to apply for internships and suffer through coding tests i am basically jesus, on the cross (in this case the holy lance is hackerrank.com)
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Apr 5, 2019 08:03
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:it's so hard being considered for positions most americans didn't even know existed, i have to demonstrate some kind of aptitude on the spot 
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Apr 5, 2019 08:04
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great post/av combo
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you can have it if you like good luck with your internet tests, OP qhat fucked around with this message at 08:12 on Apr 5, 2019 |
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Apr 5, 2019 08:09
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How loving good does it feel to be served up a problem you've already practiced though? Spend a couple nights on hacker rank or code kata or whatever a month and your odds of looking like a guru next year go way up. I had an interview where the main tech test was straight out of the Stanford CS interview practice sheets
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Apr 5, 2019 08:15
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when i interviewed at MS they asked me to whiteboard a medium leetcode problem i already worked through as the final problem literally of the previous night, and i only did it as a "just in case". still didn't get the job though, recruiter said it was between me and another candidate and they edged me out. i guess i already used up all my luck quota that day before the interview even finished.
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Apr 5, 2019 08:18
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I want to be in both camps on this issue. On one hand light take-home / live coding / white boarding is fine. You can talk about things and ask questions and if you're not a moron or a terrible fit it'll be fine. This is the point where bad companies will weed out themselves if this thread is any indication. gently caress companies who send day / week assignments though. gently caress them with rusty nails.
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Apr 5, 2019 09:26
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It's my bad, I'm just feeling Not Great about blowing an opportunity.
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Apr 5, 2019 09:38
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Rude Mechanical posted:It's my bad, I'm just feeling Not Great about blowing an opportunity. This feeling is going to be your eternal soulmate like it is mine.
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Apr 5, 2019 09:50
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:guys i have to apply for internships and suffer through coding tests who hurt you?
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Apr 5, 2019 12:04
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MononcQc posted:who hurt you? A man with very bad or very great shoes, nobody knows
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:guys i have to apply for internships and suffer through coding tests I still struggle with anxiety for code tests. so gently caress off. also sir this is a wendys turn your monitor lol
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mekkanare posted:I got hit up by a fb recruiter about two weeks ago wanted to talk to me about a position by phone. I said to email me more information about it, and she replied "Well we're looking for X years of experience and you only have Y." Recruiter negging, nice
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Apr 5, 2019 12:46
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Kilometres Davis posted:How loving good does it feel to be served up a problem you've already practiced though? drat this feels like a pretty tidy encapsulation of a lot of tech's hiring problems and class mobility more generally
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Is there a German loan word for when an elegant solution to yesterday’s phone screen problem pops into your head mid shower?
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KidDynamite posted:Is there a German loan word for when an elegant solution to yesterday’s phone screen problem pops into your head mid shower? Showerwitz? Schadenboner fucked around with this message at 13:24 on Apr 5, 2019 |
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Apr 5, 2019 13:21
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KidDynamite posted:Is there a German loan word for when an elegant solution to yesterday’s phone screen problem pops into your head mid shower? l'esprit de le bain
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bob dobbs is dead posted:A man with very bad or very great shoes, nobody knows using the monte carlo method, estimate the quality of the applicant's shoes
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cheque_some posted:Recruiter negging, nice The best part about being gainfully employed in a job you like is you can call this poo poo out
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Apr 5, 2019 14:09
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Oh man my new job is all about Ruby on Rails. Sure all the cool kids on the block are using "node.js" or "angular" or whatever, but drat it, if they pay me for RoR, then I will write ruby like my life depends on it. I don't know what the migrations or whatever do, but I'll get by. Wish me luck, my goons, as now I am just studying at my company, but once 22nd comes, I'll be a bona-fide developer.
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Piano Maniac posted:Wish me luck, my goons, as now I am just studying at my company, but once 22nd comes, I'll be a bona-fide developer. Steady on there ..... you'll be a Ruby Developer. But seriously congrats on the job and the training.
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Piano Maniac posted:Oh man my new job is all about Ruby on Rails. Sure all the cool kids on the block are using "node.js" or "angular" or whatever, but drat it, welcome to the cult of ruby we all work 30 hour weeks and contribute nothing of value to society but it pays the figgies
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Apr 5, 2019 18:13
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Anyone familiar with the startup Bolt out of San Fran?
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EVGA Longoria posted:welcome to the cult of ruby 30 hour weeks? I’m doing the wrong type of dev. None of what we do contributes to society.
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Rex-Goliath posted:The best part about being gainfully employed in a job you like is you can call this poo poo out Out of all the faang I am not surprised that it's FB adopting sleazy PUA tactics
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Out of the faang recruiters I've spoken to, FB ones have by far been the worst for that. One even got my name wrong on LinkedIn and misspelled their words when I said I would need visa sponsorship.
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I just told them "I don't see how one year of difference is a big deal, so feel free to tell me more about the position in an email. Unless you think it's a problem." Haven't heard back, so bullet dodged. cheque_some posted:Out of all the faang I am not surprised that it's FB adopting sleazy PUA tactics yo 'canny, u want sum job??? learn 2 code first, idiot! we could prolly get u 2 little poo poo instead of the big poo poo u r now, hmu!!!
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Apr 5, 2019 23:58
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got a note that the place I interviewed yesterday wants to extend an offer 
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Good poo poo. Hopefully they also want to extend the figgies.
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I asked for more than the range the recruiter gave me but only like 10% more so hopefully it won’t be an issue, the company seems pretty chill in a grown up way and I wouldn’t want that to gently caress it up
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I'll get cold calling recruiters for Microsoft from time to time. Or well, Redmond, Washington. Half of them are calling for a consulting company they're apparently placing for, which I find super dumb.
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iospace posted:I'll get cold calling recruiters for Microsoft from time to time. Or well, Redmond, Washington. a huge amount of Microsofts headcount is outsourced via a few recruiting companies they work closely with. They're still w2 positions with all the figgies and bennies, it's just a lot of groups at Microsoft don't want to do their own recruiting. I wouldn't be so quick to scorn opportunities coming at you from that angle.
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jit bull transpile posted:a huge amount of Microsofts headcount is outsourced via a few recruiting companies they work closely with. They're still w2 positions with all the figgies and bennies, it's just a lot of groups at Microsoft don't want to do their own recruiting. I wouldn't be so quick to scorn opportunities coming at you from that angle. I get that, but it gets frustrating when I have 10 of them likely calling for the same job in the same day (which isn't any fault of their own, to be fair), and had one in the past tell me to lie on my resume by shuffling where the experience was.
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Did a screening coding test for one of the big companies. 2 questions, the first question was fairly easy to solve. The second one caught me by complete surprise, it was a Minimum Spanning Tree problem and I was just not expecting something on this level for the screening phase. I mean, the recruiter sent me a couple sample hackerrank problems, I did them all but none of them were close to this level. Anyway, it was a complete disaster and I couldn't submit anything close to functional. I still passed the test anyway.  Not sure what the takeaway here is, I guess it's like when you get caught with something unexpectedly hard... Don't feel too upset? Maybe getting me to panic was by design.
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the real takeaway is that after training a bit today I feel like I'm pretty good at solving MST problems now 
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iospace posted:I get that, but it gets frustrating when I have 10 of them likely calling for the same job in the same day (which isn't any fault of their own, to be fair), and had one in the past tell me to lie on my resume by shuffling where the experience was. I had this, there were 3 jobs in particular [all w2 contract] that I probably got at least 10 calls each for. what's weird about that is these agencies generally get the same money from the company if someone gets hired but I was hearing a range from $65-90 on one job. given the one company could afford 90 that means their bill rate was probably 120-135, so if someone took it for 65 the contract company could be making more money than the employee I'm going to be glad to be done with contracting. I missed pto and even though you tell yourself you can afford to take breaks you generally don't. that said the benefits were good [better than my full time co-workers] and the company wasn't too lovely about "no contractors" stuff, mostly executive rah rah sessions I didn't care about. plus they didn't make me fly to minneapolis in winter
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jit bull transpile posted:a huge amount of Microsofts headcount is outsourced via a few recruiting companies they work closely with. They're still w2 positions with all the figgies and bennies, it's just a lot of groups at Microsoft don't want to do their own recruiting. I wouldn't be so quick to scorn opportunities coming at you from that angle. if you want to work at microsoft the best thing to do is to go to the careers site, look at the specific job openings, and apply directly. there are hundreds of openings. the hiring manager receives an email with your resume. response rate will vary depending on circumstances so apply to lots of them. this shouldn't be difficult because, again, there are hundreds of openings. special considerations: - don't apply for positions in windows or office unless you hate yourself and want to die. - be careful with third parties because you do not want to be a v- at microsoft.
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qirex posted:I had this, there were 3 jobs in particular [all w2 contract] that I probably got at least 10 calls each for. what's weird about that is these agencies generally get the same money from the company if someone gets hired but I was hearing a range from $65-90 on one job. given the one company could afford 90 that means their bill rate was probably 120-135, so if someone took it for 65 the contract company could be making more money than the employee if they offer was 90, their bill rate was probably 180-200
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