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SubG posted:Off to work. Wait, forgot to disconnect the fridge. Also the AC.
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lifts cats over head posted:Despite plenty of evidence to the contrary my wife is not ok with it being on while we're not home due to a concern something could go wrong. SubG posted:Off to work. Wait, forgot to disconnect the people leave slow cookers running unattended all the time. immersion sous vide devices seem even safer given that, you know, the hot bit is immersed in a bunch of water.
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Apr 8, 2019 21:08
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We once cooked some sous vide prime rib for my in-laws. The thing is, they have a habit of disconnecting all appliances (mixers, coffee machines, etc.) when not in use. So naturally, they unplugged the sous vide circulator thinking it wasn't in use.  Thankfully, I noticed early enough that the water had barely gone 2 degrees under temp.
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Apr 8, 2019 21:21
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Sure, AC, heating and water are comparable to a random rear end 900w+ kitchen device. For a better suited comparison: Would you seriously leave your oven on when you go away for several hours? You do you but I can see the woman's point.
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Apr 8, 2019 23:07
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Hopper posted:Sure, AC, heating and water are comparable to a random rear end 900w+ kitchen device. For a better suited comparison: Would you seriously leave your oven on when you go away for several hours? Actually I'd suggest the 900w+ kitchen device is sketchier to leave on than an oven. Like if your oven can't be unattended then you need to replace it.
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Apr 8, 2019 23:12
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Would you even need to minimize the time in the danger zone if the entire bag has been pasteurized in the first cooking session? e: Not that it isn't a good idea to do so anyway taqueso fucked around with this message at 23:30 on Apr 8, 2019 |
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Apr 8, 2019 23:13
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Hopper posted:Sure, AC, heating and water are comparable to a random rear end 900w+ kitchen device. For a better suited comparison: Would you seriously leave your oven on when you go away for several hours? I leave my oven on and leave the house all the time. We had an oven in the 80s with timers exactly for that purpose.
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Apr 8, 2019 23:19
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Hopper posted:Sure, AC, heating and water are comparable to a random rear end 900w+ kitchen device. For a better suited comparison: Would you seriously leave your oven on when you go away for several hours?
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Apr 9, 2019 00:20
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A heating element that is operating at a fraction of its maximum power for most of a cook, at that.
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Apr 9, 2019 00:23
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SubG posted:Most s-v devices are a water pump and a heating element. If leaving those on, unattended, for a couple hours once in awhile freaks your poo poo out then save your sanity and never look into what aquarium owners do for literally years on end. They really are basically fancy aquarium heaters. Fact sheet on the Anova says it's got a lower end of 77f, which is actually about perfect for tropicals.
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Apr 9, 2019 00:24
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Subjunctive posted:A heating element that is operating at a fraction of its maximum power for most of a cook, at that.
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Apr 9, 2019 00:25
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Hopper posted:Sure, AC, heating and water are comparable to a random rear end 900w+ kitchen device. For a better suited comparison: Would you seriously leave your oven on when you go away for several hours? Yes, I'm not very well going to sit around at home all day every time I want to bake some beans
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Apr 9, 2019 04:38
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Relentless posted:They really are basically fancy aquarium heaters. Fact sheet on the Anova says it's got a lower end of 77f, which is actually about perfect for tropicals. I wonder how long an Anova willl last for when you run it 24/7? Heaters were always the dodgy part of my set up and failed the most often. Plus it would solve the water circulation problem.
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Apr 9, 2019 04:45
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NPR Journalizard posted:I wonder how long an Anova willl last for when you run it 24/7? Heaters were always the dodgy part of my set up and failed the most often. Plus it would solve the water circulation problem. They don't turn back on automatically after a power outage is the big concern.
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Relentless posted:They don't turn back on automatically after a power outage is the big concern. I'm pretty sure that I could rig up some arduino system that was powered off the mains system to check to see if the anova was running every x minutes and turn it on if not, but at that stage it's a bit 
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Why wouldn't you leave your oven on? Has it ever started your kitchen on fire, even on 550degrees or self clean?
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Apr 9, 2019 05:34
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The circulation is probably going to be too forceful for fish e: the alive kind
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Apr 9, 2019 06:30
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Anne Whateley posted:The circulation is probably going to be too forceful for fish Bump the wheel and you have dinner.
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Apr 9, 2019 06:36
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A huge share of house fires are caused by faulty electrical equipment. If you leave fewer of them running while you are away, the risk is lower. As a compromise, you can do the 24 hour cooks on the weekend where an accidental fire will
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Apr 9, 2019 06:37
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Yeah, with leaving it on while I leave, I always worry that it will cut off and then come back on without me knowing it and I kill everyone with bad food. It's like a 0.00001% worry though. I don't know if it's just my Anova, but in the last power outage I had when running, it shut off for five minutes, and then when the power turned on it turned back on and went right up to the set temp. That might be the Bluetooth link or something.
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Apr 9, 2019 17:30
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Ola posted:A huge share of house fires are caused by faulty electrical equipment. Electrical fires are around 10% of residential structure fires, and about 70% of those are due to problems in wiring or lighting systems. Electrical appliances suddenly bursting into flames because they were left on is loving rounding error. In most years the majority of all residential structure fires are due to cooking, and the majority of those are due to accidents on the range/stovetop. If you're worried about preventing household fires you should spend way the gently caress more time worrying about using your fry pan than about leaving your s-v machine running.
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Apr 9, 2019 20:40
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SubG posted:No they aren't. Where I live, 99% of ranges are electric, so that does skew the stats a little.
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Apr 9, 2019 20:53
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SubG posted:No they aren't. Here's my anecdotal experience as a property manager. I've seen a few dozen fires over the years. Causes: •Overloaded outlet with aluminum wiring: 2 •Unextinguished smoking materials put in something that should never be used as an ashtray: 2 •Deep frying on the stove is hard: 3 •Start cooking on the stove then go do something else and forget you're cooking, probably because you're drunk or high: All the rest
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Apr 9, 2019 21:02
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Flash Gordon Ramsay posted:Here's my anecdotal experience as a property manager. I've seen a few dozen fires over the years. Causes: As a property manager you're probably more likely to learn about a fire the more serious it is, and you probably don't learn about the majority of fires overall because they don't result in property damage.
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Apr 9, 2019 21:32
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SubG posted:That's pretty much what nationwide (for America) data says, with a couple caveats: stovetop accidents are most likely to cause a fire overall, but incidents related to smoking materials are most likely to produce a fire that results in injury or death, and wiring faults are most likely to cause a fire that results in structural/property damage. Can confirm. My buddy had to tell his landlord why there were scorch marks on the ceiling above where he started a grease fire while deep frying, but my first landlord never found out about the time I shot a fireball out of the toaster oven, even though it singed my eyebrows. 
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Anyone here have a Sous Vide Egg Bites a la Starbucks that they really like? I want to do them in advance for an easy heat and eat breakfast on Sunday (and probably every day thereafter). I assume you can cook/chill them in their little jars and then just toaster oven or broiler to brown and heat?
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Back when I was making them (doctor says cholesterol is too high RIP) I used the recipe from skillet/lifehacker and it was pretty solid. I felt like the texture was always just a hair off from custard though, probably because I was lazy and just threw everything in a blender and let it rip to make it smooth which made it too frothy. https://skillet.lifehacker.com/these-sous-vide-egg-bites-are-your-new-weekday-breakfas-1824008696
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Hopper posted:You do you but I can see the woman's point.  Ola posted:Where I live, 99% of ranges are electric, so that does skew the stats a little. LorneReams posted:Yeah, with leaving it on while I leave, I always worry that it will cut off and then come back on without me knowing it and I kill everyone with bad food. It's like a 0.00001% worry though
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Elizabethan Error posted:
It's a heater element. It only needs of the single-point cheap bits like probe or thermostat to fail, or some part of the software to trigger a weird bug, it would then boil the water away in a couple of hours before it caught fire. It's not very likely of course. I use a rice cooker and a PID controller. On a few occasions, the controller has gotten into some weird state where it'll put the power on in a constant, rhythmic, on/off pattern and the temperature will start to increase above the setting. Always caught it before it got too bad and I also have the rice cooker's own thermostat as a backup, it is meant to switch to keep-warm-mode when the water has boiled away anyway. I don't trust that equipment to leave it alone for long periods of time as a habit, but I'll do it now and then.
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Ultimate Mango posted:Anyone here have a Sous Vide Egg Bites a la Starbucks that they really like? I stir a "pinch" of freshly ground cheese into the jar before putting the lid on to sous-vide. Simple, tasty. I'll usually add thinly sliced green onion or chives too.
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Doing my first tri-tip. I've heard times between 2 hours and 7 hours. What's the best time? Was going to cook to the rare side of medium rare and finish on a sizzling grill.
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e: whoops for some reason I thought I was in a BBQ thread.
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dy. posted:Doing my first tri-tip. I've heard times between 2 hours and 7 hours. What's the best time? Was going to cook to the rare side of medium rare and finish on a sizzling grill. Cook to whatever final doneness you actually want, in case that’s not what you mean. A tri-tip isn’t going to move much in terms of internal temperature in the time it takes you to finish it.
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Subjunctive posted:Cook to whatever final doneness you actually want, in case that’s not what you mean. A tri-tip isn’t going to move much in terms of internal temperature in the time it takes you to finish it.
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Doing a butterflied then filled and rolled up leg of lamb for Sunday. Due to logistics, I plan to prep and bag it tonight and put in the water tomorrow noon. The "filling" is a mix of toasted mustard seeds, toasted cumin seeds and mint. Do you reckon that is fine to prep tonight and leave in the fridge for 18 hours or will it affect the taste due to too much "marinading" of the flavours?
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Hopper posted:Doing a butterflied then filled and rolled up leg of lamb for Sunday. Due to logistics, I plan to prep and bag it tonight and put in the water tomorrow noon. I haven't tried anything similar, but I would optimistically assume it tastes better because of that.
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Yeah, I would not worry too much about that combination overpowering leg of lamb.
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Ola posted:It's a heater element. It only needs of the single-point cheap bits like probe or thermostat to fail, or some part of the software to trigger a weird bug, it would then boil the water away in a couple of hours before it caught fire. First, it can't even get hot enough to boil water. Second, assuming that all the water did evaporate, why would it catch fire?
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Phanatic posted:First, it can't even get hot enough to boil water. As controlled by properly-functioning software that’s true, but I’d be surprised if a runaway 750W heater couldn’t get water to a boil eventually. That’s what many kettles are around here. (I don’t think it’s a safety concern, but given 750W or heating power, and the full might of Ola’s imagination, I think you get to boiling at some point.) E: see? 750W is even enough to warm champagne! 
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Phanatic posted:First, it can't even get hot enough to boil water. Second, assuming that all the water did evaporate, why would it catch fire? Or course it can get hot enough. It has a thermostat that switches off when it reaches the set temp. If that single component fails, 750W will heat 4 gallons of water to boiling in under 2 hours, assuming no losses. 750W constantly on indoors will cause a fire sooner or later. Any electric heater etc at that power can also cause a fire, but usually don't because they too have thermostats. And they are designed to fail in safe ways, after having caused innumerable fires in the past. Hell, a 100W TV can also catch fire, given that there's something wrong with it. For that matter, so can a fridge. I'm not saying it's risky to do multi-day sous vides while away from home, but you certainly can't say it's physically impossible that something can go wrong. If someone you live with doesn't want to, why not throw them a bone and so some longer ones while in the house first.
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