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eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Megazver posted:

It's a union thing, apparently. You either cast all-union or all-non-union. And if that's true, Tiny Tina, Fiona and Gortys are also going to be recast. Actually, probably everyone will.

oh my loving god lmao

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Tinfoil Papercut
Jul 27, 2016

by Athanatos
Pandora is a right to work planet you Vladof scum.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Borderlands draws the bulk of its voice cast from Texas, a non-union state. Tales was done out in LA, which is union. Baker and Laura Bailey (and probably Burch) are union enough that they can't do non-union stuff anymore. There's kind of levels to it. Like Matt Mercer can still do non-union stuff but wouldn't be considered a scab either although he's said he doesn't want to be the Troy Baker Impersonator anymore.

Gearbox would have to do something special to get them back which we all know is unlikely.

Crabtree
Oct 17, 2012

ARRRGH! Get that wallet out!
Everybody: Lowtax in a Pickle!
Pickle! Pickle! Pickle! Pickle!

Dinosaur Gum

Arcsquad12 posted:

So that union strike is still going strong, I see. Doesn't surprise me that Gearbox would be one of the shittier studios to do voice work for.

I mean we already knew that gearbox were cheap bastards and lazy to boot, so it's not out of the question.

They steal money, they steal ideas, they sure as poo poo would tell a voice actor's union to gently caress itself.

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord

Tinfoil Papercut posted:

Pandora is a right to work planet you Vladof scum.

I will get the thread name changed to this if Pitchford hosed up this badly for the 3rd game.

Pirate Jet
May 2, 2010

Risky Bisquick posted:

Keeping score: both Rhys and Claptrap are recast for voice acting work. If they don't keep voice continuity they might break immersion and ruin the experience.

Well, Claptrap was recast because his old voice actor was Gearbox’s VP of Business Development, who left the studio and is apparently now on bad terms with Pitchford. He ominously tweeted “Yes, it’s true” during flashdrivegate, and was completely replaced in Borderlands 2 VR despite it being easier not to.

Judge Tesla
Oct 29, 2011

:frogsiren:

Dawgstar posted:

Borderlands draws the bulk of its voice cast from Texas, a non-union state. Tales was done out in LA, which is union. Baker and Laura Bailey (and probably Burch) are union enough that they can't do non-union stuff anymore. There's kind of levels to it. Like Matt Mercer can still do non-union stuff but wouldn't be considered a scab either although he's said he doesn't want to be the Troy Baker Impersonator anymore.

Gearbox would have to do something special to get them back which we all know is unlikely.

The bulk of the cast is voiced by Funimation regulars, only a couple as mentioned will be recast, Laura Bailey doesn't do voice work for DBZ anymore because she's union now for example.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Judge Tesla posted:

The bulk of the cast is voiced by Funimation regulars, only a couple as mentioned will be recast, Laura Bailey doesn't do voice work for DBZ anymore because she's union now for example.

Yeah, I think they might even use Chris Sabat's own studio.

Donovan Trip
Jan 6, 2007

AkumaHokoru posted:

only new claptraps

Yep, the *one* character we already know has been replaced. I don't think that was accidental at all.

Kaysette
Jan 5, 2009

~*Boston makes me*~
~*feel good*~

:wrongcity:
losing claptrap and tiny tina's VAs is a blessing in disguise

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Is a discount claptrap really going to be an "improvement"

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

Crabtree posted:

They steal money, they steal ideas, they sure as poo poo would tell a voice actor's union to gently caress itself.

Listen here: Randy Pitchfork fucks people, he doesn't get hosed. Which was why he's still so mad at Gabe for the treatment of Gearbox during the Half Life expansions crap.

Donovan Trip
Jan 6, 2007

BexGu posted:

Listen here: Randy Pitchfork fucks people, he doesn't get hosed. Which was why he's still so mad at Gabe for the treatment of Gearbox during the Half Life expansions crap.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Losing all the voice actors would hurt almost as much as when Relic recast everyone for Dawn of War 3. It's not a Dawn of War game if there aren't three flavours of Dobson brothers screaming like it's an episode of Ocean dub DBZ.

Pirate Jet
May 2, 2010
I am morbidly excited to hear how bad the new Tiny Tina will be.

The Anime Liker
Aug 8, 2009

by VideoGames
I am unashamedly a Tiny Tina fan and it's going to be hilarious hearing a non-union VA scab trying to replicate Burch.

Donovan Trip
Jan 6, 2007

Arcsquad12 posted:

Is a discount claptrap really going to be an "improvement"

Yeah I mean if you don't like the characters as they were, you're certainly not going to like someone impersonating them. It'll be uncanny valley paired with "toning it down".

Crabtree
Oct 17, 2012

ARRRGH! Get that wallet out!
Everybody: Lowtax in a Pickle!
Pickle! Pickle! Pickle! Pickle!

Dinosaur Gum

BexGu posted:

Listen here: Randy Pitchfork fucks people, he doesn't get hosed. Which was why he's still so mad at Gabe for the treatment of Gearbox during the Half Life expansions crap.

You get the job if you give him a portfolio disk drive full of porn.

Otacon
Aug 13, 2002


teenaged tiny tina is now voiced by randy pitchford sucking on sour warheads giving his best falsetto

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

Crabtree posted:

You get the job if you give him a portfolio disk drive full of porn.

You gotta get past Anthony Burch casting couch before you can drop off the usb through.

NofrikinfuN
Apr 23, 2009


Grimey Drawer

A GLISTENING HODOR posted:

I am unashamedly a Tiny Tina fan and it's going to be hilarious hearing a non-union VA scab trying to replicate Burch.

I feel like Gaige's voice actress could pull off a grown up Tina. Gaige already felt kinda like Tina's older sister.

moist turtleneck
Jul 17, 2003

Represent.



Dinosaur Gum
I mean wouldnt tiny tina sound different because she's grown up now anyways

sounds like a perfect time for a new VA who cares

Crabtree
Oct 17, 2012

ARRRGH! Get that wallet out!
Everybody: Lowtax in a Pickle!
Pickle! Pickle! Pickle! Pickle!

Dinosaur Gum
Tiny Tina is just a underpaid list of wanna be VAs, sex workers and people on the street Pitchford cornered to finish a line. The VAs and sex workers are mostly paid in exposure while the people on the street got that up front.

Donovan Trip
Jan 6, 2007

NofrikinfuN posted:

Tina at least has an obvious age difference to explain the change. The jump from adolescence to late teens/adulthood can be pretty big and still be believable.

You're telling Randy!!

Ruflux posted:

Borderlands 2 wasn't a union gig, so nah. Also mixed casting isn't an insurmountable issue but union actors do command higher rates so it could genuinely just be Troy Baker is too expensive for the part Rhys plays in the story and so Gearbox just went "gently caress that, we'll replace him".

Sounds like it's...barely legal :smug:

Crabtree
Oct 17, 2012

ARRRGH! Get that wallet out!
Everybody: Lowtax in a Pickle!
Pickle! Pickle! Pickle! Pickle!

Dinosaur Gum
The only noticeable difference besides Tina's wildly fluctuating voice that she'll jokingly chalk up to puberty is that there will be a lot of background noise kept in the recordings of Randy getting punched in the face, kicked in the dick or pepper sprayed because he keeps asking the talent they wanted to see a magic trick. So at least a net positive for the character overall.

Pirate Jet
May 2, 2010
I really doubt it’s a problem of Baker’s asking price being too high if he’s willing to come back for loving Catherine, of all things.

AkumaHokoru
Jul 20, 2007

Pirate Jet posted:

I really doubt it’s a problem of Baker’s asking price being too high if he’s willing to come back for loving Catherine, of all things.

wanna talk about a franchise that poo poo the bed and erased all the good will the original story told. Catherine is CURSED.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

AkumaHokoru posted:

wanna talk about a franchise that poo poo the bed and erased all the good will the original story told. Catherine is CURSED.

Why is it cursed? What happened? I adore Catherine

AkumaHokoru
Jul 20, 2007

Lid posted:

Why is it cursed? What happened? I adore Catherine

They updated the game and added a third character whom is trans. the "best" ending for that char is they go back before the char transitioned and they never do which is like...uhh no. no no no no no no no. no.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
A Japanese game stumbles trying to discuss sexuality in a tasteful manner?

AkumaHokoru
Jul 20, 2007

Arcsquad12 posted:

A Japanese game stumbles trying to discuss sexuality in a tasteful manner?

I mean that's at the level of American "conversion therapy" where they try to bully the gay away also the company behind Catherine's development has done these kinds of antics in their other games apparently that's plenty.

Crabtree
Oct 17, 2012

ARRRGH! Get that wallet out!
Everybody: Lowtax in a Pickle!
Pickle! Pickle! Pickle! Pickle!

Dinosaur Gum
On top of Catherine's protagonist being bit of a poo poo about sex in general and the game's themes being gross, Atlus decided to step on a modern landmine with both feet on the claymore, on top of all this, for seemingly no reason at all. The franchise is now reviled and Katsura Hashino is persona non grata in the mega ten crowd as he tries to get his Studio Zero game, Project Re FANTASY, any kind of hype.

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

Pirate Jet posted:

I really doubt it’s a problem of Baker’s asking price being too high if he’s willing to come back for loving Catherine, of all things.

Yeah but that was only after he mentioned not being asked on Twitter, resulting in some controversy and Atlus scrambling to see if they could cut a deal. It's very likely they're not even re-recording any of his old lines. I think this might be an attempt at a similar ploy, actually. Difference is, Randy only cares about money and doesn't mind people hating him for being a greedy piece of poo poo, so I doubt it'll work.

Crabtree
Oct 17, 2012

ARRRGH! Get that wallet out!
Everybody: Lowtax in a Pickle!
Pickle! Pickle! Pickle! Pickle!

Dinosaur Gum
He could also not want to step into another super controversial game and Randy being a greedy creep who doesn't give a poo poo about labor unions is as good of a legit excuse as any to avoid Borderlands 3.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

BexGu posted:

You gotta get past Anthony Burch casting couch before you can drop off the usb through.

Oh, wow. Burch's wokeness is of the performative variety?

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

Dawgstar posted:

Oh, wow. Burch's wokeness is of the performative variety?

Burch is a woke male feminist at their finest.

There is a reason the meme "Thank God I'm not Anthony Burch" was a thing for awhile.

watho
Aug 2, 2013


The real world will, again tomorrow, function and run without me.

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Games > Borderlands 3: Gearbox's Business Practices Turned Me Socialist

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib

BexGu posted:

Burch is a woke male feminist at their finest.

There is a reason the meme "Thank God I'm not Anthony Burch" was a thing for awhile.

I haven't heard anything about Anthony Burch. Are we sure we aren't confusing him for Joss Whedon?

Then again, in this hellworld it is hard to keep track of who is terrible.

Unlucky7 fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Apr 9, 2019

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006

Unlucky7 posted:

I haven't heard anything about Anthony Burch. Are we sure we aren't confusing him for Joss Whedon?

Then again, in this hellworld it is hard to keep track of who is terrible.

He hasn't actually done anything objectionable, as far as I know. He was just kinda... cringe on Twitter until he deleted the account.

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Donovan Trip
Jan 6, 2007
Deleting your Twitter account is really the best feature of it

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