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I said it before, but Titania's the one level I never managed to get the medal on. It drives me nuts to this day. Thorn made it look really drat easy. I actually enjoy using the Landmaster though. The plot conceit for using it is practically non-existent, but I like the idea--let's take a bunch of spare Arwing parts and build a loving tank out of them! Sure it's kinda janky and the G-Diffuser barely works, but man, it's a tank. I may be easily amused by that sort of thing.
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At least Thorn has an in-game excuse for using the Landmaster this time: His Arwing's probably undergoing repairs after losing a wing in the previous mission.
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Apr 12, 2019 11:46
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I didn't know Slippy would make an appearance if he was taken out beforehand. That's hilarious.
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Apr 12, 2019 16:09
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I do remember finding Spyborg utterly terrifying as a kid. That kind of poo poo is weird when you're 6.
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Apr 12, 2019 17:29
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Dr Christmas posted:I didn't know Slippy would make an appearance if he was taken out beforehand. That's hilarious. Yeah, I vaguely remember one time I shot him down myself to try to bypass that event (yes, I sucked at Star Fox) only to have him pop up anyway. He doesn't even care if he already died earlier in the same stage, he'll still show up and get knocked away like a baseball.
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Apr 12, 2019 17:36
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chitoryu12 posted:I do remember finding Spyborg utterly terrifying as a kid. That kind of poo poo is weird when you're 6. And then you land on Titania, and for me at least, that's the hardest level in the game. I always was excruciatingly bad at it, and it's vindicating that even someone capable of doing a medal run on it just says "gently caress it" to hovering over the fallen columns because it's just too finicky. There's so much STUFF in that level that my health always just drained away before I could get anywhere close to the boss, and that fucker itself is also quite hard to take down well. That tail sweep attack is murder (again, because the probably most intended way is to hover over it). I did eventually beat it, and it felt amazing to overcome that challenge, but boy did I not think that the blue route was the "easy" one...
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Apr 12, 2019 17:37
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Honestly Titania scarred me so badly that it made me get better at the game, and from that point onwards I always destroyed Spyborg quickly so Slippy wouldn't gently caress me over, because god, child me did not like the Landmaster at all. I doubt adult me would like it much either, in a game with pretty good controls, the Landmaster does not have them.
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Apr 12, 2019 17:59
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Add another to the list of Titania scarring me. I remember Game Overing to that world after struggling desperately through sector X so I resolved to play Fortuna over and over again until I got good enough to Accomplish it and go to Solar / Macbeth instead. I never took that route again until I was 18 and came back to the game.
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Apr 12, 2019 18:35
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Yeah, Fortuna into Solar and Macbeth (then lower route from there) is a way better recipe for success than the pure blue alternative.
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Apr 12, 2019 18:48
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So I forget what happens if you clear Sector X with Slippy safe and then choose to do Titania anyway. Does the game still treat it as if Slippy’s downed? Because I know other routes have relatively minor changes if you succeed at the mission and then take the failure route option anyway, like StarWolf just not showing up at all on Bolse if you murdered the poo poo out of them on Fortuna, etc.
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Apr 12, 2019 19:33
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nine-gear crow posted:So I forget what happens if you clear Sector X with Slippy safe and then choose to do Titania anyway. Does the game still treat it as if Slippy’s downed? Because I know other routes have relatively minor changes if you succeed at the mission and then take the failure route option anyway, like StarWolf just not showing up at all on Bolse if you murdered the poo poo out of them on Fortuna, etc. Slippy being down *is* the plot of Titania, so it does just treat it as if he went down anyway. If Slippy is okay, the team has absolutely no reason to go to Titania at all, so there's no real way to fudge that.
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Apr 12, 2019 19:41
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BlazetheInferno posted:Slippy being down *is* the plot of Titania, so it does just treat it as if he went down anyway. If Slippy is okay, the team has absolutely no reason to go to Titania at all, so there's no real way to fudge that. Exactly. In fact, while recording I got the Mission Accomplished but diverted to Titania to continue the route, then when Fox said "I can't leave Slippy hanging!" I had to backpedal and figure out what the hell I missed.
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Apr 12, 2019 20:07
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It's called fraud. The Star Fox team just dumps Slippy on the planet as a way to squeeze a few more thousand space bux from General Pepper over their "rescue" operation.
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Apr 12, 2019 20:42
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We already committed fraud by counting blasted small asteroids in Meteo as "kills."
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Apr 12, 2019 21:45
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Look, the Cornerian Army Anti-Andross Review Board wasn't there, they don't know how many of them actually had guns and were shooting at Star Fox. They were a legitimate threat!
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Apr 12, 2019 23:20
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EponymousMrYar posted:Look, the Cornerian Army Anti-Andross Review Board wasn't there, they don't know how many of them actually had guns and were shooting at Star Fox. They were a legitimate threat! To be fair, asteroids the size of a VW Beetle are a pretty legitimate threat to a starfighter.
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Apr 13, 2019 01:24
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KieranWalker posted:To be fair, asteroids the size of a VW Beetle are a pretty legitimate threat to a starfighter. Especially that close together without pulverizing themselves to powder. Clearly Meteo is an Andross weapon.
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Apr 13, 2019 01:42
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Anyone complaining about difficulty in this game has never played the original SNES game. It makes 64 look like a joke.
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TheFattestPat posted:Anyone complaining about difficulty in this game has never played the original SNES game. It makes 64 look like a joke. I was able to break StarFox 64 over my knee after my first few loops through the game. It's been 20 years and I still can't even get past Sector X on Route 2 on the original SNES game.
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Apr 13, 2019 05:51
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Are you emulating this? I ask because it's running really well and without any of the glitches that N64 emulators usually introduce. I remember picking this up again a few years ago and being unable to get past the next stage after Titania because of those glitches.
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TheFattestPat posted:Anyone complaining about difficulty in this game has never played the original SNES game. It makes 64 look like a joke. I used to have a snes with a handful of games, super mario world, mario all stars. Sadly it all got stolen.  Except for my copy of Star Fox, for whatever reason. One day I'll finally find a SNES in a pawnshop that I can confirm is functioning. I should probably clean this cartridge. Including the marker of my name cause FAT GOOD THAT DID FOR THE OTHER SNES GAMES
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Star Fox was my first SNES game. I played it so much that I can still reliably beat any of the stages without getting owned decades later. And then when I got Lylat Wars some years later, the cycle started anew. I remember doing a dumb run through the game for the challenge thread 8 years ago. Where the challenge was to not fire on enemies until both your wings were destroyed, on expert mode. You can completely avoid the alternate vehicle levels with the right path, so no freebies. The challenging bit is that you're stuck with single laser and your aim is hosed. Also you start off with reduced health from slamming into poo poo to break your wings.
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Apr 14, 2019 13:45
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 Easy Route concludes... not that easily.
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Interesting bit of trivia for the golem boss: If you keep the fight going for about 10 minutes, a wall will appear in front of you (which the boss clips through) that you will crash into and die. But the game is nice and gives you a life right before you smack into the wall.
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First time at played this was when a friend brought it to my house. We got to Venom easily and couldn’t figure out how to beat Andross. We thought we had to do the bomb attack in his mouth, and as the fight stretched on and we farmed bombs from the rocks, we wondered if we just had to do it a certain number of times or do something while he was stunned or what. We never just shot him in the eyes before getting tired of it. On expert mode, easy Venom is the hardest level in the game IMO. Just a constant stream of lasers catching you in between barrel rolls.
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Apr 14, 2019 20:53
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Your impressions are accurate and funny. Great stuff.
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Apr 14, 2019 20:56
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Expert mode venom is spamming R just as much as A.
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Did you know that getting inhaled by Andross can't kill you? It'll bring you to 0 shields, though.
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Fun bit of trivia: If you do some dividing on the amount you're paid in the ending by the number of units you kill it turns out you're being paid 64 whatevers for every enemy you shot down.
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Add Andross to the list of bosses that terrify the poo poo out of children. Somehow the easy version is scarier than the hard version.
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chitoryu12 posted:Add Andross to the list of bosses that terrify the poo poo out of children. Somehow the easy version is scarier than the hard version. Its the deranged janky robot face after all his skin melts off that does it. Nobody's scared of a big dumb brain that just floats around the room like a doofus.
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The wobbly jobbles of Andross made him hilarious to me. Even after everything gets blown off I remember getting hit by him more because I was still laughing at the wobbly jobbles than anything else.
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nine-gear crow posted:Its the deranged janky robot face after all his skin melts off that does it. Nobody's scared of a big dumb brain that just floats around the room like a doofus. And when you're a kid in the 90s, you don't get any loving warning. There's no YouTube videos or Facebook posts to spoil it. You shoot Andross enough and suddenly there's this twitchy giant robot monkey head flying at you and trying to eat you.
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Those days you found out cheats and secrets from your one extra-nerdy friend who had Nintendo Power. Or it was just passed down through the ages. How did everyone learn IDDQD and IDKFA? The answer is lost to time. I could get every medal pretty easily (though Sector Z was still a crap shoot as we will find out), but I never learned until I decided to search YouTube for high score runs that hitting enemies with unlocked charge shots would get you more points than if you locked on, which allows optimized runs where you can get double the medal score. Apparently it is possible to get a medal on easy Venom if you do that. Dr Christmas fucked around with this message at 05:41 on Apr 15, 2019 |
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I didn't really play any N64 games until the DS/3DS era, but I've always been impressed to see how many of the games still seem to stand up. I've made a couple attempts at Starfox 64 on the Wii Virtual Console, but... playing it with a Classic Controller has not been ending well for me, and most of the stuff on YouTube has been speedrunners or high-score runs. This series is exactly what I think I needed to get back into giving it another few tries.
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I know you guys aren't huge comic fans but man I'm still shocked there wasn't a single Venom joke throughout the entire video. Not an Agent Venom or anything.chitoryu12 posted:Add Andross to the list of bosses that terrify the poo poo out of children. Somehow the easy version is scarier than the hard version. And just think, only 17 years later someone would be inspired to make Five Nights at Freddy's based on that.
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Back in this time, Nintendo didn't really have to worry too much about game reviewers missing secrets because they had their own magazine for it - Nintendo Power. The N64 era is when Nintendo really started losing their stranglehold on the market, though, so maybe other magazines didn't cover it until after Nintendo did. I wonder what the readership for Nintendo Power was compared to other gaming magazines of the time?
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The Tetris part of Venom, and the "This reminds me of your father" line are references to the Venom level from the first star fox, which was heavily constituted of incredibly dickish geometry attacks in a similar vein.
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I can't remember if I've ever even made it to Venom in the original Star Fox. Game's fuckin' hard. I have it, but I can't actually remember when the last time I played it was. S'been a few years.
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Lots of neat stuff carried over from the first game. The Venom music, the beginning of the level with Fox flying towards the ground, and then into Andross' base at the end. They aren't as talkative, but Andross has a pretty sweet line with "Your father was a reckless fighter too..." It's also one of the very few times anyone mentions James in that game. I love Area 6, but I kind of wish 64 had a second, harder Venom level like the first game had.
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