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Bobbin Threadbare posted:While modern cartoons are making 80s references the target audience won't understand, 80s cartoons were making 50s references the target audience wouldn't understand. All kids show references will always be a generation behind.
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Did..... Shredder do 9/11?
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Apr 8, 2019 05:37
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Sockser posted:Did..... Shredder do 9/11? Nah, you're thinking of the World Trade Center. Shredder just hosed up pokemon trading for a while.
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Apr 8, 2019 06:53
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https://twitter.com/NAveryW/status/1117360328289992705 https://twitter.com/AGuyWhoDraws/status/1117821131824566272
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Apr 16, 2019 05:43
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A lot of animated shows back then had more bounciness than they knew what to do with, but when they did know what to do with it, it could be impressive. I think Disney shows in particular often try to maintain some bounciness even with computer assistance, which leads to features kinda sliding around. I think sometimes shows still do hand-animated sequences now and then, but only when they want to make a point of being bombastic. Maybe you'd see more if 2D film animation was still a big thing (CGI tends to shy away from complex warping of features and squashing or stretching). Anime can be similarly expressive and lovingly crafted, but they pioneered a lot of effort-saving techniques, so they never go quite as bouncy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z30Y572EmCk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InfYWolRDk4 There's probably a lot you could also chalk down to stylistic trends changing over time. I think a lot of the 90s was riding off of a lot of money being put into kids' cartoons, and they tried (maybe too hard) to emulate the slapstick of earlier Merry Melodies and Looney Tunes, which led to a sort of overwrought surrealism as the artists drew their own stylized take on a cartoon instead of a stylized take on reality. A copy of a copy of a copy in a sense. Maybe I'm just talking out of my rear end there. I find the change of art with the times fascinating, but I don't have any real education on it.
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Apr 16, 2019 07:12
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Digamma-F-Wau posted:https://twitter.com/NAveryW/status/1117360328289992705 God I loving miss how cartoons used to look. Just the texture and aesthetics of them.
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Apr 16, 2019 07:24
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Digamma-F-Wau posted:https://twitter.com/NAveryW/status/1117360328289992705 Did this animator work on An Extremely Goofy Movie as well? The faces in that second video remind me a hell of a lot of the frat guy villain in that movie.
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Apr 16, 2019 07:35
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The feels like a ton of 90s Jim Carrey in that second one.
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Apr 16, 2019 08:26
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Also reminds me a lot of The Brave Little Toaster movies. (I had the sequels on video. And loving crazy to learn that the one where they go to Mars is apparently based on the original books)
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Apr 16, 2019 12:39
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Just got into OK K.O., which is A.O.K in my books.
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Apr 16, 2019 13:04
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Pakled posted:Did this animator work on An Extremely Goofy Movie as well? The faces in that second video remind me a hell of a lot of the frat guy villain in that movie. From the late 80's to the early 00's Disney had a bunch of satellite studios (the main ones being in Japan, Australia, and France) that mainly did work on the tv shows and dtv sequels (though the French studio got promoted to contributing animation to most of the main films from Hunchback to Treasure Planet). Both of the clips were animated at the Australian studio, which was considered to be the "zaniest" one (the shows they contributed the most to were Goof Troop, Timon & Pumbaa, Bonkers, and Quack Pack). The second clip (not sure who animated the first one) was animated by Adam Murphy, who was also one of the guys who animated Bradley from An Extremely Goofy Movie (which was animated at the Australian studio; the original Goofy Movie was animated at both the Australian and French studios) and apparently animated a bunch of scenes with the Genie in Return of Jafar and King of Thieves (which were animated at both the Australian and Japanese studios) and probably some of the Aladdin show episodes also animated there.
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SlothfulCobra posted:A lot of animated shows back then had more bounciness than they knew what to do with, but when they did know what to do with it, it could be impressive. I think Disney shows in particular often try to maintain some bounciness even with computer assistance, which leads to features kinda sliding around. I think sometimes shows still do hand-animated sequences now and then, but only when they want to make a point of being bombastic. Maybe you'd see more if 2D film animation was still a big thing (CGI tends to shy away from complex warping of features and squashing or stretching). Anime can be similarly expressive and lovingly crafted, but they pioneered a lot of effort-saving techniques, so they never go quite as bouncy. As a case example, John K (gently caress him and the ground he walks on) pretty much idolized that sort of style and considered it the epitome of animation. Anything else was garbage to him. The sort of bounce and stretch is immediately apparent in Ren & Stimpy because that's the style he believed was objectively correct and taught others to emulate. Idk about the inspiration or tendencies from other animators, but John K is definitely in that school of emulating the Looney Tunes style.
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Apr 16, 2019 16:53
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god Mako was the only good part of that show
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Apr 16, 2019 19:55
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There's also the fact that of the cartoons of the 90s, a big chunk were derived somehow off of the old 40s-50s cartoon IPs, like Tiny Toons, Goof Troop, Ducktales, Animaniacs, and a number of others. Who Framed Roger Rabbit also put forth into popular culture a weird platonic ideal of what a cartoon was, collecting and boiling down the last 50 years of animation into some basic formulae, including the weird seams from when cartoons weren't exactly children's entertainment. You can also see the weird increasing stylization of anthropomorphic characters, drifting further from any recognizable animal characteristics as they just become referential to other anthropomorphic characters, much like how many design aspects of clowns had drifted over 200 years from being their own jokes or references to becoming just what a clown is. Eventually as the industry cultivated a new crop of animation talent, they developed new styles and took new directions away from the classics.
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Apr 17, 2019 16:07
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Is Disney + putting up the old cartoon block of Gummy Bears, TaleSpin, Rescue Rangers and the like on the service?
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Apr 18, 2019 21:54
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I think the only ones confirmed are OG Ducktales and Goof Troop. Plus new Ducktales, but that's it as far as Disney TV animation, discluding Star Wars and the newer Marvel series.
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SlothfulCobra posted:There's also the fact that of the cartoons of the 90s, a big chunk were derived somehow off of the old 40s-50s cartoon IPs, like Tiny Toons, Goof Troop, Ducktales, Animaniacs, and a number of others. Who Framed Roger Rabbit also put forth into popular culture a weird platonic ideal of what a cartoon was, collecting and boiling down the last 50 years of animation into some basic formulae, including the weird seams from when cartoons weren't exactly children's entertainment. Even then some of the outliers were just taking influence from different sources; the Batman and Superman cartoons taking a lot of visual inspiration from the Fleischer shorts. And fast forward to now, and you have the latest generation of talent taking inspiration from anime because that's what they grew up with alongside cartoons. Actually does get me thinking about the directions cartoons from different networks took around then, though my idea of the timeline is pretty fuzzy and I can't be much arsed doing research atm. Who Framed Roger Rabbit does seem to have triggered renewed interest in old funny animal style cartoons, which different creators taking them in different directions; Animaniacs and its family of shows was a deliberate and obvious homage to old Looney Tunes shorts with stock characters put into various situations and settings, while Bonkers was pretty much a legally distinct adaptation of Who Framed Roger Rabbit itself, and stood out as a Disney show that draws more from Looney Tunes stylings. (Suddenly reminded of the irony that the main villain of Roger Rabbit is a toon who pretends to be a human, while the villain of the Bonkers pilot/first episode is a human who pretends to and believes himself to be a toon) Nickelodeon took a different direction with Ren and Stimpy, for better or worse, being a big influence on a lot of shows that took the exaggerated expressionistic style of Tex Avery esque cartoons to a further degree and found it paired well with the current zeitgeist of gross-out, grotesque and boundary-pushing humour. That itself seems to have gone in a few different directions, Rocko's Modern Life doing something similar but with a bent more towards social commentary. Ghost Leviathan fucked around with this message at 06:43 on Apr 19, 2019 |
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Apr 19, 2019 01:59
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that character is so grotesque and pathetic it feels like a reference to something/someone really specific that whoever created it must have loving hated like if you just described it to someone (fat rolls on top of clothes, potbelly, high pitched voice, science type saving animals against their will, immature speech patterns) it sounds like a 1990s right-wingers negative caricature of an environmentalist. it feels like a John K character popped inexplicably into a Disney 90s tv cartoon
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The Timon and Pumbaa show was really weird and pretty much a Disney attempt at Ren and Stimpy. Simba also showed up on occasion, the adult post-Lion King one, and while apparently accused of acting out of character to go along with their antics, given Timon and Pumbaa basically raised him through his adolescence, for Simba it'd be just like old times.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:The Timon and Pumbaa show was really weird and pretty much a Disney attempt at Ren and Stimpy. Simba also showed up on occasion, the adult post-Lion King one, and while apparently accused of acting out of character to go along with their antics, given Timon and Pumbaa basically raised him through his adolescence, for Simba it'd be just like old times. Lion Guard's Simba was a weird racist for the movie they did. I don't think they know how to get Simba right anymore.
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Apr 20, 2019 18:12
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What I remember most about the Timon and Pumbaa show is that I thought it had a better version of Hakuna Matata for the intro than the movie.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:The Timon and Pumbaa show was really weird and pretty much a Disney attempt at Ren and Stimpy. Simba also showed up on occasion, the adult post-Lion King one, and while apparently accused of acting out of character to go along with their antics, given Timon and Pumbaa basically raised him through his adolescence, for Simba it'd be just like old times. Look, can't a king take some time off to goof around with his foster parents for a while?
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Apr 20, 2019 23:10
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 In today's thrilling installment, a very ultimate showdown occurs.
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https://twitter.com/_alexhirsch/status/1120787686925537280
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This show sounds incredible. I have a weakness for conspiracy theories as a theme in fiction.
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Apr 24, 2019 00:16
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Hell yeah, animated Coast to Coast!
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Apr 24, 2019 03:20
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That post reminded me, whatever happened to JG Quintel's post-Regular Show show that he was supposed to do that was targeted to adults? I remember there being a trailer but I don't recall ever seeing it come out anywhere. Did it just get canned or development hell or did I just somehow miss the whole thing?
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TwoPair posted:That post reminded me, whatever happened to JG Quintel's post-Regular Show show that he was supposed to do that was targeted to adults? I remember there being a trailer but I don't recall ever seeing it come out anywhere. Did it just get canned or development hell or did I just somehow miss the whole thing? Clickbait title aside, this video shows a TBS press release from December which mentioned JG Quintel's show, Close Enough, as being "upcoming" and points out a tweet from February from someone who works on the show saying it's still in production. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3U89iM8VZk
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Apr 24, 2019 04:16
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the show's airing def got delayed: shows that people moved onto after working on Close Enough have already aired (for example, a board team on Close Enough moved onto Victor & Valentino, and that show's already airing)
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Apr 24, 2019 04:23
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Digamma-F-Wau posted:the show's airing def got delayed: shows that people moved onto after working on Close Enough have already aired (for example, a board team on Close Enough moved onto Victor & Valentino, and that show's already airing) That's definitely not a good sign. I wonder at what step of production it got held up in
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Dreamworks is apparently working on a Where's Waldo? cartoon starring Weird Al: https://screenrant.com/wheres-waldo-tv-show-cast-weird-al/
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Larryb posted:Dreamworks is apparently working on a Where's Waldo? cartoon starring Weird Al: Where's Al though
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Apr 26, 2019 19:56
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captain innocuous posted:Where's Al though No idea who he’s playing, it just lists him as one of the voice actors in the series along with Rachel Dratch and Tom Kenney.
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Apr 26, 2019 20:11
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I'm not really a fan of Weird al's voice. He's good as a guest but I find his voice grating after a while.
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If the show does anything other than Odlaw voiced by Weird Al Yankovic I'm gonna be pissed.
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Apr 26, 2019 21:43
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The Silver Snail posted:If the show does anything other than Odlaw voiced by Weird Al Yankovic I'm gonna be pissed. Based on the description, it appears that Odlaw is a girl in this series for whatever reason (and has been renamed Odlulu).
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A new CN short: https://youtu.be/vOj2DRxIn1c thelaughingman fucked around with this message at 22:43 on Apr 26, 2019 |
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Apr 26, 2019 22:40
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Larryb posted:Based on the description, it appears that Odlaw is a girl in this series for whatever reason (and has been renamed Odlulu). Do...do they not get it?
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Apr 26, 2019 22:54
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Beachcomber posted:Do...do they not get it? Well, to get past the international argument between Waldo and Wally, they've renamed the character Ululdo.
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Sneaksie Taffer posted:Well, to get past the international argument between Waldo and Wally, they've renamed the character Ululdo. Speaking of which, wasn’t he still Odlaw in the European version as well as opposed to Yllaw (I know this was the case for the original 90’s cartoon at any rate)? Though to be fair, "Odlaw" is a pretty good name in and of itself. Larryb fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Apr 27, 2019 |
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