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Gunthen posted:The truly sad thing, is that the ending to the show. Is likely the only ending we will get. Unless GRRM lives to be 120, no way he finishes the books. I dunno, this thread is proof enough that it's easy to criticize other peoples' work. I could absolutely see GRRM using the screenplay as a draft upon which he can edit.
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precision posted:Well you did imply that the scene exists solely because Arya turned 18 which is weird on many levels. That's from some TV show, isn't it? I could swear I remember a scene from Family Guy or something where they lampshade it like "All right, you're 18, you're not a precocious girl and a promising student anymore, now you're a sex object. Lemme see dem tits."
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:I think it's just a huge misreading on your part (and again, a weird mindset about young female sexuality) that made you think she was a child until you had to watch, in horror, as she engaged in sex That's not remotely what they said. Wtf??
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Basebf555 posted:Maybe "dream" isn't the right word. She's been a knight since the beginning of the show, at least in her actions. She represents all the same things that knights do, she's ferociously loyal to whoever she serves, has honor, all that stuff. But because she's a woman she was never allowed to officially have the title. So for the first time she's being properly acknowledged as the thing she's actually been all these years, and by someone she loves and respects. Not unlike her seeking validation and feeling insane pride for Renly (whom she also loved and admired) allowing her to join his Kingsguard despite being a woman. It's core to her character, and is in stark contrast to say, The Hound. They're both stories that often boil down to 'knights are loving assholes and it's all a sham' and Brienne is the one who takes that information and says 'whatever, I'll do better than all those others' while Sandor just takes the information and goes 'gently caress knighthood and gently caress everybody'. e: sandor lowkey also upholding the values of knighthood as well fwiw tho he is a big rear end about it every step of the way
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Zaphod42 posted:Terrible read. I didn't say GOT was. I said HBO was. They do show softcore porn sometimes, and other shows dabble. I did happen to notice the only show HBO currently has in their 'late night' category right now is the animated Spawn lol
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:I think it's just a huge misreading on your part (and again, a weird mindset about young female sexuality) that made you think she was a child until you had to watch, in horror, as she engaged in sex Please stop intentionally misrepresenting my posts. It's a form of lying and it makes you a bad person.
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Phenotype posted:That's from some TV show, isn't it? I could swear I remember a scene from Family Guy or something where they lampshade it like "All right, you're 18, you're not a precocious girl and a promising student anymore, now you're a sex object. Lemme see dem tits." There were gross radio morning zoo types constantly doing age 18 countdowns for Mary Kate and Ashley Olson, Britney Spears, and Lindsay Logan, iirc. It's not some new idea or anything.
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Zaphod42 posted:That's not remotely what they said. Wtf?? Midgetskydiver posted:the character's history (as a child in every season until this one) This season Arya has done two things - 1. say hi to Jon 2. flirt with and bone Gendry Are you suggesting that it was #1 that made midgetskydiver finally realize Arya was an adult?
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Apr 22, 2019 21:38
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Midgetskydiver posted:Yeah it was a complete coincidence that this happened and HBO tweeted that Arya was 18 on the day the show aired. Random chance sure is comical sometimes. That tweet was to get in front of people being stupid. That tweet is not evidence that the people making the show said "hey, Arya is 18 now right, let's get her naked" You are bring really super dense
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DrNutt posted:I did happen to notice the only show HBO currently has in their 'late night' category right now is the animated Spawn lol Yeah, they do seem to be transitioning away from it. Maybe to be taken more seriously. Also hotels advertise internet access now over hbo access, which may have had something to do with showing porn in the first place. (Doesn't show up on your hotel bill that way lol)
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:This season Arya has done two things - Neither, that's not what midgetskydiver said at all. This smells of wilfull ignorance gogogadget. You're bein weird.
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Are you suggesting that it was #1 that made midgetskydiver finally realize Arya was an adult? It was HBO's tweet about Arya being 18, but thanks for asking. I had assumed Arya was something like 16 in the show but the tweet really spelled it out for the audience I think.
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Well he can explain what he meant by "she was a child in every season until this one" then because I haven't a clue. EDIT: lol, so you literally needed it spelled out for you in a twitter tweet. Notice that many people ITT are using the word "dense" for you?
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:Lol at whoever reminded me about Gilly's baby in the book. Would have been cool to see Kit Harrington act out an action that wasn't just befuddled handsome good guy does the best he could. Be realistic, he stopped being handsome once he started wearing the man bun instead of that glorious Jon Snow mane. Also, in s1e1 in the shirtless Stark boys eye candy shaving scene, Theon jokes about Jon loving his hair more than any girl. I kinda wish they'd kept "Jon loves his hair" as a running, small character thing.
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Well he can explain what he meant by "she was a child in every season until this one" then because I haven't a clue. Stop. You're arguing in bad faith and you know it. There's no point to this. You, gogogadget, are being very dense right now.
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DrNutt posted:There were gross radio morning zoo types constantly doing age 18 countdowns for Mary Kate and Ashley Olson, Britney Spears, and Lindsay Logan, iirc. It's not some new idea or anything. Not just the concept, I could have sworn I've seen that actual scene lampshading it somewhere before, where they explicitly say "you're 18 now, you've become a sex object". I want to say Family Guy, but some sort of crude humor sitcom at least. And I remember eagerly following the Britney Spears countdown, haha. Not sure what I was excited for, though, she's a couple years older than I am anyway.
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Apr 22, 2019 21:43
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Well he can explain what he meant by "she was a child in every season until this one" then because I haven't a clue. 
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Well he can explain what he meant by "she was a child in every season until this one" then because I haven't a clue. Yes, her age was an unknown until HBO confirmed it because it didn't come up in the show. You didn't know her age prior to the tweet, so really what you're doing here is revealing yourself to be quite an idiot. She literally was a child in every season until this one, according to the show's canon.
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lol, no. I am not arguing in a manner that denies the core point of a debate. I've made it explicitly clear that anyone taking a stance beyond "well that was a little awkward" is a pearl clutching weirdo, a repressed pedophile, or both. I have not attempted to obscure this. EDIT: who gives a poo poo if she was 18.000001 years old instead of 18.5, 19, or 69 years old? Jesus you're a mess. Everyone but you knew she was A Grown rear end Woman without the tweet.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Be realistic, he stopped being handsome once he started wearing the man bun instead of that glorious Jon Snow mane. I think they ditched it to show how much responsibility he embraced. It reminded me of a Military plot, like a little nod to the beginning of Full Metal Jacket when they buzz all the recruits hair off.
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Hey guys, as the most ethical person here, I want to tell you that it's ok to be horny for Arya But as the horniest person here, I also want to tell you: lmao, why?
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ElGroucho posted:Hey guys, as the most ethical person here, I want to tell you that it's ok to be horny for Arya For real. Maisie Williams ugly AF.
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Apr 22, 2019 21:46
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:lol, no. I am not arguing in a manner that denies the core point of a debate. I've made it explicitly clear that anyone taking a stance beyond "well that was a little awkward" is a pearl clutching weirdo, a repressed pedophile, or both. Yes, you have not attempted to obscure that you are a complete rear end in a top hat throwing absurd accusations at people discussing a tv show. This has been the easiest ignore list decision in quite a while.
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ElGroucho posted:Hey guys, as the most ethical person here, I want to tell you that it's ok to be horny for Arya The first 2 episodes left people disappointed in the lack of action. The fact that only 4 episodes remain is bumming people out. So the controversy is being clung to as a distraction. Because we will never get elephants.
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Midgetskydiver posted:Yes, her age was an unknown until HBO confirmed it because it didn't come up in the show. You didn't know her age prior to the tweet, so really what you're doing here is revealing yourself to be quite an idiot. She literally was a child in every season until this one, according to the show's canon. That tweet wasn't about the show's canon, it was to try and stop a worse argument than the one we're having now. For all the show has told us, she isn't 18 yet. Hell, age of consent in half of America and much of the world is 16 or less. If you can't understand what the purpose of that tweet was then there's nothing more to say. You're just being dumb. Cheers.
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:lol, no. I am not arguing in a manner that denies the core point of a debate. I've made it explicitly clear that anyone taking a stance beyond "well that was a little awkward" is a pearl clutching weirdo, a repressed pedophile, or both. Bullshit you are. He was clear that "well that was a little awkward" was his stance and you chewed him up for it. Bullshit dude. And now you move goalposts with "well who cares if she was?" Just stop dude.
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Zaphod42 posted:Bullshit you are. He was clear that "well that was a little awkward" was his stance and you chewed him up for it. Bullshit dude. His stance was never That Was A Little Awkward though.
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:His stance was never That Was A Little Awkward though. He literally loving said that dude. You responded to it. Midgetskydiver posted:It's strange how people on one side of this discussion are continually accusing the people that disagree of being closet pedophiles and the other is simply saying a scene was somewhat distasteful given the character's history (as a child in every season until this one) on the show. gently caress off forever, Chris. He literally said "somewhat distasteful" and contrasted that with the "omg pedos" overreactions.
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precision posted:
Yeah the purpose of the tweet was to say "we've cleared the minimum bar here" to clumsily forestall any criticism of their content. I guess it worked on some people.
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Midgetskydiver posted:Yes, her age was an unknown until HBO confirmed it because it didn't come up in the show. You didn't know her age prior to the tweet, so really what you're doing here is revealing yourself to be quite an idiot. She literally was a child in every season until this one, according to the show's canon. Again, you’re now being dense. In the show it’s clearly been years of time. If you’re on your phone trying to come up with hot takes while it airs, it makes sense you didn’t notice. Also, hbo has moved away from the soft core stuff in the last few years, including removing their show about hookers at the bunny ranch from their app. As a character beat, it makes sense she wants to get boned before it’s over. You’re own seemingly bias against a young woman wanting to be sexual and then being defense about it is what some are having a hard time with.
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So which great house does everyone identify with the most? I like Tyrell. Their symbol is pretty and I dig how their shtick is being stewards of the realm, having loads of people that live decently, and their wealth is in food rather than gold or soldiers or whatever. And they dress really well, and Margaery gets some great lowkey dunks in on Cersei in the good parts of season five. Plus I get them most often in internet personality quizzes. A Tommen/Marg kingdom would have been a good place to live.
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Zaphod42 posted:He literally loving said that dude. You responded to it. You're the only one to use the word "Awkward" in 11 pages, sorry. And his post that you've quoted was just him trying to dig out of the Idiot Hole by softening his dumb, bad opinion and accusing everyone else of being Very Mean when they called him out on it.
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Midgetskydiver posted:Yes, her age was an unknown until HBO confirmed it because it didn't come up in the show. You didn't know her age prior to the tweet, so really what you're doing here is revealing yourself to be quite an idiot. She literally was a child in every season until this one, according to the show's canon. They didn't say it explicitly, but I and a lot of other viewers have had the impression that somewhere between 7-10 years have passed in universe, and there's a "1 season = 1 show year" rule of thumb that's been passed around. Maisie Williams' unique looks aside, I thought it was pretty clear that she was at least 17-18 by the time she graduates from murder school. I'm not sure why you're saying she was "literally a child in every season" when you've watched years worth of wars go on around here. People age gradually, they don't just hear a "ding" once they hit 18.
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Midgetskydiver posted:Yeah the purpose of the tweet was to say "we've cleared the minimum bar here" to clumsily forestall any criticism of their content. I guess it worked on some people. The minimum bar in much of the civilized world is not even 18 though. Again I'm just saying you're dumb for thinking that tweet is evidence that the scene exists because the show makers said or thought "she's old enough so get her tits out". That's all.
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Who is saying arya is a bad person for sleeping with the guy she's been looking at like a piece of meat since she was 14? They said they didnt want to watch her do it.
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BlackStar posted:For real. Maisie Williams ugly AF. She has a pumpkin for a head 
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Doltos posted:She has a pumpkin for a head  Fetishes colliding, HELP
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LionArcher posted:Again, you’re now being dense. In the show it’s clearly been years of time. If you’re on your phone trying to come up with hot takes while it airs, it makes sense you didn’t notice. Also, hbo has moved away from the soft core stuff in the last few years, including removing their show about hookers at the bunny ranch from their app. As a character beat, it makes sense she wants to get boned before it’s over. You’re own seemingly bias against a young woman wanting to be sexual and then being defense about it is what some are having a hard time with. Lets keep going in circles ignoring what the other person says to dunk on a strawman. This sure is productive! Its not bias. Its awkward. Arya should get to have sex. But we think its creepy to watch. How is this such a struggle for you to comprehend? None of y'all have younger siblings? Or, do you share your sex life with them? All my sisters know is "I'm seeing someone" and it would be weird to get more detailed than that.
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LionArcher posted:You’re own seemingly bias against a young woman wanting to be sexual and then being defense about it is what some are having a hard time with. What I'm being defensive about isn't even the scene, which I think is probably best described awkward (and very awkwardly acted) rather than exploitative, it's about people in this thread being such loving assholes to people. Calling people closet pedos and accusing them of being against female sexuality, that is pretty loving dumb sorry. I do think the timing is questionable, but I could be wrong on that, it's just a personal opinion.
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