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The difference is that in what you posted it's the culmination of a series of twists and betrayals and Sith scheming. Not to mention it was set up like 50 issues earlier. Part of her running motivation was she knew that she knew too much to be allowed to live. Plus the tone is really important here. With Aphra we're supposed to think "Wow, Vader sure is an rear end in a top hat, poor Aphra." The other story is all "Look how Vader's so badass to this loser."
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Or, in a slightly more pointed reading, "fangirls are not a part of this fandom."
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"if you are horny, you are NOT valid" - star wars, 2019
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feedmyleg posted:Or, in a slightly more pointed reading, "fangirls are not a part of this fandom." Like, it's directly aping Phantom of the Opera and Disney Princess stuff. It's not even remotely subtle. And honestly, the story where she uses Vader as source of inspiration and starts acting like that Sith Lord she imagines herself to be is so much more interesting and disturbing than sudden murder. As is, the story is just cheap and nasty.
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You can tell the same story but with loss.jpg, lol: It's like poetry. I was too lazy to remove the text.
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I agree with Darth Vader, 3D pigs do not belong in Star Wars.
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pospysyl posted:I agree with Darth Vader, 3D pigs do not belong in Star Wars. Vader is volcel
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As for the art looking ugly, I can't help but think that was somewhat on purpose, as the splash panels that show her imagined romantic scenarios look really gorgeous in comparison. I get that the story was probably meant to be tragic, and that by it's very nature it could never have had a happy ending. And even though the story may not have been intended that way, it doesn't change the fact that it ultimately comes off as mean-spirited and, most of all, mysogynistic. In the hands of another writer, the plot might have been salvageable. Dial up the creepy-stalkery obsessiveness in the nurse (such as her collecting Vader's surgery remains) and have her become less sympathetic and even slightly scary to the reader may have helped evade the "she's killed for being a woman" vibe. Having her boss being a woman may have helped too, seeing as how the nurse is literally the only woman in the story, and thus is in danger of being read as exemplary for women in general. Having Vader choke or otherwise kill her while in her mind her romance novel finds its (literal?) climax may have been a very dark way to go, but that probably wouldn't fly in a Disney-owned comic book. Hell, even playing the story out as it is and just letting Vader leave the chamber silently, lost in thoughts, might have implied that she is right about his loneliness and he killed her because he couldn't have anyone know his weakness. It's really mostly Vader's final line about the "garbage" that kills the whole thing. Edit: OK, this worried me. After page after page of glowing reviews (written, it's worth noting, exclusively by men), I'm glad I found some dissenting voices: https://mynockmanor.com/canon-comic-review-vader-dark-visions-3/ https://www.themarysue.com/star-wars-vader-dark-visions-problematic/ Dave Syndrome fucked around with this message at 07:49 on Apr 26, 2019 |
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he dick burned off. why he want a buncha thots all hangin off his force nutz 24/7
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I didn't get the impression from the OT that Vader was supposed to be a casual murderer or someone who kills people without a purpose. He kills people in combat or combat related situations and chokes his subordinates as a punishment. That's quite different than what's shown in the comic. Not that one is necessarily better than the other but the comic is inconsistent with his characterization in the movies. In the prequels Anakin murders people when he's angry. The ROTS murder spree was not something he really wanted to do but had to do in order to get enough dark side points to unlock force resurrection. Or at least that's the way I understood it.
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banned from Starbucks posted:he dick burned off. why he want a buncha thots all hangin off his force nutz 24/7 Mods, requesting thread title change to this as soon as possible.
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In addition to everything else, the comic is entirely without surprises. The nurse is from the start portrayed as hopelessly delusional, and the "twist" is about Vader's most obvious and shallowest trait. It's like people gushing that the final scene of Rogue One "made Vader scary again". You're telling me Vader is a scary bad guy who kills wantonly and effortlessly? Oh wow, I would never have guessed. There's two better ways you could have gone with that basic concept. You could establish the woman as an independent character and have some fun with your "Space Harley Quinn" concept, playing the character for laughs without making her basic dignity the butt of the joke. Or you could do the story sincerely and get the audience to root for the character, even though they know that it can't possibly happen without jeopardizing the movies' canon.
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Dave Syndrome posted:In the hands of another writer, the plot might have been salvageable. "If this weren't so misogynistic it wouldn't be so misogynistic!" feedmyleg fucked around with this message at 11:59 on Apr 26, 2019 |
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I didn't read the story and from what has been posted I don't feel any inclination to do so. It doesn't feel like it adds anything to the Starwars Galaxy/Darth Vader/Empire. But I do wonder, what would have happened if she was a guy with the exact same story? I think that the LGBT community would get up in arms about that.
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Chuck Wendig said he had something in mind with a Vader fanboy before Disney sacked him for antagonizing the chuds too openly. I'd expect he'd have done it more sensibly than that though.
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Even his idea seemed kinda dumb. Why would the Death Star have morgues to attend?
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It also has an orchestra, a circus and a bear show. There's a lot of space in that thing.
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YaketySass posted:Chuck Wendig said he had something in mind with a Vader fanboy before Disney sacked him for antagonizing the chuds too openly. I'd expect he'd have done it more sensibly than that though. don't we already have a vader fanboy in the form of kylo ren?
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YaketySass posted:It also has an orchestra, a circus and a bear show. There's a lot of space in that thing. YaketySass posted:It also has an orchestra, a circus and a bear show. There's a lot of space in that thing. Wrong movie dude, that’s Spaceball One.
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banned from Starbucks posted:he dick burned off. why he want a buncha thots all hangin off his force nutz 24/7 well now I'm just mad the comic didn't end with him going 'my dick burned off' and her awkwardly shuffling out of the room.
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Those comics really reinforce the theory that Star Wars fans hate Star Wars.
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weekly font posted:Those comics really reinforce the theory that Star Wars fans hate Star Wars. Well, and Star Wars fans too, apparently.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Well, and Star Wars fans too, apparently. This is much more understandable though.
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It's obviously just the writer's fetish, don't kinkshame.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Well, and Star Wars fans too, apparently. weekly font posted:This is much more understandable though. Fucken plagiarists DeimosRising posted:Star Wars fans don’t actually like Star Wars. More understandably, they don’t like Star Wars fans
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YaketySass posted:Chuck Wendig said he had something in mind with a Vader fanboy before Disney sacked him for antagonizing the chuds too openly. I'd expect he'd have done it more sensibly than that though. lol are you serious they fired him for making statements in his art that pissed off nazis? how do they still have stormtroopers in their movies then? It's all a goddamn nazi reference.
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Preston Waters posted:lol are you serious Some Disney theme park has a regular march of first order stormtroopers as part of the daily routine. Can't be overly critical of merch opportunities. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuG0qYCATCY [edit] March starts around 2:30
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Preston Waters posted:lol are you serious Not in his art, in his goddamn tweets: https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/12/17969824/star-wars-marvel-chuck-wendig-fired-tweets
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He had the unsavable combination of being an Insanely Online Twitter Man and the person who wrote this: 'The TIE wibbles and wobbles through the air, careening drunkenly across the Myrrann rooftops - it zigzags herkily-jerkily out of sight.'
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Milkfred E. Moore posted:The TIE wibbles and wobbles through the air, careening drunkenly across the Myrrann rooftops - it zigzags herkily-jerkily out of sight.' Jesus gently caress, he deserves unemployment. Not only the present-tense but the nonsense words. gently caress. Christ.
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I’m newly astonished at how bad that sentence is every time it gets posted
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https://makingstarwars.net/2019/04/huge-rumor-about-how-the-final-duel-in-star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker-plays-out/quote:The rumor is that Matt Smith isn’t Palpatine reborn or rejuvenated but a dark side acolyte.
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hahahahah gently caress that's bad
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Milkfred E. Moore posted:He had the unsavable combination of being an Insanely Online Twitter Man and the person who wrote this: 'The TIE wibbles and wobbles through the air, careening drunkenly across the Myrrann rooftops - it zigzags herkily-jerkily out of sight.' This sentence is always good for a laugh. They should write porn with that prose.
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Isn't this a redux of how Palpatine finally died in the EU?
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Yeah, but in the EU, it was a floating ball man who sacrificed himself to destroy Palpatine's soul. So, this version won't be as good.
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Rey saving the day because her convictions are so pure, she was never even tempted by darkness is an appropriate and timely message I guess. Episode IX: The Immaculate Wokeception.
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YaketySass posted:Isn't this a redux of how Palpatine finally died in the EU? Yes, so here's hoping we see this guy:  
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Gonz posted:https://makingstarwars.net/2019/04/huge-rumor-about-how-the-final-duel-in-star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker-plays-out/ Kylo + Rey: the power of Skywalker compels you!
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