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He Who Must Not Be Named is making more crazy promises for his fans to credulously repeat ahead of an expected poor quarterly report: https://www.recode.net/2019/4/23/18513045/tesla-robotaxi-earnings-elon-musk My favorite part is the end where they get some dude to say that no one believes him any more. I’m sure someone will prove that wrong shortly.
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He Can’t Be Named as a joke or because this is a safe space like the Spaceflight thread?
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Platystemon posted:He Can’t Be Named as a joke or because this is a safe space like the Spaceflight thread? musk chat was banned for a while in this thread because of all the dumb bullshit he keeps doing and the thread fights that generates MickeyFinn posted:He Who Must Not Be Named is making more crazy promises for his fans to credulously repeat ahead of an expected poor quarterly report: yeah, this is horse crap meant to sell more teslas to the starry eyed wannabe tycoon futurists who haven't yet realized musk is an egoist and tesla is a company in poor shape shambling towards a collapse. at least this article questions the hype rather than lovingly reprint it without comment Mr. Fall Down Terror fucked around with this message at 12:51 on Apr 24, 2019 |
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Apr 24, 2019 12:47
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the very reasonable and not at all pressured-to-breaking CEO https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1120801643115663360
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Apr 24, 2019 13:11
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What cars are Chrysler or Ford selling where deliveries of the car that's been paid for is 5 years late?
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I got to ride in a Model 3 a few days ago. It was the first Tesla I've ever sat it, and it was shocking how bad the interior quality was. I'm not usually OCD about that stuff, but it felt like 90s GM bad to me. Literally the glovebox didn't properly align with its hole in the dash.
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luxury handset posted:the very reasonable and not at all pressured-to-breaking CEO Lol Elon's transition to twitter anime nazi is almost complete, check his avatar. And, uh, I'd agree it's appropriate but not for the reasons he would.
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Apr 24, 2019 14:04
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holy loving poo poo when did he get an anime avatar hahahaha
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Apr 24, 2019 14:07
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He and grimes had matching anime avatars for a while iirc and that's specifically a character whose english va has recently had his years of sexual harassment catching up to him, much to the anger of a lot of anime nazis
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When did we last say Felon Musk? Too long ago that's for sure.
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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suck my woke dick posted:When did we last say Felon Musk? Too long ago that's for sure. Elon Elric, the Fullmetal Moron.
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I didn't even process that as being from Elon Musk first time I read it. I saw the anime avatar and skipped right to assuming it was some kind of generic right-wing rear end in a top hat instead of that very specific right-wing rear end in a top hat.
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Paradoxish posted:I got to ride in a Model 3 a few days ago. It was the first Tesla I've ever sat it, and it was shocking how bad the interior quality was. I'm not usually OCD about that stuff, but it felt like 90s GM bad to me. Literally the glovebox didn't properly align with its hole in the dash. Tesla interiors have been terrible since day 1. The Model S and X interiors are just as cheap and bad as the 3. I'd never own one but I'd still forgive them if that was their only problem (it is so not their only problem)
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Feinne posted:Tech Nightmares: Elon Elric, the Fullmetal Moron. Thread title please.
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Tesla spent $1.5 billion of its $3.7 billion cash reserves to see total production drop of 31% and also lost $700 million. Model S and X deliveries dropped by 50% while model 3 deliveries rose by 3%, and He Who Must Not Be Named is still predicting an increase in deliveries of 45-65% this year (its already the end of April) as compared to 2018, full autonomy and a million robot taxis on the road by mid-2020. The most incredible part is that there is no shortage of people willing to bet on Tesla. The stock price returned to $261 after the news and someone in China gave Tesla $500 million for a factory last quarter. https://qz.com/1604080/tesla-is-losing-money-at-a-frightening-pace/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tesla-earnings-fall-to-loss-of-700-million-after-two-profitable-quarters/ Edit: Weeks away from Tesla insurance, too! https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-tesla-will-offer-an-insurance-product-within-a-month-220735817.html MickeyFinn fucked around with this message at 09:02 on Apr 25, 2019 |
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Any effort by china to curry favor with Musk is going to be towards getting at SpaceX tech.
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ryonguy posted:Any effort by china to curry favor with Musk is going to be towards getting at SpaceX tech. If Tesla starts to go under, China is the likely buyer.
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Shot (screens are bad for kids): https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/26/...e®ion=Footer Chaser (Apple bans apps that attempt to limit screen time, and sub in their lovely one): https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/27/technology/apple-screen-time-trackers.html?utm_source=pocket-newtab
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Pembroke Fuse posted:Shot (screens are bad for kids): Hmm yes tech executives and silicon valley engineers, certainly the expert voices in child development we should trust. We did no screen time with my first kid and a shitload of screen time with my second and surprise, they're both fine. It's almost like a million other parenting inputs are more important than the presence of screens in their lives.
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Papercut posted:Hmm yes tech executives and silicon valley engineers, certainly the expert voices in child development we should trust. Not to mention what's actually on the screen.
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Papercut posted:Hmm yes tech executives and silicon valley engineers, certainly the expert voices in child development we should trust. n = 2 isn't really data. While I understand your skepticism, there is enough new evidence showing that apps do lead to various types of addiction... and how could they not? They're explicitly designed to be sticky (I've worked on mobile dev briefly... this was the design philosophy)... to prey on the various feedback loops that drive "engagement" (more well-known examples are microtransactions, loot boxes, etc). Add in the fact that the lymbic system, which is responsible for taking risky behavior finishes developing by puberty, while the prefrontal cortex which is responsible for executive function and long-term decision-making only finishes developing by the age of 25... and you get a pretty (intentionally) terrible mix. I know your kids matter to you more than some kind of study and things like addictive behavior won't necessarily manifest in everyone... but there is enough evidence to suggest that apps designed explicitly for addiction are having negative behavioral effects.
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Cool how you assume anything that is being done on a "screen" is some sort of addictive app.
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Pembroke Fuse posted:n = 2 isn't really data. Screen time != Apps The idea of letting any child play with 'apps' is different than other behavior that can also lead to addiction is weird to me as well. I get most parents aren't digitally literate, but these studies seem like alarmist crap with no way to actually replicate the data or falsify it. As is the case with most psych studies.
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Pembroke Fuse posted:n = 2 isn't really data. Neither is the n=10 or whatever they rely on for the NY Times article. I'm not even opposed to the idea that screen time is bad for kids, but that article is just clickbait trash.
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Screen time is already a useless concept outside of being a puritan scold to be quite honest. It's not like there's really a unity of experiences between playing a bad game vs watching an episode of some kids show vs reading about dinosaurs for school, even though they're all things a kid might do. Since it's 21st century they're going to do all of those on a screen at some point.
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Pembroke Fuse posted:Shot (screens are bad for kids): It's interesting how this isn't any sort of study that is listing any sort of actual negative effects, just some random list of tech industry people who have any sort of limit on any sort of technology recast into "these guys KNOW SOMETHING". Even the random researcher that is the closest thing to an expert the article cites allows screens on car and plane rides and the most specific thing they say about their rules is that it's soften to allow the kids to watch one movie a week.
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I'm basically with Pembroke Fuse, though I could be wrong. I would definitely take "good" parents who let their kids go nuts on phones/tablets over "bad" parents (not even neglectful or abusive, just amorphously bad examples, bad priorities, bad emotional control etc.) who are strict about screen time. But I do think getting locked into that narrow reward spin cycle that screens tend to deal in is pretty common, and it's probably not great for development. I think a little exposure is probably good or at least harmless, though.
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The "addiction = bad" mindset is a slippery slope to "things that make you feel good = bad", which is how you get bans on music, movies, extra-marital sex, etc.
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qkkl posted:The "addiction = bad" mindset is a slippery slope to "things that make you feel good = bad", which is how you get bans on music, movies, extra-marital sex, etc. This is incredibly stupid, and you should be ashamed. Unfortunately, we all know you aren't capable of it.
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:This is incredibly stupid, and you should be ashamed. Unfortunately, we all know you aren't capable of it. The article counts movies as screen time explicitly and the dad restricts them heavily
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tv time was quite restricted in my childhood (about an hour in the evenings, no more) in the 90's and as an adult i gotta say i'm quite happy with not being able to relate to waxing nostalgic about pokemon and saturday morning cartoons entertainment is bad, folks. e: like seriously, i'm not even really joking, the internet turning from everyone having their own lovely geocities page to a place where big corporations tell you which content you should consume is incredibly sad TheFluff fucked around with this message at 00:12 on Apr 29, 2019 |
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:The article counts movies as screen time explicitly and the dad restricts them heavily And how does this make his comment any less stupid?
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if you support raising taxes on the rich you should also support banning concerts with more than 80 people in the audience e: i could stretch to allowing some more people if the band is very big. gotta be proportional here.
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TheFluff posted:tv time was quite restricted in my childhood (about an hour in the evenings, no more) in the 90's and as an adult i gotta say i'm quite happy with not being able to relate to waxing nostalgic about pokemon and saturday morning cartoons East answer. Don't watch things you don't want to. You don't have to watch what they recommend you know. Also lolling at the idea that entertainment itself is somehow bad.
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:East answer. Don't watch things you don't want to. You don't have to watch what they recommend you know. okay fine mass entertainment is bad some story tellers (musicians, actors, painters, ...) are better than others but they're not millions of times better, so they don't deserve an audience a million times bigger. since we can't tax cultural output we need to balkanize the entertainment industry and spread the production of entertainment out. ya dig? e: i'm not trolling by the way, i'm fully capable of convincing at least myself about this
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the hipsters were right all along, but for the wrong reasons e: let a thousand flowers bloom, in the words of chairman mao TheFluff fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Apr 29, 2019 |
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Chairman mao good, entertainment bad.
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TheFluff posted:tv time was quite restricted in my childhood (about an hour in the evenings, no more) in the 90's and as an adult i gotta say i'm quite happy with not being able to relate to waxing nostalgic about pokemon and saturday morning cartoons This is exactly the sort of attitude I'm talking about with puritanism and screens. It's the "I was beaten as a kid and I turned out fine" of technology. Also christ dude I guess they didn't let you touch the internet as a kid either because most people didn't have or read those individual sites back in the day as their primary thing. They went to big corporate sites like CNN or newspaper sites, they went through various "portal" websites with the content curated by a big company like AOL or the local ISP. The time when everything online was super small time was the time when it had just become legal to offer internet access directly to people who weren't already associated with a college, research institution, government, or defense contractor of some sort. It's also when the vast majority of the population often didn't even have a computer, much less a connection, and they instead consumed those evil devils of TV and radio.
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while we're on the subject: there's lots of talk about demographic representation in fiction these days but why aren't people complaining more about how half of all popular stories are built around a hero of some kind? this is how you get people thinking that steve loving jobs invented the iPhone or whatever the gently caress. ban stories with heroes in them. stories should be about cooperation. Owlofcreamcheese posted:Chairman mao good, entertainment bad. 
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