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Dolphin posted:winterfell is also cold as all gently caress, for all we know the ground temperature is just slightly above freezing or even freezing most of the time No, it's the warmest place in the North because of its hot springs
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mary had a little clam posted:"I too would rather drag out a motivation-less nightking zombie horde instead of ending on the interpersonal tension and emotional conflict that represents the show at it's best." Yeah but they should have dezombiefied the show like 5 episodes ago at the minimum.
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For what it's worth, I actually liked how Arya took him down. Dany, John, and Theon all try to take him down through brute force and fail. Whereas Arya kills him with sleight of hand.
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Vintersorg posted:Great episode minus not being able to see poo poo. Made even worse with the loving grey all over. I still have a plasma TV so the blacks were deep and some scenes were just darkness with no details. Yeah the dragon fight was basically a monochrome mess. Too much color grading to tell which dragon is which. The first half was pretty good about establishing locations but halfway through it got kinda dark and messy.
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Apr 29, 2019 04:31
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Are Sam and Gilly both dead?
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mary had a little clam posted:"I too would rather drag out a motivation-less nightking zombie horde instead of ending on the interpersonal tension and emotional conflict that represents the show at it's best." You're forgetting that the "interpersonal tension and emotional conflict" also represents the show at its absolute, gutter trash, worst
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Its Coke posted:Are Sam and Gilly both dead? No one is dead.
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Timeless Appeal posted:For what it's worth, I actually liked how Arya took him down. Dany, John, and Theon all try to take him down through brute force and fail. Whereas Arya kills him with sleight of hand. She just needed to expose where he was initially stabbed with the stone by the forest people, I’m guessing
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Scooter_McCabe posted:As for all the arm chair generals talking about how they could command the armies of the living better they are all forgetting one thing: Nothing punishes the undead like a modified Oldsmobile Cutlass. Delta 88.
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Zotix posted:I just can't believe that not a single major character died in this episode, yeah we lost some supporting characters, but gently caress. The last time a death really felt visceral was what, maybe season 4 with the Viper eating it. Sure Jon died in 6, but we all knew his rear end was coming back. Another example of a twist death that made sense in retrospect! Viper man is super conceited, and the Mountain is a savage monster, so of course Viper gets knocked down and the Mountain punctures his grape of a head. Only surprising because we expect and want the good looking and charismatic people to win.
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Apr 29, 2019 04:32
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Positives taken away from this episode: 1. this would have been more ridiculous if there wasn't the show and we needed to wait 17 more years for the books for this ending to that poo poo 2. that's literally it there is no 2.
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Apr 29, 2019 04:32
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Everyone, just be glad that dragon fire didn't kill the night king, that would have been a bummer.
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Zaphod42 posted:Yeah the dragon fight was basically a monochrome mess. Too much color grading to tell which dragon is which. I have some inside info but watch this episode again in a few months.
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AnEdgelord posted:You're forgetting that the "interpersonal tension and emotional conflict" also represents the show at its absolute, gutter trash, worst Nah, that's just not true.
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wilderthanmild posted:Did any dothraki survive that initial charge? I feel like I remember seeing some staggering back, but it was all so chaotic after that. Yeah, it showed a few. Didn't notice any after that unless they were getting revived by the NK. I watched it with my parents at their house which was a mistake since they have an "HD" package for their 4K TV that I think only gets stuff as high as 720p transmitted to them so it looked like a blurry pixellated mess.
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Sydin posted:Also maybe I'm misremembering my lore but wasn't Valarian Steel's whole thing that it was forged in dragon fire? Also isn't the whole point of "dragon glass" that it's obsidian and thus also forged in fire? Why would the Night King be vulnerable to either of those but not to actual dragon fire itself? ...huh. wait, yeah?! So dragon fire straight from the tap of a fire breathing dragon who breathes magic fire is totally useless but a single stab with magic metal and oops you won the war? I don't follow that internal logic
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Majorian posted:This. Everyone who didn't like this episode needs to remember that GRRM isn't as good a writer as they remember when they were teens reading the first couple books. The Starks no longer believe in white walkers, only the wildlings still burn the dead. Remember, that's why Ned executes the "deserter" who saw a walker in s1e1.
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dumb question but the song that was playing in the last 5 minutes or so, is that one we've heard before? it sounded incredibly familisr but i couldnt place it
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Plan Z posted:Yeah, it showed a few. Didn't notice any after that unless they were getting revived by the NK. I watched it with my parents at their house which was a mistake since they have an "HD" package for their 4K TV that I think only gets stuff as high as 720p transmitted to them so it looked like a blurry pixellated mess. a lot of it was a pixellated blurry mess. Tight shots in the dark. Anything else would be avengers end game money.
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Zaphod42 posted:The Starks no longer believe in white walkers, only the wildlings still burn the dead. I'm talking about even in the last season or two. Jon and Sansa had plenty of time.
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Timeless Appeal posted:For what it's worth, I actually liked how Arya took him down. Dany, John, and Theon all try to take him down through brute force and fail. Whereas Arya kills him with sleight of hand. I'll actually buy that as a semi-decent explainer for that scene. I would have much preferred it if we had seen Arya making her way from Point A to Point B, though, rather than her being gone for basically all of the last 20 minutes. Just so it didn't feel as out of left field.
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Xanderkish posted:I'll actually buy that as a semi-decent explainer for that scene. I do agree with this, and I love the idea of her face-swapping with one of the ancillary White Walkers to stick NK.
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Apr 29, 2019 04:35
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Dany spent 5 seasons building an army of Dothraki and Unsullied and they lasted all of ten minutes
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Apr 29, 2019 04:35
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tin can made man posted:...huh. wait, yeah?! So dragon fire straight from the tap of a fire breathing dragon who breathes magic fire is totally useless but a single stab with magic metal and oops you won the war? I don't follow that internal logic you dont follow the logic of "its magic brah"?
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Apr 29, 2019 04:35
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mary had a little clam posted:"I too would rather drag out a motivation-less nightking zombie horde instead of ending on the interpersonal tension and emotional conflict that represents the show at it's best." I have no problem with the episode as a whole or the fact that the Night King died and the zombies are gone. It's just the way he died was really stupid.
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Sydin posted:Also maybe I'm misremembering my lore but wasn't Valarian Steel's whole thing that it was forged in dragon fire? Also isn't the whole point of "dragon glass" that it's obsidian and thus also forged in fire? Why would the Night King be vulnerable to either of those but not to actual dragon fire itself? Reasons!!
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as per standard battle scene fare i'm expecting a poo poo ton more of the army survived than it looked like. like probably got cut in half, the rest bravely ran out the back door to regroup and they would have been back if arya didn't spoil the fun for everyone
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Majorian posted:Nah, that's just not true. 'Oh boy I sure love distracting from Hardhome, Mance Rayder, and literally everything that happens north of the wall with another episode of the Sand Snakes, Arya's faceless men training, and Shae" see I can do it too
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Its Coke posted:Are Sam and Gilly both dead? remember when jon saw sam getting zerged by zombies and did nothing then in a different scene sam was back against the wall with brienne and jamie just getting squeezed
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mary had a little clam posted:"I too would rather drag out a motivation-less nightking zombie horde instead of ending on the interpersonal tension and emotional conflict that represents the show at it's best." except theres nothing interpersonal or emotional about cersei v daenarys, both of those characters suck and are boring
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Apr 29, 2019 04:36
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Endgame + this episode in the same weekend is bad rear end af
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:I have no problem with the episode as a whole or the fact that the Night King died and the zombies are gone. It's just the way he died was really stupid. And that was always the problem with the zombie army story
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FizFashizzle posted:remember when jon saw sam getting zerged by zombies and did nothing "Sorry Sam, I gotta go save Bran!" *Ignores Bran to try and 1v1 a zombie dragon for no reason.*
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Majorian posted:I'm talking about even in the last season or two. Jon and Sansa had plenty of time. Yeah that's just sloppy. I mean when they hit phase 2 of the battle everybody was screaming "man the walls! Gogogogo!" If the walls aren't already manned at that point, every single person in charge absolutely loving sucks at their job. Wtf??? They planned for falling back but then they sat around not doing anything, with nobody on the walls??? Just doesn't make sense. Entirely for the audience's benefit / fake tension.
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dumb parts: Arya and Hound cowards and the library stuff Bran warging into a few ravens, warg into a dragon you stupid cripple lighting/effects that made everyone hate their televisions dragon fights were confusing cool parts: Mellisandre = MVP The whole start of the battle was a fun horror movie Lady mormont Night king zombie stuff is over, back to gaming over throneses
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Bip Roberts posted:No one is dead. I'm pretty sure I saw Gilly getting dragged off in the crypts
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:I have no problem with the episode as a whole or the fact that the Night King died and the zombies are gone. It's just the way he died was really stupid. There's no good or satisfying way to defeat him. He's the champion of the god of death with an infinite dead army fighting a bunch of jackass kids with, like, 20 Good Men.
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AnEdgelord posted:'Oh boy I sure love distracting from Hardhome, Mancy Rayder, and literally everything that happens north of the wall with another episode of the Sand Snakes, Arya's faceless men training, and Shae" Mmmm yes, that's everything that could be described as "interpersonal drama" in this story. I am undone. 
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wyoak posted:I can’t think of a way for him to die that wouldn’t be stupid given what they’ve established about him arguably the only tv show that didnt end in a way that pissed someone off was breaking bad.
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Episode had a lot of awesome moments. Dothraki lights going out. Rezzing all the dead people. Mormont girl. Dragon getting zombie swarmed and then RAINING ZOMBIES Arya somehow sprinting through an entire undead army is dumb even if I do admit i was not expecting her to anime teleport behind the night king. so it was kinda bad rear end at least. But the worst part was Bran. What a waste of a loving character arc. Whats his point? He didn't do anything! All that build up and backstory and nothing happens lol. Like, what would even happen of the night king succeeded in killing the 3 eyed raven? He better serve some kind of purpose in the end.
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