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I still fight the good fight every day and have donated about 30mins of neighborhood cleanup
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America has been built around the automobile for almost a century now, cars are going to be the primary method of transit for decades to come regardless of wether or not people want that to change, and a lot of people do not want that to change. I think the best we can hope for is a fast transition to electric vehicles powered completely by nuclear and renewables, and even that is a long shot.
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It would take abuses of executive power and war economy-scale mobilization to fix the problem and the chances of those things happening are not high. I suggest doing some outdoorsy activities and enjoying Earth while it still somewhat exists.
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Apr 30, 2019 06:01
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Apr 30, 2019 09:49
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My municipal government holds most meetings on Wednesdays, and that's my drinking day. Now there is an obvious solution here, but I've been somewhat reticent to choose it.
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Apr 30, 2019 12:16
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Resources exist to be consumed. And consumed they will be, if not by this generation then by some future. By what right does this forgotten future seek to deny us our birthright? None I say! Let us take what is ours, chew and eat our fill.
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Apr 30, 2019 12:23
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Addamere posted:Absolutely drink. Absolutely do not take up arms against wealthy humans who have names and addresses. every time this gets suggested, we get told we're crazy though, I'm pretty sure humanity just wants to commit mass suicide.
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Mordor She Wrote posted:every time this gets suggested, we get told we're crazy though, I'm pretty sure humanity just wants to commit mass suicide. no one wants to exist
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Apr 30, 2019 17:13
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Gareth Gobulcoque posted:My municipal government holds most meetings on Wednesdays, and that's my drinking day. Now there is an obvious solution here, but I've been somewhat reticent to choose it. Drink at the meetings.
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Apr 30, 2019 17:17
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Addamere posted:If idiot rich people can and do routinely go cluelessly splashing around in it and come out fine then the ocean is probably safe. Followup to this. I splashed around in the ocean for a bit, and I was not attacked by Cthulhu or Jaws. The ocean may have been a bath tub, however.
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Taintrunner posted:-the Hamptons are not a defensible position what was the south america one
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Budget Dracula posted:what was the south america one I've never been able to find it but the references are always to a blogger who did a whole series on his experience with the Argentinian collapse Wrt bunkers, bunkers just got raided.
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fat bossy gerbil posted:America has been built around the automobile for almost a century now, cars are going to be the primary method of transit for decades to come regardless of wether or not people want that to change, and a lot of people do not want that to change. I think the best we can hope for is a fast transition to electric vehicles powered completely by nuclear and renewables, and even that is a long shot. you're still stuck in a consumer-capitalism/american-political-circus frame of reference, and in that frame of mind you're right, consumers would never voluntarily choose these things and voters would never voluntarily vote for them. but that end-of-history everything-is-accounted-for frame of reference is out of date now. the droughts, the wildfires, the famines, the fighting, the hurricanes, the mudslides, the heat waves, the floods and above all else the refugees will only keep escalating every year. the questions aren't going to be "should we force podunk nowheresville to run a few busses" its going to be "do we let the slumdwellers and the tent city people vote in the local elections" and "what do we do about all these people on electric bikes getting run down every other loving day" point is a large portion, if not the majority, of the change thats coming soon will not be opt-in stuff
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StabbinHobo posted:you're still stuck in a consumer-capitalism/american-political-circus frame of reference, and in that frame of mind you're right, consumers would never voluntarily choose these things and voters would never voluntarily vote for them. What makes you think we won't just kill or imprison and enslave new problematic populations like we have in the past?
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  Stood three feet from this majestic creature yesterday, no crowds, just me and him alone and eyeing each other for half an hour. That was a religious experience. What a crime we're committing upon this world. 
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https://twitter.com/crampell/status/1123287289097064451?s=21 not really going to move the needle but still a modest piece of good news
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Addamere posted:What makes you think we won't just kill or imprison and enslave new problematic populations like we have in the past?
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Accretionist posted:I've never been able to find it but the references are always to a blogger who did a whole series on his experience with the Argentinian collapse They're talking about Fernando Aguirre. He published his experiences with the 2001 economic collapse in Argentina as a middle class guy on the ground and now runs a blog peddling affiliate links to prepper types. He's far from a definitive source on the rural experience. That said there's a bazillion true crime videos on youtube from the parts of Brazil that are basically living what we would describe as 'collapse' right now and a common thread is that if you have valuables and don't have a community-based security solution, someone will come by to relieve you of them while you beg to not get stabbed.
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Apr 30, 2019 20:07
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Friends are op, nerf community bonuses
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Admiral Ray posted:Drink at the meetings. That's the obvious solution, yeah.
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Jakarta alone will produce like 10 million refugees and it sinking into the sea isn't even fully climate related, god only knows how many are gonna be produced from all the rest of the coasts out there. Minus those who get shot by the inevitable fascist response we're probably looking at well over a billion people depending on how many cut and run now. A quick search tells me like 40% of the population lives along a coast. Gonna be great times.
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yeah I just saw they are moving the Indonesian capital but I'm not sure where or what the timetable is. so most of the metropolis will just be abandoned?
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actionjackson posted:yeah I just saw they are moving the Indonesian capital but I'm not sure where or what the timetable is. so most of the metropolis will just be abandoned? It won't be abandoned in any sort of neat or organized way but it will be abandoned. Jakarta is doomed and it's one of the earlier places to go.
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what about Singapore? though they have a poo poo ton of money. other coastal capitals I'm noticing are Bangkok and Yangon. Dhaka is pretty far inland.
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Accretionist posted:I've never been able to find it but the references are always to a blogger who did a whole series on his experience with the Argentinian collapse Also, a gently caress ton of suicides during the time were from the bunker dwellers and other survivalist types too from what I recall. Turns out that despite it being pretty easy to delude yourself into believing you're some tiny god of capitalism or above the masses when things are going fine it's mostly actually a conceit of people who never actually had to consider what happens when they can't dip back into the plebeian masses for the social contact they need to not go insane from what is essentially stupidity and selfishness imposed prison style solitary confinement.
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actionjackson posted:what about Singapore? though they have a poo poo ton of money. other coastal capitals I'm noticing are Bangkok and Yangon. Dhaka is pretty far inland. this is Dhaka from space:  it's pretty far inland but it's on a river delta and the entire city is flat and close to sea level, just like the rest of bangladesh when you see those "this is what Earth looks like with X metres higher sea levels" the country of Bangladesh is just gone
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lmao theres a bipartisan effort to institute a weak-as-poo poo carbon tax in exchange for making corporations immune to legal liability for destroying the planet https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/may/01/microsoft-joins-group-seeking-to-avoid-climate-change-lawsuit
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vyelkin posted:lmao theres a bipartisan effort to institute a weak-as-poo poo carbon tax in exchange for making corporations immune to legal liability for destroying the planet lmao, the proposal is for $40/ton, while quote:A landmark report by the UN last year estimated that governments would need to impose carbon prices of $135 to $5,500 per ton by 2030 to help avoid disastrous climate change, with this figure ballooning out to $27,000 a ton by the end of the century. $27k a ton hahaha it's unbelievable how hosed we are
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Agronox posted:https://twitter.com/crampell/status/1123287289097064451?s=21 Isnt Bitcoin mining completely wiping out any positive changes from green energy? I seem to remember reading that. It seems a little on the nose from the writers, having the planet destroyed by what is effectively "libertarian bullshit" somehow made into an incarnate ephemeral force.
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One More Fat Nerd posted:Isnt Bitcoin mining completely wiping out any positive changes from green energy? I seem to remember reading that. It seems a little on the nose from the writers, having the planet destroyed by what is effectively "libertarian bullshit" somehow made into an incarnate ephemeral force. no and there's an important lesson here, do not get your news or understanding of the world from "some article" that went viral on the internet
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Doesn't mean Bitcoin isn't terrible for the environment.
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One More Fat Nerd posted:Isnt Bitcoin mining completely wiping out any positive changes from green energy? I seem to remember reading that. It seems a little on the nose from the writers, having the planet destroyed by what is effectively "libertarian bullshit" somehow made into an incarnate ephemeral force. Bitcoin mining won't exist in five or ten years, renewable generating stations will.
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Permafrost collapse is accelerating carbon releasequote:But models are ignoring an even more troubling problem. Frozen soil doesn’t just lock up carbon — it physically holds the landscape together. Across the Arctic and Boreal regions, permafrost is collapsing suddenly as pockets of ice within it melt. Instead of a few centimetres of soil thawing each year, several metres of soil can become destabilized within days or weeks. The land can sink and be inundated by swelling lakes and wetlands. 
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edit: sorry don't have time to nail down the napkinmath i had here
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We should carefully analyse this information, then disregard it and continue rushing headlong into and through the anthropocene extinction.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVnsxUt1EHY hell yeah david narrating a disaster porn movie
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vyelkin posted:lmao theres a bipartisan effort to institute a weak-as-poo poo carbon tax in exchange for making corporations immune to legal liability for destroying the planet That's fine I'll just parade Gates' head around on my war rig instead. Like a hood ornament. e: "Not only do we not consider externalities in our business transactions but we want to be legally in the clear for any liabilites that arise as a result of our negligence and pursuit of profits above all else." Get hosed these people are worse than the nazis
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Why would the companies producing the oil be more liable than the companies burning it?
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gently caress David Attenborough. He wants to euthanize/sterilize Africans and all these new docs are to shill for #GreenNewDeal #NewDealforNature #XR #ExtinctionRebellion You all should have read this by now.
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