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kofi and the team behind his reign have all been very uninteresting. he should have won the championship belt and then relinquished it and retired, and wwe should have closed down. i may be having a chat in a thread that isn't about that sort of thing, but i am still posting in the correct thread! 
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I wonder what reasons will be given if the ratings still continue to tank once the belt is on Roman.
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TV Zombie posted:I wonder what reasons will be given if the ratings still continue to tank once the belt is on Roman. the damage was done, obviously, the lack of roman lost everyone's interest and you just... can't get it back, not even with roman should have had the belt on roman, forever and he should have been louder, angrier, and had access to a time machine
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I've never understood the idea of watching a show based on who the champion is - it's a three-hour show on which the champ might feature for like, at most, a half hour. Or not at all, in cases like Lesnar. There's so much more going on, why is that a dealbreaker?
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mactheknife posted:I've never understood the idea of watching a show based on who the champion is - it's a three-hour show on which the champ might feature for like, at most, a half hour. Or not at all, in cases like Lesnar. There's so much more going on, why is that a dealbreaker? The champion is ostensibly the biggest star, and people watch TV and sport based on who the biggest star is. For more hardcore wrestling fans it might just be they want to give more support when someone they like is champion, since large parts of wrestling fandom for some reason actually believe that the company listens to the fans outside a few isolated scraps thrown their way occasionally.
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May 3, 2019 15:57
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mactheknife posted:I've never understood the idea of watching a show based on who the champion is - it's a three-hour show on which the champ might feature for like, at most, a half hour. Or not at all, in cases like Lesnar. There's so much more going on, why is that a dealbreaker? When done right things will involve that champion throughout the 3 hrs. in the good old days wrestlers were friends who helped each other or enemies who hindered each other even when they weren't directly involved with each other.
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mactheknife posted:I've never understood the idea of watching a show based on who the champion is - it's a three-hour show on which the champ might feature for like, at most, a half hour. Or not at all, in cases like Lesnar. There's so much more going on, why is that a dealbreaker? Because the business model is still stuck in the idea that the product is a card and not a show
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njsykora posted:The champion is ostensibly the biggest star, and people watch TV and sport based on who the biggest star is. For more hardcore wrestling fans it might just be they want to give more support when someone they like is champion, since large parts of wrestling fandom for some reason actually believe that the company listens to the fans outside a few isolated scraps thrown their way occasionally. I don't know anyone who watches sports because of the biggest star. I watch sports because I like the competition and I guess also because I want to see my team win. Everyone I know watches for pretty much the same reason.
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May 3, 2019 17:11
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RenegadeStyle1 posted:I don't know anyone who watches sports because of the biggest star. I watch sports because I like the competition and I guess also because I want to see my team win. Everyone I know watches for pretty much the same reason. Wrestling isn't sports though, its performance
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May 3, 2019 17:15
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RenegadeStyle1 posted:I don't know anyone who watches sports because of the biggest star. I watch sports because I like the competition and I guess also because I want to see my team win. Everyone I know watches for pretty much the same reason. You don't know anyone who watched a Ronda Rousey, Conor McGregor, or Floyd Mayweather fight, but not the latest UFC or boxing events?
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May 3, 2019 17:16
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RenegadeStyle1 posted:I don't know anyone who watches sports because of the biggest star. I watch sports because I like the competition and I guess also because I want to see my team win. Everyone I know watches for pretty much the same reason. They already have those people. They’re trying to get people who don’t already engage with it. Stars do that. Pretty simple.
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rare Magic card l00k posted:You don't know anyone who watched a Ronda Rousey, Conor McGregor, or Floyd Mayweather fight, but not the latest UFC or boxing events? Or people who stopped watching Nascar because Dale Jr retired.
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May 3, 2019 17:27
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RenegadeStyle1 posted:I don't know anyone who watches sports because of the biggest star. I watch sports because I like the competition and I guess also because I want to see my team win. Everyone I know watches for pretty much the same reason. My dad stopped watching the NBA when Michael Jordan retired (second time)
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Smoking Crow posted:My dad stopped watching the NBA when Michael Jordan retired (second time) My stepdad stopped watching football when Peyton Manning retired, so I kind of get it. I've just never thought of wrestling in the same way.
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RenegadeStyle1 posted:I don't know anyone who watches sports because of the biggest star. Lmao
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May 3, 2019 17:44
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You could just, uh, look at all the people that stopped watching wrestling when Stone Cold and The Rock were gone.
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VJeff posted:You could just, uh, look at all the people that stopped watching wrestling when Stone Cold and The Rock were gone. Yeah, but I think not watching anymore when a wrestler leaves isn't the same thing as not watching when a guy you don't like/don't care as much about is the champion. This is kind of a derail, my bad. I've just never understood the mindset of turning it off when a guy you like isn't holding the title.
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The champion is supposed to be the protagonist or the main antagonist of the promotion, WWE doesn't book it this way anymore
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RenegadeStyle1 posted:I don't know anyone who watches sports because of the biggest star. I watch sports because I like the competition and I guess also because I want to see my team win. Everyone I know watches for pretty much the same reason. I promise you know a lot of "New England Patriots fans" who will stop following the NFL within a calendar year of old man Tom Brady retiring or dying (whichever comes first because both are as likely to happen at this point)
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https://twitter.com/robohump/status/1124548110154383362 the scare quotes around "reporter" are killing me
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Big Dave posted:https://twitter.com/robohump/status/1124548110154383362 https://twitter.com/robohump/status/1124556672255561728?s=20
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Jerusalem posted:In a thread designed to showcase stupid wrestling fan opinions, that legitimately might be the stupidest That's beyond stupid and straight into insane "defend WWE and their business practices at any cost" territory.
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May 4, 2019 14:24
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Well this is about to get put to the test, since Roman's on Raw monday.
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I'm as sick of talking about Montreal as anyone else but the hits just keep coming https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1125145265080373248
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That's about on par with Velveteen Dream trying to pull some 'we're entertainers so not getting healthcare or employee benefits is fine' crap without realising that if wrestlers were actually considered actors or stunt performers, they'd get treated a hell of a lot better because they'd be SAG-AFTRA members.
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Doesn't the Rock have a clause in his movie contracts saying that he gets to bring in his own guys to do script rewrites?
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I’ve never heard that about the Rock, but Will Smith that so it’s certainly not unheard of.
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Edward Norton is notorious for strong-arming his way into script rewrites and the editing room and basically acting as his own director on set, which is part of why he got booted from Marvel after just one movie.
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Dave Meltzer got some kind of monkey paw deal where he will live as long as people ask stupid questions about Montreal.
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Vandar posted:Doesn't the Rock have a clause in his movie contracts saying that he gets to bring in his own guys to do script rewrites? Bruce WIllis definitely did this on Die Hard IV
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MassRafTer posted:Dave Meltzer got some kind of monkey paw deal where he will live as long as people ask stupid questions about Montreal. Between that and the rage from his star ratings on Tokyo Dome matches Dave should be able to live forever
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Bruce WIllis definitely did this on Die Hard IV Kevin Smith told a story about it that was pretty wild.
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VJeff posted:Kevin Smith told a story about it that was pretty wild. Yes indeed, that was my source
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https://twitter.com/madolenlenoir/status/1125052321707319296
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That take is just as dumb as the spelling of "Madolen"
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Jerusalem posted:In a thread designed to showcase stupid wrestling fan opinions, that legitimately might be the stupidest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PosBEPAVH_M&t=44s
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Yes, the SJW Agenda will ruin AEW, just like they did Star Wars and Captain Marvel, each of which made a LITERAL billion dollars.
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