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Evernoob posted:Would the protomolecule, which came from *outthere*, have formed a gate in our solar system anyway if there wasn't any sentient life in it to mess with it? I think the idea is that it would have built the gate and the race that built it would have colonised our solar system for themselves. What it probably wouldn't have done is given a poo poo about what happened to its creators, or made the investigator, if it wasn't for the sentience it picked up. While trying to build the gate, it picked up the tools to achieve much more and has enough awareness to realise that it needs to expand beyond its original design. It's a pretty cool rogue AI concept, rather than the standard "kill everyone" thing that tends to happen when all powerful AIs accidentally become concious in most sci-fi settings.
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Chalks posted:I think the idea is that it would have built the gate and the race that built it would have colonised our solar system for themselves. What it probably wouldn't have done is given a poo poo about what happened to its creators, or made the investigator, if it wasn't for the sentience it picked up. While trying to build the gate, it picked up the tools to achieve much more and has enough awareness to realise that it needs to expand beyond its original design. TBF it's still "kill everything," but because it wants to turn us into infrastructure than because it irrationally hates life.
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the pm creators were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should.
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Madurai posted:TBF it's still "kill everything," but because it wants to turn us into infrastructure than because it irrationally hates life. Well, kind of - but it also advocated for humanity when the nucleus wanted to destroy the solar system. Maybe it had it's own reasons for doing this but hey, it counts for something
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Madurai posted:TBF it's still "kill everything," but because it wants to turn us into infrastructure than because it irrationally hates life. Well it only ever needed enough mass to make the gate. I think, if it had crashed into Earrh, it still would've stopped the work when it was done.
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ZorajitZorajit posted:Does it seem at all odd that they would just be searching for raw materials? They apparently have access to dozens of star systems, what resources don't they have? Presumably, there's no FTL without the gate system, right? So as they are getting started, they fling out maybe hundreds of thousands of protomolecule probes, thinking that a few thousand or so will be successful. Clearly, like with the sol system, some can be unsuccessful. Or take a long-rear end time. Most probably never reach a target at all. But enough do that you get a network.
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ashpanash posted:Presumably, there's no FTL without the gate system, right? So as they are getting started, they fling out maybe hundreds of thousands of protomolecule probes, thinking that a few thousand or so will be successful. Clearly, like with the sol system, some can be unsuccessful. Or take a long-rear end time. Most probably never reach a target at all. But enough do that you get a network. And considering the genetic modification capability they have, the creators (if they're still alive) are likely extremely long-lived or even immortal thanks to turning off their biological aging and can afford to wait thousands or millions of years for gates to be made.
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Reminds me of Peter Watts' The Island, where humans are cryogenically preserved to run a billions and billions of years long mission to build a wormhole network
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StashAugustine posted:Reminds me of Peter Watts' The Island, where humans are cryogenically preserved to run a billions and billions of years long mission to build a wormhole network and Blindsight. the precursors were taking the same approach as whatever it was that built Rorschach. dandelion seeds.
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ZorajitZorajit posted:Does it seem at all odd that they would just be searching for raw materials? They apparently have access to dozens of star systems, what resources don't they have? It needed compatible biology to build the gates. Presumably the PM aliens lived in environments similar to Earth's, so they looked for Earth-like planets and tossed PM asteroids at them to build gates and get access. They kept spreading because that's what life does? Who knows, their motivations are pretty opaque.
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Grand Fromage posted:It needed compatible biology to build the gates. I don't think that's quite right. The protomolecule is designed to hijack replicating systems, of which Earth life is a subset. We also see it modifying electronic data, for instance.
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Toast Museum posted:I don't think that's quite right. The protomolecule is designed to hijack replicating systems, of which Earth life is a subset. We also see it modifying electronic data, for instance. My impression is the technological PM stuff we see is the result of humans messing with it. You could be right, but it seems logical it's designed to hijack life in systems that are habitable for the PM aliens. Their range of habitability could certainly be wider than just Earth-like though.
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Grand Fromage posted:My impression is the technological PM stuff we see is the result of humans messing with it. You could be right, but it seems logical it's designed to hijack life in systems that are habitable for the PM aliens. Their range of habitability could certainly be wider than just Earth-like though. yeah my take was the protomolecule gets sent to systems with a food source, and eats enough organic life until it can support building the gate. Humans have a consciousness which acted like a psychic link or some other weird thing but usually the protomolecule just eats planets full of bacteria and trees so that doesn't happen normally. They have lots of gates, but if they find a star system with a planet full of organic materials, why not make one more gate out of it?
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Amazon has some licensed Expanse merch now if anyone's interested: https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?rh=n%3A83450031%2Cp_4%3AThe+Expanse&ref=w_bl_sl_s_ap_web_83450031 Surely MCRN coffee cups and lasagna trays are next? *edit* oh apparently US amazon gets even more stuff: https://www.amazon.com/s?rh=n%3A7141123011%2Cp_4%3AThe+Expanse&ref=w_bl_sl_s_ap_web_7141123011 GuardianOfAsgaard fucked around with this message at 02:25 on May 19, 2019 |
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No "stars are better off without us" shirt, 6/10
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GuardianOfAsgaard posted:Amazon has some licensed Expanse merch now if anyone's interested: No space Fedora?
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GuardianOfAsgaard posted:Amazon has some licensed Expanse merch now if anyone's interested: check out our, "you can't order outside of Australia Amazon, Amazon" https://www.amazon.com.au/s?k=the+expanse&i=fashion&dc&qid=1558229890&ref=sr_nr_i_30
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Man those licensed t-shirts suck. I'm just waiting for the official coffee mug.
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The ones with the station logos on them aren't bad, but yeah the rest are not great.
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Put the Pur & Kleen logo on the upper left and in the back and I’d buy it.
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It's definitely a "here are logos from the show, make some shirts" cash grab with no thought put into it.
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https://www.redbubble.com/shop/Expanse?ref=search_box Redbubble has both better and much more stuff on offer.
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Groetgaffel posted:https://www.redbubble.com/shop/Expanse?ref=search_box If they make those leggings into sweatpants I'd probably rock those
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The station logo shirts are alright. The rest are pretty uninspired and some get downright mall ninja. But I'm of the opinion that merch like this works best when it could exist in its own setting and just looks like an otherwise unremarkable design to someone that doesn't recognize it.
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Started binging the show now that GoT is over and can't read the thread for another day or so but wanted to say I haven't had a genuine  so hard in years at Chrisjen's "wherever I god drat liiiiiiike".Edit: Oh and I'm hoping this priest guy was lying to marine girl about Earth's oceans being garbage and she finds out Mars is doing some North Korea level propaganda. Double edit: Oh it actually turned into A Thing in the next episode. 
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Tehran 1979 posted:Started binging the show now that GoT is over and can't read the thread for another day or so but wanted to say I haven't had a genuine One of the best line reads in the history of line reads imo
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The Expanse is the best remedy available for the post-GoT fugue state, especially since it scratches a lot of the same itches of a political struggle overturned by an out of context threat
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Groetgaffel posted:https://www.redbubble.com/shop/Expanse?ref=search_box I'm the random Mass Effect and Blade Runner merch mixed in. edit: Nevermind, I'm actually whatever this is. Jeremiah Flintwick fucked around with this message at 04:14 on May 21, 2019 |
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This is the only poo poo I'm interested in: https://www.shapeways.com/product/3BE65HKE2/rocinante-full-colour?optionId=64727273&li=marketplace
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I watched season one back when it was the only season available and it was kind of underwhelming at the end - now I know that's because the season ended in the middle of a plotline. I've just binged the whole series from scratch and it's incredible how much better the show gets. Though the time jump in the middle of season three was very jarring. I had to stop and check Wikipedia to make sure I didn't somehow miss an episode. If the show gets that far, I hope they do the 30 year time jump the same way. Just this week, everybody is old.
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Zartosht posted:I'm the random Mass Effect and Blade Runner merch mixed in. I'm the word "the" applied before a ship name, like a barbarian might use:
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The only Roci model kit worth buying is from Fantastic Plastics, much assembly required: http://fantastic-plastic.com/rocinante---catalog.html Also been seeing a lot of Expanse cast activity on social media lately. Maybe a new trailer soon? loving hell I've been waiting so goddamn long. Driving me stircrazy.
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I just wonder how i'll be able to watch it this time around. I haven't even looked at Amazon Prime yet what else it has to offer. Soon we'll be in an era with so many different streaming platforms people will just say f*** it and resort back to pirating. (Since i got my netflix a couple of years ago apart from very few exceptions I've been a good boy, but no way i'm gonna pay for 5 different streaming services)
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Evernoob posted:I just wonder how i'll be able to watch it this time around. I haven't even looked at Amazon Prime yet what else it has to offer. Most of the world never stopped, because we can't use those platforms.
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So soon we'll have : HBO Go Netflix Amazon Prime Disney Apple TV? Youtube is also experimenting i think We'll I guess if each of those is throwing money at making great shows, we're the winners.
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Keep it up guys, the rest of the world appreciates your financial sacrifice.
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Evernoob posted:So soon we'll have : I mean, you don't need to? I'm only subscribed to Netflix and Amazon Prime, and I only do Prime because it's "only" about $50/year where I'm at. Their collection of movies is pretty expansive imo. HBO Go is something people subscribe to just for the run of a new season. I can't imagine why I'd want to subscribe to Disney because it's just Marvel and Star Wars (and Disney) isn't it? Those are all movies that are on my "watch once and never again" list. I have no idea if they revealed how much Apple TV is gonna cost, but from what I've heard they want to be super family friendly to a fault so that sounds pretty boring.
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Netflix and Prime (with HBO) is plenty for me, though I still buy the occasional movie where there are gaps. Now that GoT is over (thank god), I'm going to drop HBO once Chernobyl is done.
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