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FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

gently caress you, you stupid pieces of poo poo. Your one job, ONE JOB, is to follow the mission of public media. Inform, enlighten, entertain, or whatever the equivalent at that station is. That's it. It's not about audiences or profit, it's mission-driven. But no, this might make some donors sad so let's just skip it. This is the bullshit that drove me out of the field.

So eat my entire loving rear end.

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Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART

FactsAreUseless posted:

gently caress you, you stupid pieces of poo poo. Your one job, ONE JOB, is to follow the mission of public media. Inform, enlighten, entertain, or whatever the equivalent at that station is. That's it. It's not about audiences or profit, it's mission-driven. But no, this might make some donors sad so let's just skip it. This is the bullshit that drove me out of the field.

So eat my entire loving rear end.

What kind of person donates to public media and doesn't approve of gay marriage in this day and age?

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Pakled posted:

What kind of person donates to public media and doesn't approve of gay marriage in this day and age?
Public media appeals to a wide and diverse range of awful human beings. I burned out on our terrible audience years before I burned out working in public radio. We had to keep re-airing Car Talk reruns because we lost too many listeners when Garrison Keillor retired. Public media listeners and viewers are largely older, upper-middle class, and wealthy - even the liberal ones are deeply conservative. Which is why public media (and the audiences are very similar from radio to TV) tries so hard to not challenge anyone's worldview too much.

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem

Pakled posted:

What kind of person donates to public media and doesn't approve of gay marriage in this day and age?

The people allocating tax money to it.

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

The MSJ posted:

American reporters actually go through Florida arrest records if they need news to fill up space.
I said serious news reporter

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART
I figured Republicans demonizing NPR and PBS over the last decade drove the social conservatives away and all the upper middle class liberal donors are the type who are totally fine with gay marriage and just don't want their taxes raised.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Pakled posted:

I figured Republicans demonizing NPR and PBS over the last decade drove the social conservatives away and all the upper middle class liberal donors are the type who are totally fine with gay marriage and just don't want their taxes raised.
It's only driven away the Fox News viewers. The hateful educated pieces of poo poo who manipulate Americans into believing Fox News poo poo all tune in to public radio and TV because it's the only thing broadcasting specifically to educated people. Politics aside, people love classical music and spoken-word short fiction.

Not even always educated. There was a woman who would call us every morning for about six months to complain about how we were biased and hated white people. If there was a single minority on the show, or a story about minority issues, she was calling. One time she called us "n*-lovers" but without the self-censorship. It never occurred to her to just not tune in.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



FactsAreUseless posted:

gently caress you, you stupid pieces of poo poo. Your one job, ONE JOB, is to follow the mission of public media. Inform, enlighten, entertain, or whatever the equivalent at that station is. That's it. It's not about audiences or profit, it's mission-driven. But no, this might make some donors sad so let's just skip it. This is the bullshit that drove me out of the field.

So eat my entire loving rear end.

But if their mission is to be regressive shitwads, they accomplished it with flying colors :eng99:

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

FactsAreUseless posted:

How can inflatable rats be illegal... when one of them is the president?! :c00l:

“If the president does it is one, that means that it is not illegal.”

Don Gato
Apr 28, 2013

Actually a bipedal cat.
Grimey Drawer

FactsAreUseless posted:

It's only driven away the Fox News viewers. The hateful educated pieces of poo poo who manipulate Americans into believing Fox News poo poo all tune in to public radio and TV because it's the only thing broadcasting specifically to educated people. Politics aside, people love classical music and spoken-word short fiction.

Not even always educated. There was a woman who would call us every morning for about six months to complain about how we were biased and hated white people. If there was a single minority on the show, or a story about minority issues, she was calling. One time she called us "n*-lovers" but without the self-censorship. It never occurred to her to just not tune in.

This might be a weird question but do you have more stories of working in public radio? Most of my exposure to it comes from it being my mom's favorite thing to listen to for basically as long as I can remember so I legit had no idea it could get so... Heated. I'd definitely read a thread about that kind of thing.

Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet

Pakled posted:

What kind of person donates to public media and doesn't approve of gay marriage in this day and age?

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Don Gato posted:

This might be a weird question but do you have more stories of working in public radio? Most of my exposure to it comes from it being my mom's favorite thing to listen to for basically as long as I can remember so I legit had no idea it could get so... Heated. I'd definitely read a thread about that kind of thing.

Make a thread FAU

Untrustable
Mar 17, 2009





I was reading a story on an old case, and what is even happening here? It's like, "This is a heinous crime but peep these legal porno sites".

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Untrustable posted:

I was reading a story on an old case, and what is even happening here? It's like, "This is a heinous crime but peep these legal porno sites".



Sounds like someone confessing something.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Haha what the hell. It's like if a spambot upgraded from comments to article text.

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


Signals that baffled astronomers for 17 years traced to observatory's microwave oven

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸
Could microwaves be emitting perytons at YOUR children?

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Untrustable posted:

I was reading a story on an old case, and what is even happening here? It's like, "This is a heinous crime but peep these legal porno sites".



That's hilarious, first I figured it might be someone involved with fulltube.xxx plugging their site, but then they mention a completely different site. Not sure what the angle is unless this is a parody article

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Phlegmish posted:

That's hilarious, first I figured it might be someone involved with fulltube.xxx plugging their site, but then they mention a completely different site. Not sure what the angle is unless this is a parody article

Could be run by the same company.

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

Untrustable posted:

I was reading a story on an old case, and what is even happening here? It's like, "This is a heinous crime but peep these legal porno sites".


Someone is very mad about their office internet usage policy

Pastry of the Year
Apr 12, 2013

the ultimate rush is watching adult pornography on your computer, which is perfectly legal, while throwing a car battery into the ocean, about which nothing more need be said

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

New Coke is being revived in honor of Stranger Things.

Pigsfeet on Rye
Oct 22, 2008

I'm meat on the hoof

Knormal posted:

Teen stole zoo’s elderly, endangered lemur — and abandoned it at hotel, prosecutors say
A weird but not particularly funny story, but I suspect the mugshot will be showing up in clickbait ads pretty soon.



His last words to the lemur were "here's your money, now call a cab while I get a shower".

Double Punctuation
Dec 30, 2009

Ships were made for sinking;
Whiskey made for drinking;
If we were made of cellophane
We'd all get stinking drunk much faster!

New Coke is just Diet Coke with HFCS and the knobs twisted a bit. Diet Coke tastes like rear end, so I can’t imagine New Coke is any better.

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



Double Punctuation posted:

New Coke is just Diet Coke with HFCS and the knobs twisted a bit. Diet Coke tastes like rear end, so I can’t imagine New Coke is any better.

Is that actually true? I've never heard anything other than some generic claim that it's sweeter and "different" than classic. My interest works go way down, since yeah, actual Diet Coke is nasty garbage that I can't imagine anyone truly enjoying outside of some kinda soda Stockholm Syndrome.

Scathach
Apr 4, 2011

You know that thing where you sleep on your arm funny and when you wake up it's all numb? Yeah that's my whole world right now.



gently caress. They've got me. I'm super curious about the flavor but also unwilling to do the stuff to get one (maybe I'll find a vending machine.)

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

There's been a lot of studies done trying to figure out why New Coke failed. Coca-Cola had done blind taste tests that had it consistently beat classic Coke and Pepsi, so they figured it would be a slam dunk.

The first data point they missed is that when they did the taste tests and asked people what they would think if the soda permanently replaced the current recipe, there was an extremely vocal minority who reacted with anger that ended up actually interfering in the test groups by imposing peer pressure on other tasters. This information was ignored in favor of just the taste test results, so they were completely unprepared for exactly that to happen: the people who were die hard Coca-Cola fans (especially people in Georgia whose identity includes Coke as a native product) constantly harassed the company and wrote articles about how much of a travesty it was. Even if it was a minority, the massive bad publicity created a disaster.

The other is that they did the taste tests as individual tests with a small sample. Product testing like this is best done with long term tests where people are allowed to take home a sample to consume over a week or a month or whatever to see if they actually want the product at the end of it. While New Coke was sweeter and won taste tests in small samples, the sweetness was so high that people who bought large packs quickly tired of it. Regular Coca-Cola's less sweet flavor than Pepsi has often been credited with its high popularity, as it's easier to drink in large quantities or over a period of time.

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


Yeah, allegedly as well the other issue was that people who wanted sweeter coke would just buy pepsi, since that was it's main appeal at the time.

M_Sinistrari
Sep 5, 2008

Do you like scary movies?



chitoryu12 posted:

There's been a lot of studies done trying to figure out why New Coke failed. Coca-Cola had done blind taste tests that had it consistently beat classic Coke and Pepsi, so they figured it would be a slam dunk.

The first data point they missed is that when they did the taste tests and asked people what they would think if the soda permanently replaced the current recipe, there was an extremely vocal minority who reacted with anger that ended up actually interfering in the test groups by imposing peer pressure on other tasters. This information was ignored in favor of just the taste test results, so they were completely unprepared for exactly that to happen: the people who were die hard Coca-Cola fans (especially people in Georgia whose identity includes Coke as a native product) constantly harassed the company and wrote articles about how much of a travesty it was. Even if it was a minority, the massive bad publicity created a disaster.

The other is that they did the taste tests as individual tests with a small sample. Product testing like this is best done with long term tests where people are allowed to take home a sample to consume over a week or a month or whatever to see if they actually want the product at the end of it. While New Coke was sweeter and won taste tests in small samples, the sweetness was so high that people who bought large packs quickly tired of it. Regular Coca-Cola's less sweet flavor than Pepsi has often been credited with its high popularity, as it's easier to drink in large quantities or over a period of time.

From what I remember, it was too sweet and not all that different from Pepsi which I also don't like for being too sweet. Only good that came out of New Coke was I found I liked RC Cola.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Drone_Fragger posted:

Yeah, allegedly as well the other issue was that people who wanted sweeter coke would just buy pepsi, since that was it's main appeal at the time.

The new guy in charge who made the decision was hired at a time that Coke's dominance had been slipping and was told that he had essentially free reign over fixing the problem. He decided that the best way to compete was to figure out what competitors were doing with their drinks and be more like them, even if that meant changing the formula.

It's the kind of simplistic solution that a lot of people thinking about ways to compete end up taking, not realizing that there may be other factors than exactly what the product is.

Aleph Null
Jun 10, 2008

You look very stressed
Tortured By Flan

M_Sinistrari posted:

From what I remember, it was too sweet and not all that different from Pepsi which I also don't like for being too sweet. Only good that came out of New Coke was I found I liked RC Cola.

When I want a regular cola, RC is the best, but find me a restaurant that has it on tap.

Now if I want a soda, I'll go places that have fountain vanilla Coke. Or just drink tea or water which is what I normally do because I am boring.

Untrustable
Mar 17, 2009





Phlegmish posted:

That's hilarious, first I figured it might be someone involved with fulltube.xxx plugging their site, but then they mention a completely different site. Not sure what the angle is unless this is a parody article

It's not parody. It's actually from my hometown newspaper's site. I'm guessing someone has admin tools they shouldn't have.

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Captain Hygiene posted:

Diet Coke is nasty garbage that I can't imagine anyone truly enjoying outside of some kinda soda Stockholm Syndrome.

Diet Coke is the only soda I really enjoy, with mountain dew throwback coming in a distant second.

It's "thinner" and much more refreshing, and I liken it strongly to coming to love skim milk after growing up with whole milk

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



The Bloop posted:

Diet Coke is the only soda I really enjoy, with mountain dew throwback coming in a distant second.

It's "thinner" and much more refreshing, and I liken it strongly to coming to love skim milk after growing up with whole milk

I dunno, I mean like what you like, but I don't see how it's similar or refreshing. Slim milk tastes like weaker milk to me, but Diet Coke tastes harsh and metallic and only related to Coke in a vague slightly cola-ish way.

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

I think we can all agree that every pop pales in comparison to the one true pop, Diet Mt. Dew.

The MSJ
May 17, 2010

https://twitter.com/SecretaryCarson/status/1130922949060571137?s=09

AlbieQuirky
Oct 9, 2012

Just me and my 🌊dragon🐉 hanging out

Either Ben Carson just executed a self:iceburn: or he :iceburn:ed that lady and I honestly can’t tell which.

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


https://twitter.com/RepKatiePorter/status/1130889201455685633

In case anyone's missing the context. The tl;dr is that Ben Carson is no way qualified to be HUD secretary.

Screaming Idiot
Nov 26, 2007

JUST POSTING WHILE JERKIN' MY GHERKIN SITTIN' IN A PERKINS!

BEATS SELLING MERKINS.

ultrafilter posted:

https://twitter.com/RepKatiePorter/status/1130889201455685633

In case anyone's missing the context. The tl;dr is that Ben Carson is no way qualified to be HUD secretary.

He recently pushed a law to keep people from smoking inside their own homes, which is kinda lovely since this is exactly the kinda of "nanny state" poo poo they're supposed to be against. It's purely a ploy to make life for the impoverished just a little bit worse and to make it easier to evict them. A friend of my mother across town was evicted recently because he smoked just outside his front door, but not regulated twenty-five feet away.

The dude was disabled and had to get around with a loving cane.

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Leave
Feb 7, 2012

Taking the term "Koopaling" to a whole new level since 2016.

Azathoth posted:

I think we can all agree that every pop pales in comparison to the one true pop, Diet Mt. Dew.

gently caress you, I like Diet Mountain Dew.

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