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bring back old gbs posted:So....was that a future version of Zari where she transitioned to a man, or an entirely different person? Her brother, who died in the original timeline, forcing Zari to take over the wind totem and go into hiding because of the anti-metahuman laws. Because of the time idiots the entire world became a giant Kum Ba Ya-land instead, the anti-meta backlash didn't happen, her brother lived, and Zari never became a superhero who was recruited by the legends.
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kjetting posted:Her brother, who died in the original timeline, forcing Zari to take over the wind totem and go into hiding because of the anti-metahuman laws. Because of the time idiots the entire world became a giant Kum Ba Ya-land instead, the anti-meta backlash didn't happen, her brother lived, and Zari never became a superhero who was recruited by the legends. Zari's new future is as a magical creature enthusiast/expert based on her experience with Mithra. Calling it.
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May 21, 2019 21:17
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Does this mean the Legends also erased Arrow: Beyond?
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May 21, 2019 21:18
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howe_sam posted:Does this mean the Legends also erased Arrow: Beyond? Arrow Beyond is its own weird little dystopia that seemingly exists independent of the Legends' future. Same with the future in the Flash that XS was from before.
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Medullah posted:They're going to bring the new version of Zari who doesn't know who any of them are. Nate will have clones of his two loves on the ship. Time to move on to Sarah.
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May 21, 2019 21:23
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I somehow missed all of the brother storyline?? 
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YorexTheMad posted:Something I may have missed, spoiler tags just in case: The only reason he couldn't have done it is because they were in Neron's vault and I don't think John's soul was specifically Neron's (or because looking for one particular coin is like looking for a needle in a haystack). They've been pretty vague on what demons in particular have a claim on John. That said, if the coin was there, you know he stole it.
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May 21, 2019 22:47
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howe_sam posted:Does this mean the Legends also erased Arrow: Beyond? Welcome to Legends where the time travel rules are made up and the plots don't matter!
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Welcome to Legends where the time travel rules are made up and the plots don't matter! Yeah, Arrowverse continuity affects Legends, not vice versa.
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bring back old gbs posted:I somehow missed all of the brother storyline?? It was all contained in her origin episode.
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May 21, 2019 23:11
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I like to think that Arrow Beyond always happens because that's what Felicity did to the city. The anti-meta laws were probably brought in to deal with the aftermath of whatever Barry does when he vanishes; "we can't let another incdent like Barry Allen, the worst criminal in human history, caused again."
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Vandal God Damned Savage made an appearance. And was great! Also, lol at Ava talking about how hard it would be to steal the book, just to have Mick casually walk in with it. I'm glad they remember he's a world class thief, even if they don't use it much. Zari's brother is another Time Bro, and that's great too. Has DC put out a comic version of this yet?
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OB_Juan posted:Vandal God Damned Savage made an appearance. And was great! Legends of Tomorrow are pretty much unique. I say that though DC put out a short series of comics in 2016 by the same name that was a collection of four different stories: Firestorm, The Metal Men, Metamorpho, and Sugar and Spike (a reboot/reimagining of sorts for the last one)
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May 22, 2019 02:25
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Was Mick a world class thief? I thought he was a smash-and-grab kinda guy and Snart was the brains.
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He's not the idiot he pretends to be. Snart was the brains but that doesn't mean that Mick is a slouch. He's also a seasoned time traveler with something like a subjective thousand years of time bounty hunting under his belt.
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May 22, 2019 03:46
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Mick Rory is the most intelligent Legend
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They've shown him helping plan and enact heists before just fine, even after Snart died. Plus the whole Chronos thing. They've also gone out of their way to repeatedly mention the constant drinking is self-medicating for the whole Chronos thing. Rory is a bit more direct and blunt in most of his work, but the thieving he's still quite good at. Plus for all we know he DID smash and grab it. Him just popping in with the book unprompted out of nowhere is perfectly in character on top of hilarious.
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I wonder if this episode was written before they got the renewal notice, because it seems to me it was written with an eye towards possibly being a last episode. All the meta moments, the way they acknowledge they're not as big as those other superhero shows, they don't have the names, etc. It turned into this assertion that "We're the rinky-dink carnival show compared to everyone else, but dammit, we've got heart!" Like a statement that they're just trying to make the world a little nicer and less scary through goofiness and monsters. Even down to bringing back Vandal Savage and having him be totally chill because of Ray's influence. Like if it had been the final episode, it would have been a very good one. Thankfully it's not.
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I think it's more them just kind of getting dumb and fun with it rather than trying to top the amazing Beebo fight season finale.
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They wouldn't have blinked Zari out of existence like that if they thought they weren't coming back, plus the Crisis tie in, they knew it wasn't a series finale.
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YorexTheMad posted:Did Constantine grab his own soul from Neron's vault while he was there? I don't remember it happening or if they said why he didn't / couldn't. I don't think Neron had his soul. He still has it. Neron's just got dibs on it when he eventually dies. So there's no coin/soul to grab.
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Didn't Constantine's soul belong to the Triumvirate who rule Hell? Wasn't Neron just a jerk stalker demon with a big plan?
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Andrew_1985 posted:Didn't Constantine's soul belong to the Triumvirate who rule Hell? Wasn't Neron just a jerk stalker demon with a big plan? I think you're right - they just said Neron owned Constantine's soul to get past the guard at the bank.
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May 22, 2019 11:52
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Best show, best finale, best use of the Monitor ever. And an absolutely heartbreaking ending. And the next season looks amazing, that concept is solid gold.
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Tiggum posted:I think you're right - they just said Neron owned Constantine's soul to get past the guard at the bank. No, last episode Constantine got to meet with the Triumverate by pointing out that when he dies, Neron gets him. I guess he's home free now though.
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May 22, 2019 15:09
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HUGE SPACEKABLOOIE posted:Mick Rory is the most intelligent Legend Yeah the joke with Mick is that he's not what he appears to be. He's basically always spot on with whatever it is that is needed, be it brains, brawn, writing novels or stealing things.
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May 22, 2019 19:41
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That ending with Nate's day was way more emotional that I suspected Legends could pull off.
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I only just realized that Phil Klemmer and Chris Fedak are showrunners on LoT, which I think explains a lot about why I like it. I don't know how they could have made such a bad first season but Klemmer and Fedak both worked on Chuck, one of my favorite shows, (Fedak being co-showrunner and Klemmer having written some standout eps) which is tonally very much like Legends is now--a mix of plot holes, silly, and sweet moments--so whatever changed between seasons 1 and 2, it definitely worked in their favor as the show really plays to their strengths now. Also, a highlight of Chuck was great use of music to hit emotional beats, which is probably why I liked this finale so much.
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I think S1 to S2 was a complete willingness to look at what worked, what didn't, and course correct hard. S2 is almost a soft reboot of the series with making Sara the leader, bringing in actual interesting villains, and ditching most of the time filling CW drama.
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Season 4 is up on Netflix and I'm catching up on some missed episode. I can't believe they referenced the disco thing 
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oh my god this loving episode Sarah saying "we need a franchise character to get our foot in the door" while wearing a Supergirl costume Ray's dismissal of Kendra as "doesn't matter" The Monitor this show is great and AoS is great and comic books are great
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Chokes McGee posted:this show is great and AoS is great and comic books are great
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SardonicTyrant posted:Let's not say things we can't take back. okay some of them are 
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Chokes McGee posted:oh my god this loving episode It’s kind of amazing that Vandal Savage wound up being the most likeable person in that love triangle. E: between him, Kendra and Carter, I mean.
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Vandal mellowed out when he went to Hell and didn't have a world to conquer. Honestly, I hope he comes back in S4 and joins the team.
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Cheerful vandal savage was pretty great. They should just leave Ray in hell until he turns everyone into a ray-clone version of themselves
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Xelkelvos posted:Vandal mellowed out when he went to Hell and didn't have a world to conquer. Honestly, I hope he comes back in S4 and joins the team. He was so boring in Season 1 but it's insane how a tiny little cameo has completely redeemed him for me. I am totally down for him being the team's Hell Expert or some guy they check in on every so often who's just incredibly upbeat at all times.
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He's got a pretty good deal going, honestly, I'd be pretty upbeat too. Live forever, see humanity rise and fall, and all you have to do is kill a couple people every hundred years or so. And the people are so terrible that killing them is also a plus.
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I love that Ray's gotten dumber and dorkier as time goes on. Would modern Ray even be capable of running a company or date Felicity?
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SardonicTyrant posted:I love that Ray's gotten dumber and dorkier as time goes on. Would modern Ray even be capable of running a company or date Felicity? The former, yes. He's still a genius, just a dorky genius and knows how to defer to people who knows business stuff while he makes new tech. The latter, also possibly yes.
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