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Max Wilco posted:What other criticisms were there? I’ve been playing through it for the past few weeks since it’s been in my Steam library for years but I’ve never played it past level 15 or so. So far it seems like an OK-ish shooter. The “Bajillions of Guns!” thing is kinda neat, but I’m finding that I hate most of the random combinations. I don’t know why I keep getting scopes on shotguns but they keep coming. I sorta like Handsome Jack as a villain, or at least I did at first, but all my allies only value life marginally more than Jack does so it kinda makes him less a taunting villain and more “Another jaggoff swearing in my radio.” It’s kinda weird. I don’t hate the story or anything, but it feels like someone wanted to write a story where the “Murderhobo” thing is taken seriously, but not too seriously, and it’s not working that well.
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Congrats. Zack Snyder is your typical Hollywood liberal. There's a thread for discussion about the guy and if you don't want to go there to discuss him and his works then perhaps don't?CYBEReris posted:one of the show's biggest shortcomings is that it has an extremely poor understanding of the politics behind those villains, most pronounced with anarchism. the end result is a centrist narrative that values preservation of the status quo and blanket villifies radical action that threatens this status quo. of all the ideologies on display, it's the hyper-capitalist who gets the distinction of being friendly and endearing to the Avatar. That's what always bothered me. Season 1 had this too where it tied the plight of non-benders to the villain. Once Amon was defeated, the problem was solved. Non-benders got ????????????????? once it was all over. It never really tackled some things that it sets up which was extremely disappointing and like you said, hyper-capitalists end up being heroes and the status quo goes unchallenged.
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Zack Snyder’s best movie was the first one he made and never did a good film after that. No cap
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On a separate note: Noah Caldwell Gervais might just be my favorite person on Youtube. I like how his zero-frills presentation is used to frame his long, relaxing, almost college lecture-style lookbacks at older game franchises. There's something about how he not only thoroughly researches these old titles but how he mixes it with his own personal views. For instance, he recently reviewed the original Warcraft and Warcraft 2 games, since they just came out on GoG, and as much as he was happy to return to two cornerstones of the real-time strategy genre and the first brick of what would be the monolith of Blizzard, he added that the original Warcraft can be tedious and that Warcraft 2 (especially its expansion) can be insanely challenging. There's also an easy, laid back patience to his videos. It may come off to some as unprofessional, but I find it refreshing when he takes a breath, fumbles and retakes a line or word, or awkwardly make a cut somewhere. Compared to the Youtube-scape of today, his videos are not well produced. But I think that's because his emphasis is on the writing of his retrospectives, which adds a dare I say, folksy (?) charm. I'm sure there's a lot of you out there that have recommendations for some of his retrospectives. But I'd like to personally recommend his road trip travelogues. They're some of the most chilled out videos I've ever seen.
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Nuns with Guns posted:I mean, googling aside I'm not going to argue either way on whether it's easy to confuse their names or not, but ending this on a "lol u mad" after being super wrong on a sensitive issue is pretty tacky. You do realize most people don't have an encyclopedic knowledge of internet celebrity sex pests, right? if you assume a person doesn't know who Zac S is, it's actually pretty normal to assume he's talking about Snyder when we're in the middle of a conversation about said person, instead of assuming there's an entirely different Zac S that is a rapist sex pest, cause that's a heck of a coincidence, and it's not like his post had contextual clues either. Like yeah it was a mistake on my part but maybe if he wasn't being needlessly antagonistic over a understandable mix-up I wouldn't have been so snarky. In conclusion posting is a land of contrasts McCloud fucked around with this message at 15:42 on May 22, 2019 |
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May 22, 2019 15:40
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McCloud posted:You do realize most people don't have an encyclopedic knowledge of internet celebrity sex pests, right? if you assume a person doesn't know who Zac S is, it's actually pretty normal to assume he's talking about Snyder when we're in the middle of a conversation about said person, instead of assuming there's an entirely different Zac S that is a rapist sex pest, cause that's a heck of a coincidence, and it's not like his post had contextual clues either. Like yeah it was a mistake on my part but maybe if he wasn't being needlessly antagonistic with a over a understandable mix-up I wouldn't have been so snarky. Maybe that's why you should read the post before commenting on how it's wrong sight unseen because you think it trashes a dude you like
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McCloud posted:You do realize most people don't have an encyclopedic knowledge of internet celebrity sex pests, right? if you assume a person doesn't know who Zac S is, it's actually pretty normal to assume he's talking about Snyder when we're in the middle of a conversation about said person, instead of assuming there's an entirely different Zac S that is a rapist sex pest, cause that's a heck of a coincidence, and it's not like his post had contextual clues either. Like yeah it was a mistake on my part but maybe if he wasn't being needlessly antagonistic over a understandable mix-up I wouldn't have been so snarky. You are an incredibly stupid motherfucker and I'm going to break your bones very quickly with judo throws and holds, and the more you try to make it look like you're sarcastic and above it all with the "get yourself a juicebox" and the last line of this post just make you look like an even bigger dipshit Alaois fucked around with this message at 15:49 on May 22, 2019 |
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Alaois posted:it may also go a bit into why I'm maybe a bit upset that people completely glossed over my effort post about the guy but gently caress me i guess I would also like to add that I appreciated this post. I'm guessing there weren't many replies because there's not much humor to dig from it, and every rear end in a top hat here has gotta have a joke as a reply (unless it's personal for them).
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May 22, 2019 15:44
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somethingawful.com is no place for jokes
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I used to watch the show he was in on escapist and was sad to learn those details but I didn't post anything because I didn't feel it would add anything to the conversation.
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Arist posted:Maybe that's why you should read the post before commenting on how it's wrong sight unseen because you think it trashes a dude you like Maybe you should butt out, buttface  Alaois posted:You are an incredibly stupid motherfucker and I'm going to break your bones very quickly with judo throws and holds, and the more you try to make it look like you're sarcastic and above it all with the "get yourself a juicebox" and the last line of this post just make you look like an even bigger dipshit This is a completely normal response. Yikes McCloud fucked around with this message at 16:03 on May 22, 2019 |
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ah poo poo i screwed up the wording whatever.
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McCloud posted:You do realize most people don't have an encyclopedic knowledge of internet celebrity sex pests, right? if you assume a person doesn't know who Zac S is, it's actually pretty normal to assume he's talking about Snyder when we're in the middle of a conversation about said person, instead of assuming there's an entirely different Zac S that is a rapist sex pest, cause that's a heck of a coincidence, and it's not like his post had contextual clues either. Like yeah it was a mistake on my part but maybe if he wasn't being needlessly antagonistic over a understandable mix-up I wouldn't have been so snarky. If you're going to post McCloud posted:Also while i haven't read your effort post I feel comfortable saying you're wrong with such conviction then I guess brace for blowback about being wrong on something because you didn't want to bother clicking the ? under another poster's name. And you're still getting details wrong when you're calling him a "sex pest" because that's not the kind of abuse he does at all. And you're spelling his name wrong. Nuns with Guns fucked around with this message at 16:17 on May 22, 2019 |
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Alois calm the gently caress down and stop taking it personally if people don't read your effortposts. I don't read half the poo poo in this thread because I tend to gloss over when slap fight happen, it's not a personal slight against you. I try to find new videos to post to head off the derailments and let other topics come up so people who don't want to partake in the latest thread dust up can have something to talk about. Like so: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH9FxtuyCsE But I don't lose my mind if people pass me over and don't recognize the effort I put into my work. I just go along and talk about what I want to until I find a new video. What is the point of getting mad? It's too much effort to keep seething like that. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 16:52 on May 22, 2019 |
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Arcsquad12 posted:Alois calm the gently caress down and stop taking it personally if people don't read your effortposts. FWIW Alaois I read and appreciated your Zak S post because I haven't kept up on that whole situation since I stopped lurking the Trad games forum well over a year ago. Vonnie fucked around with this message at 16:57 on May 22, 2019 |
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sexpig by night posted:also who cares if he said Rand was nuts, The Fountainhead was just as political as Atlas, all he's doing is admitting he's genuinely so stupid he read a giant political rant book and only got 'oooh...ARCHITECTURE....' out of it. Well Snyder is stupid as gently caress, also she didn’t hate Reagan for nationalism at least solely. she hated him because she hated evangelicals and the religious right. I read a lot about her during my high school libertarian phase.
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Arcsquad12 posted:Alois calm the gently caress down and stop taking it personally if people don't read your effortposts. I don't read half the poo poo in this thread because I tend to gloss over when slap fight happen, it's not a personal slight against you. I'm not actually mad at everyone in the thread for not responding to that post, and that first post was more of a joke about it being passed over so why try, but McCloud is such a loving loser who earnestly dug in at my attempt at goofing on hbomb and then proceeded to double down on being an rear end in a top hat after asking what my post was about and then completely misunderstanding it when i told him that i actually did get angry but at him specifically. Vonnie posted:I think it's less that McCloud didn't read it and more that McCloud directly asked them about it and then immediately dismissed it because they thought it was about a completely different person. thanks, to you and the other people who said they were informed by my post.
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i am tim! posted:I’ve been playing through it for the past few weeks since it’s been in my Steam library for years but I’ve never played it past level 15 or so. So far it seems like an OK-ish shooter. The “Bajillions of Guns!” thing is kinda neat, but I’m finding that I hate most of the random combinations. I don’t know why I keep getting scopes on shotguns but they keep coming. I sorta like Handsome Jack as a villain, or at least I did at first, but all my allies only value life marginally more than Jack does so it kinda makes him less a taunting villain and more “Another jaggoff swearing in my radio.” Yeah. 2 is ok story wise, it’s just tonnaly weird. It’s only till the presequel that it gets terrible and legit memes.
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BL2's story mostly works until the control core angel fight. Everything after Roland dies is crap and feels like endless padding through lovely environments. At least the level design was mostly okay, but the enemies sucked. Pre Sequel level design is horrendous and the enemies are awful and every. single. quest. has you go to a door, oops it's locked, now you have to take the long way around. Pre-Sequel music is dull, the story is crap, the writing is bad, the level design is awful, the enemy variety is terrible. The only things it does genuinely well is having better classes and game balance than BL2.
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Pre-Sequel had the very good feature of the player character actually having lines and reacting to the story and dialogue that is happening to them, the actual writing of it not withstanding, though that was something that originally started being experimented with in some of the later Borderlands 2 DLCs. I cannot overstate how sick I've gotten of the silent protagonist.
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Jimbot posted:That's what always bothered me. Season 1 had this too where it tied the plight of non-benders to the villain. Once Amon was defeated, the problem was solved. Non-benders got ????????????????? once it was all over. It never really tackled some things that it sets up which was extremely disappointing and like you said, hyper-capitalists end up being heroes and the status quo goes unchallenged. I remember being so sad that the non bender's plight plotline was dropped so suddenly. I'd love to see a version of Korra where they knew from day one it was gonna be four seasons, because I feel like that, maybe more than anything, really brought the series down (and this is coming from someone who really likes Korra).
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Burch is good at writing characters and dialogue but the story and lore of BL2 are pretty garbo, and this comes from someone a bit too obsessed with the series Every discussion about Burch leads to loving insufferable 4chan bullshit tho
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Alaois posted:Pre-Sequel had the very good feature of the player character actually having lines and reacting to the story and dialogue that is happening to them, the actual writing of it not withstanding, though that was something that originally started being experimented with in some of the later Borderlands 2 DLCs. I played as Zer0, though, so it at least seemed kind of appropriate.
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Darth Walrus posted:I played as Zer0, though, so it at least seemed kind of appropriate. Zer0 is a chatty motherfucker though, he just talks entirely in haiku. As someone who does really like the Borderlands series probably more than I should, I do think it gets a worse rap than it deserves a lot of the time and hope 3 is good, but man is Randy just reducing himself into a puddle with all the poo poo that keeps happening with him.
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Nuns with Guns posted:If you're going to post Well that post was meant to be tongue in cheek, but in fairness that kind of stuff can be really hard to gauge over the internet and it's easy to assume the other person is a dick rather than ironic/sarcastic, since the internet is full of belligerent a-holes
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Arcsquad12 posted:BL2's story mostly works until the control core angel fight. Everything after Roland dies is crap and feels like endless padding through lovely environments. I just got to that point, actually. Did the Angel core quest last night and I feel that was one of its stronger quests, at least so far. I will admit that the little “Hey, why don’t they make the respawners stop respawning me?” type nitpicks are piling up. It’s not a huge deal; I’m not necessarily here because I heard the Story and Gameplay integration was amazing, after all. Funny you say it’s full of padding, I got to the next zone and my first thought was “Wow, this looks like something from WoW during the Burning Crusade era,” followed by a dreadful flashback to the ultra grinding faction quests. Now that feels even more foreboding.
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i am tim! posted:I just got to that point, actually. Did the Angel core quest last night and I feel that was one of its stronger quests, at least so far. I will admit that the little “Hey, why don’t they make the respawners stop respawning me?” type nitpicks are piling up. It’s not a huge deal; I’m not necessarily here because I heard the Story and Gameplay integration was amazing, after all. So you know how you go to the Eridium Blight and Mordecai tells you to get to the info stockade, but they block the bridge so you have to go to Sawtooth Cauldron instead first? Now, imagine if that happened for every quest in the game, and you've got the quest design for the Pre-Sequel. It was annoying in Borderlands 2 and absolutely terrible in TPS.
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Alaois posted:Pre-Sequel had the very good feature of the player character actually having lines and reacting to the story and dialogue that is happening to them, the actual writing of it not withstanding, though that was something that originally started being experimented with in some of the later Borderlands 2 DLCs. id agree with that. i played as athena and she was fun at least. watho posted:Burch is good at writing characters and dialogue but the story and lore of BL2 are pretty garbo, and this comes from someone a bit too obsessed with the series i think most of the characters are all right. they just don't really DO anything. the biggest issue i have with all the borderlands games honestly is the shooting just isn't fun for me. its a big mix of lack of movement, guns being wither super weak or super strong and baddie hit reactions not existent. i am hoping 3 fixes some of this stuff but i kinda dislike gearbox for a ton of different reasons. in my opinion i always thought bulletstorm was how i always wanted borderlands to be. there is lots of humor and dirty jokes but their is genuin heart to the story and empathy for the characters. plus i love how capitalism hosed the paradise world to death and the villian is just an fun all around creepy dickhead who is also a sexist racist psycho. plus the combat while clunky at times is vicerial and varied and fun. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 19:08 on May 22, 2019 |
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McCloud posted:Maybe you should butt out, buttface Youre such a dumbass its honestly pretty awe inspiring. Cease posting immediately. Also borderlands is trash.
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ArfJason posted:Also borderlands is trash. i bought it on launch and they hosed up the pc fov so bad that i stopped playing after 20 minutes and never picked it up again.
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Groovelord Neato posted:i bought it on launch and they hosed up the pc fov so bad that i stopped playing after 20 minutes and never picked it up again. I played thru 1 and it was extremely miserable and hearing about tiny tina and BUTTSTALLION xD i knew i made the right choice never getting even close to the games. Somehow i heard the telltale series is REAAALLY good, but i dont own that one.
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Say whatever you want about Borderlands, and you can say a lot, but I am endlessly amused by SomethingAwful Dot Com posters making GBS threads themselves in rage because a game had a reference to a popular meme in it.
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ArfJason posted:I played thru 1 and it was extremely miserable and hearing about tiny tina and BUTTSTALLION xD i knew i made the right choice never getting even close to the games. Somehow i heard the telltale series is REAAALLY good, but i dont own that one. the Telltale series is easily the best game both made by Telltale and in the Borderlands franchise and how low of a bar that is to clear is entirely dependent on you but I found it well written and much funnier than the source material.
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Borderlands sucks because that piece of poo poo Pitchford used the money for a possible cool Aliens game (superior property) for his hack meme game. gently caress borderlands
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Turns out the Telltale formula of choosing marginally different dialogue options works a lot better when you're picking which joke you want to hear than trying to tell a "serious, branching narrative experience." Also the new characters were pretty good.
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Groovelord Neato posted:opposing force is the only good game gearbox has made.
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The borderlands games are games I really enjoyed to play through once with my buds, but I don't understand how people genuinely love it. NG+ in 2 was also an insane hyperinflation of HP values to silly agrees.
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