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NoneMoreNegative posted:Facebook reminder from five years ago today who is the chick meant to be?
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Dont let the libdems pull a macron on your rear end
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tarbrush posted:https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1131515508682088448?s=19 lol are they allowed to release opinion polls whilst the rl polls are open? e: just checked they actually released the poll last night and BritainElects is playing catchup Doccykins has issued a correction as of 12:58 on May 23, 2019 |
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May 23, 2019 12:56
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Kurtofan posted:Dont let the libdems pull a macron on your rear end who is macron
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May 23, 2019 13:04
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yeah don't hold your breath on a miracle turnout by the youth
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bitmap posted:perhaps but what about that one monty python sketch where the miner son comes home to his disdainful playwright dad and his mum is all "ooh stop it you know what he's like after a few novels" eheheh THERE'S NOWT WRONG WI' MEANINGFUL VOTES LAD! i've 'ad more meaningful votes than you've 'ad hot dinners!
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Kurtofan posted:Dont let the libdems pull a macron on your rear end They won't pull a Macron, best case is they get back to their 40-50 seat heyday. That might be consequential though, as neither Labour nor the Conservatives seem likely to achieve a majority whilst the single issue parties (BXP, LD, GR) can cannibalise single issue Brexit voters off both of them.
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Martin BadClixx posted:who is macron man flub
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Ayn Randi posted:THERE'S NOWT WRONG WI' MEANINGFUL VOTES LAD! i've 'ad more meaningful votes than you've 'ad hot dinners! The Rt Hon Dennis Skinner MP? Is that you?
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Vlex posted:The Rt Hon Dennis Skinner MP? Is that you? Implying Skinner is a privy councillor is probably the most grievous insult he could imagine
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Martin BadClixx posted:who is macron A no good man
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A centrist if u will
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tarbrush posted:They won't pull a Macron, best case is they get back to their 40-50 seat heyday. That might be consequential though, as neither Labour nor the Conservatives seem likely to achieve a majority whilst the single issue parties (BXP, LD, GR) can cannibalise single issue Brexit voters off both of them. This is unlikely btw - not only would it need the Lib Dems to get up into mid twenties in terms of percentage of the vote, the party has some serious money troubles and the coalition years have meant their presence has atrophied in a bunch of former Lib Dem marginals, so their potential targets have dropped. One thing they might benefit from is a major splitting of the Tory vote to Brexit Party or the Tory vote not turning up, like what happened at the locals.
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May 23, 2019 13:24
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the french only elected Macron because he wasn't Le Pen
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Kurtofan posted:A centrist if u will ewww
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MikeCrotch posted:This is unlikely btw - not only would it need the Lib Dems to get up into mid twenties in terms of percentage of the vote, the party has some serious money troubles and the coalition years have meant their presence has atrophied in a bunch of former Lib Dem marginals, so their potential targets have dropped. Yeah, it's their best case. I don't think it's outlandish though, a hard Brexiter might displace enough tories, and Labour could still be a bit vulnerable if some people's European election votes lead them to go for a more definitive remain party. That also goes for donors, there have been a few public donors leaving the main parties. If the Lib Dems can convince people that they'll be kingmakers in the next parliament, plenty of big donors might look at the relative cost of buying influence in the big parties vs cost in the Libs. It's all about momentum for them at the moment, if they fall back in the Euro elections all of the above evaporates and they're dead again. If they outperform, they could be a very annoying thorn.
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will the results of the eu election be announced tonight or do they wait until sunday after all the other countries have voted
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EU citizens are finding that their votes have been suppressed https://twitter.com/MikeStuchbery_/status/1131544265862078464
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May 23, 2019 13:56
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I think we have more electoral fraud than the US now.
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lol the US is completely corrupt.
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I would guess it's more likely a result of nobody being sure these elections were happening for a long time combined with a decade's worth of cuts taking it's toll on the administrative competence of councils than any deliberate suppression
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Regarde Aduck posted:I think we have more electoral fraud than the US now. Easy there. We have people running around with boxes of ballots they don't like. We're very crooked.
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Bryter posted:I would guess it's more likely a result of nobody being sure these elections were happening for a long time combined with a decade's worth of cuts taking it's toll on the administrative competence of councils than any deliberate suppression Destruction of competent administration is a way of suppression though
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May 23, 2019 14:19
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is there any proof to the lib claim that “labour wants brexit”
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Themage posted:is there any proof to the lib claim that “labour wants brexit” The 2017 Labour manifesto said the party accepted the referendum result and would see Brexit through.
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Bryter posted:The 2017 Labour manifesto said the party accepted the referendum result and would see Brexit through. what about something that isnt 2 years old
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Themage posted:what about something that isnt 2 years old The guardian article Corbyn wrote in December headlined Let Me Do Brexit? Labour have been saying for like a year that their priority is securing a general election to give them a chance to push their Brexit deal through, and failing that a 2nd referendum. None of this is secret.
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May 23, 2019 14:44
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so they arent pro brexit then
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thanks, could have just said the second ref part first
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Themage posted:thanks, could have just said the second ref part first I couldn't really, because that wouldn't communicate the fact that a second referendum is what they want if they can't get their brexit deal through, which is their preferred option
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Themage posted:so they arent pro brexit then Their first priority is labour Brexit, which they're quite clear doesn't involve free movement and therefore does not include the single market.
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except in that recent TV interview corbyn admitted that it does feature freedom of movement because he wants single market access
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tarbrush posted:Their first priority is labour Brexit, which they're quite clear doesn't involve free movement and therefore does not include the single market. Starmer, and more recently Corbyn, has said freedom of movement would be open for negotiation if Labour take charge of Brexit talks. Basically it's pointless to speculate about what Labour "wants" wrt Brexit. What they want is to be a part of government. Keeping remainers and leavers alike on board is necessary to achieve that, and that's the primary motivator for their Brexit policy.
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The entire point of Labour's strategy is this, to try and be different things to different people, it's like Blair is still in charge E: I sympathise that they're between a rock and a hard place but, still, lol
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Obliterati posted:Labour's strategy is this, to try and be different things to different people So Labour's strategy is to literally become Brexit. We finally have a definition of Brexit. Labour is Brexit and Brexit is Labour. Corbyn has achieved enlightenment and become the physical manifestation of Brexit on Earth.
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galagazombie posted:So Labour's strategy is to literally become Brexit. We finally have a definition of Brexit. Labour is Brexit and Brexit is Labour. Corbyn has achieved enlightenment and become the physical manifestation of Brexit on Earth. Corbhisattva save us
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