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Slutitution
Jun 26, 2018

by Nyc_Tattoo

Lambert posted:

Imagine putting stuff like "good father" up as your bio.

The opposite is more likely when people have to state things like this

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A Handed Missus
Aug 6, 2012


Some Guy TT posted:

remember when comey was so proud of being a good dad he accidentally doxxed his daughter

is this connected to when he revealed he had a secret instagram account, but he specified exactly how many accounts he was following and then someone obviously found it

THS
Sep 15, 2017

Former NSA intelligence analyst, husband, golfer, dog fucker

Trumps Baby Hands
Mar 27, 2016

Silent white light filled the world. And the righteous and unrighteous alike were consumed in that holy fire.
Comey sucks

Frumply
Dec 7, 2004








wussia :kiddo:

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

The thing confuses me about the "Trump taking orders from Putin" take is that it seems far more likely that Trump just likes and respects Putin and is willing to take his advice as a result (and at that point it's unclear what makes that specifically treason, as opposed to US leaders consulting with the leaders of any other country).

Even if you think that Trump's opinions are a reflection of Putin's desires (which is itself kind of dubious), this seems like the far more reasonable interpretation.

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

Ytlaya posted:

The thing confuses me about the "Trump taking orders from Putin" take is that it seems far more likely that Trump just likes and respects Putin and is willing to take his advice as a result (and at that point it's unclear what makes that specifically treason, as opposed to US leaders consulting with the leaders of any other country).

Even if you think that Trump's opinions are a reflection of Putin's desires (which is itself kind of dubious), this seems like the far more reasonable interpretation.

you'll be a lot less confused if you just look at it as a more eloquent way of saying "RUSSIA BAD"

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Ytlaya posted:

The thing confuses me about the "Trump taking orders from Putin" take is that it seems far more likely that Trump just likes and respects Putin and is willing to take his advice as a result (and at that point it's unclear what makes that specifically treason, as opposed to US leaders consulting with the leaders of any other country).

Even if you think that Trump's opinions are a reflection of Putin's desires (which is itself kind of dubious), this seems like the far more reasonable interpretation.

ur mistake was thinking that russiagaters are reasonable

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Peanut President posted:

THIS JUST IN RUSSIANS INVENT TIME TRAVEL, GO BACK TO THE LATE 60s TO SOW DISCORD IN AMERICA!!!!!!! :frogsiren:

drat bro, can't believe Putin traveled back to 1918 and shot the Tsar himself

Trumps Baby Hands
Mar 27, 2016

Silent white light filled the world. And the righteous and unrighteous alike were consumed in that holy fire.
I’m re-reading Fire and Fury and it holds the gently caress up, especially post-Mueller report. These two paragraphs pretty much sum up the entire essence of the russia thing



That was published in Jan 2018. good thing we spent another year investigating it though

KillerQueen
Jul 13, 2010

Peanut President posted:

THIS JUST IN RUSSIANS INVENT TIME TRAVEL, GO BACK TO THE LATE 60s TO SOW DISCORD IN AMERICA!!!!!!! :frogsiren:

hosed up how Russia forced America to participate in the Atlantic slave trade.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

i wonder sometimes just how insane all this stuff must sound to actual russians like they have their own news where they can clearly see that donald trump is pushing bad foreign policy that is completely antithetical to russian interests which our own media is just completely ignoring

Vomik
Jul 29, 2003

This post is dedicated to the brave Mujahideen fighters of Afghanistan

Some Guy TT posted:

i wonder sometimes just how insane all this stuff must sound to actual russians like they have their own news where they can clearly see that donald trump is pushing bad foreign policy that is completely antithetical to russian interests which our own media is just completely ignoring

Americans can see that too but still believe the media message. so most likely Russian media is talking about the power of Putin to control the president

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

oh i have no doubt that pro putin media is milking this for all its worth "the american president is not my personal plaything wink wink" is worth a million shirtless horse riding photos in propaganda value

Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN
A few of the anti-Putin Russians that write for places like the New Yorker have tried to explain how insane Russia-gate is and how absurd it sounds to actual Russians but the message never got through:

quote:

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/the-fundamental-uncertainty-of-muellers-russia-indictments

Trump’s tweet about Moscow laughing its rear end off was unusually (perhaps accidentally) accurate. Loyal Putinites and dissident intellectuals alike are remarkably united in finding the American obsession with Russian meddling to be ridiculous. The intellectuals are amused to see Americans so struck by an indictment that adds virtually nothing to a piece published in the Russian media outlet RBC, back in October; I wrote at the time that the article showed the Russian effort to be more of a cacophony than a conspiracy. The Kremlin and its media are, as Joshua Yaffa writes, tickled to be taken so seriously. Their sub-grammatical imitations of American political rhetoric, their overtures to the most marginal of political players, are suddenly at the very heart of American political life. This is the sort of thing Russians have done for decades, dating back at least to the early days of the Cold War, but those efforts were always relegated to the dustbin of history before they even began.

Goldman, the Facebook V.P., has seen more of the Russian ads and posts than most Americans, and his imagination clearly strains to accommodate the push to take them seriously. It’s hard to square words like “sophisticated” (frequently used by the Times to describe the Russian campaign) with posts like one from an apparently fake L.G.B.T. group promoting something called “Buff Bernie: A Coloring Book for Berniacs” with catchy English-language copy: “The coloring is something that suits for all people.” It’s hard to apply the description “bold covert effort” (used by Politico) to the enormous amount of social-network static that Russian trolls produced. To Goldman, it may all look like a giant gray mass in which only a few colorful ads and posts have any meaning—and that meaning is hard to discern.

The need to see the Russian effort as somehow meaningful and masterly has produced its own experts in the field. Molly McKew, who identifies as an “information warfare expert,” has said that, back in the day, Soviet intelligence designed a “ninety/ten” approach in order to “embed” its agents in political communities: ninety per cent of what they produced mirrored what they saw, so that they could blend in before starting to sow discord. This idea makes so much sense that it doesn’t seem to matter that McKew offers no source for it or, indeed, any credentials for her own expertise. She is the C.E.O. of a company called Fianna Strategies, which seems to be a tiny Washington-based lobbying operation that has worked for the opposition parties in Georgia and Moldova. McKew’s “information warfare expertise” appears entirely self-styled, yet so great is our need for a rational interpretation of incomprehensible events that recently she has published extensively in Politico and appeared on Slate’s Trumpcast. Russians, meanwhile, have laughed parts of their anatomy off over her coverage of the Gerasimov Doctrine, which is a thing that, well, doesn’t exist.

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

Victory Position posted:

drat bro, can't believe Putin traveled back to 1918 and shot the Tsar himself

what the, I like putin now?

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

(and can't post for 6 days!)

gradenko_2000 posted:




you'd think that all these loving goobers bragging about their time in the intelligence services would have an ounce of OpSec

so is he gonna turn himself in or???

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
what kind of fakeass name is john sipher

SSJ_naruto_2003
Oct 12, 2012



Al! posted:

what kind of fakeass name is john sipher

It made me think of Syphon Filter for the first time in a decade so

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Ytlaya posted:

The thing confuses me about the "Trump taking orders from Putin" take is that it seems far more likely that Trump just likes and respects Putin and is willing to take his advice as a result (and at that point it's unclear what makes that specifically treason, as opposed to US leaders consulting with the leaders of any other country).

Even if you think that Trump's opinions are a reflection of Putin's desires (which is itself kind of dubious), this seems like the far more reasonable interpretation.
Trump has many major policy positions directly opposed to Putin and Russia's interests that makes no sense at all if Trump really was a manchurian candidate, so it's just an outright mccarthyist fabrication. Also even more hilariously, trump would be far better if he was actually taking putin's side on these policies and would be far more deserving of the nobel peace prize than obama.

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1128063596204822529

https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1129470917392904193

https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1130904503413350401

https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1132829466646990848

https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1132830844589101057

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

sigh... if only

Trumps Baby Hands
Mar 27, 2016

Silent white light filled the world. And the righteous and unrighteous alike were consumed in that holy fire.

quote:

Noted GOP pollster Frank Luntz appeared with Howard Kurtz on the Fox “MediaBuzz” program. It was typical ring-around-the-collar news marketing, telling audiences something scary, i.e. Americans are going commie! Kurtz said a poll of 1,000 respondents found that 52 percent of Hillary Clinton voters agreed with the sentence, “I prefer to live in a socialist country than a capitalist one.”

The interesting part of the Luntz poll was that 16 percent of Trump voters agreed with the same statement about socialism.

Trumps Baby Hands
Mar 27, 2016

Silent white light filled the world. And the righteous and unrighteous alike were consumed in that holy fire.
hmm, it would seem that bernie would have won,

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
drat Matt Taibbi really is one of the few names you can trust

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

gradenko_2000 posted:

sigh... if only

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

gradenko_2000 posted:

sigh... if only

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004


https://twitter.com/Bully4You2/status/1128064644424327168

A Handed Missus
Aug 6, 2012


putin teleported to the oval office, "put his cock in trump's mouth" and told him to pull all U.S. forces out of Syria or else kompromat!!

yet they're still there :thunk:

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

now ask this person what they think of all the drone strikes on innocent Muslims that Obama did

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5zQpN28xa4

Trumps Baby Hands
Mar 27, 2016

Silent white light filled the world. And the righteous and unrighteous alike were consumed in that holy fire.

mods, pls change my username to “Bernie & soc media Bros abuse by ‘doubt damage’”

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

stalin and hitler doing the fusion dance, turning into bernie sanders

Trumps Baby Hands
Mar 27, 2016

Silent white light filled the world. And the righteous and unrighteous alike were consumed in that holy fire.
Miss scratch that, change my username to “Creating Doubt Damage: Bernie’s method of harming”

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

cnn uncritically a stenographer for the trump justice department's characterization of assange
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22tkTjBZin8

chuck todd and msnbc calling assange not a journalist therefore he should not be protected in a similar manner to the pentagon papers release
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVJYWTY6NG0

Slutitution
Jun 26, 2018

by Nyc_Tattoo
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1133497360980598784

crazy cloud
Nov 7, 2012

by Cyrano4747
Lipstick Apathy

yeah shut up glenn all the poo poo in the dossier has been proven true and the piss tape is real so

Percelus
Sep 9, 2012

My command, your wish is

crazy cloud posted:

yeah shut up glenn all the poo poo in the dossier has been proven true and the piss tape is real so

poe's law'd again

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

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gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1134282759013306369

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