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May 24, 2019 22:19
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Plorkyeran posted:it's spotlight yeah. you have to temporarily turn it off if you were hoping to use your computer the same day you install mojave 
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May 24, 2019 22:24
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mo-jave "jave" means "slow"
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May 24, 2019 22:29
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“Something something something, self-throttling that would put David Carradine to shame, something something something”.
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May 24, 2019 22:32
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infernal machines posted:lmao. idk what the post install process for mojave is doing but holy poo poo, it manages to make the computer completely unusable is that with a spinny drive or did they manage to slam enough i/o to make even an ssd unusably busy
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May 24, 2019 22:33
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Plorkyeran posted:it wasn't an issue until mojave, so it's probably just a bug in the throttling rather than a lack of any throttling People were complaining about this back in the Snow Leopard days, even. And with macs os being legacy/abandonware, it's probably never getting fixed.
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May 24, 2019 22:36
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7200 rpm 1tb drive in a 2014 imac weirdly, activity monitor shows that there's constant disk usage, but seemly not enough to explain how completely unusable the system becomes for anything that has to be loaded from disk
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May 24, 2019 22:37
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Shifty Pony posted:I'm pretty sure I've seen people complaining about performance immediately post-install for several macOS releases now. is it just horribly worse in Mojave? yeah, a lot worse. it's always been slow but in previous versions the machine was at least usable while it was happening
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May 24, 2019 22:43
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apple: i/o queuing is for chumps
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May 24, 2019 22:45
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still better than macos9 halting the entire system to index
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May 24, 2019 22:48
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apple engineer 1: spinning disks? iphones don't have spinning disks, right? apple engineer 2: of course not! apple engineer 1: thought so. *deletes a bunch of 'unused' I/O code*
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May 24, 2019 22:51
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they really should just stop selling macs with spinny drive only
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May 24, 2019 22:53
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SRQ posted:still better than macos9 halting the entire system 
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May 24, 2019 22:55
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Last Chance posted:they really should just stop selling macs
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May 24, 2019 22:55
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Fiedler posted:apple engineer 1: spinning disks? iphones don't have spinning disks, right? probably reading apfs through a shim since no one had time to code up a native api
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May 24, 2019 23:04
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if steve wasn't dead apple would have stopped selling HDDs in 2014.
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May 24, 2019 23:07
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Last Chance posted:they really should just stop selling macs
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May 24, 2019 23:26
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Chris Knight posted:probably reading apfs through a shim since no one had time to code up a native api lmao. wouldn't that be something? hey, i know, let's automatically convert volumes to apfs even where it will have a massively detrimental impact on performance and no upsides at all!
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May 24, 2019 23:33
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infernal machines posted:lmao. wouldn't that be something? quote:Apple File System uses checksums to ensure data integrity for metadata, but not user data. thank god my "last modified date" is safe, good thing i don't give a poo poo about the file itself!
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May 24, 2019 23:52
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akadajet posted:Teenage engineering is hipster garbage for morons.
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https://www.macrumors.com/2019/05/24/angela-ahrendts-apple-retail-criticism/quote:Angela Ahrendts on Apple Retail Criticism: 'I Don't Read Any of it, and None of it is Based on Fact' 
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May 25, 2019 00:23
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in a meritocracy her opinion is objectively better than yours or even worse verge commenters so...
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May 25, 2019 00:27
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the bloomberg article it’s based on is a graceful backhand, kudos to the writer
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May 25, 2019 00:30
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SRQ posted:if steve wasn't dead apple would have stopped selling HDDs in 2014. if steve wasn't dead ssds would have remained an enterprise and prosumer curiosity in everything other than handheld devices
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May 25, 2019 00:33
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:https://www.macrumors.com/2019/05/24/angela-ahrendts-apple-retail-criticism/ every executive ever: what are these 'problems' you're taking about? my subordinates assure me that everything is going better than ever!
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El_Elegante posted:the bloomberg article it’s based on is a graceful backhand, kudos to the writer * Bloomberg, of course, is the publication that published “The Big Hack” in October — a sensational story alleging that data centers of Apple, Amazon, and dozens of other companies were compromised by China’s intelligence services. The story presented no confirmable evidence at all, was vehemently denied by all companies involved, has not been confirmed by a single other publication (despite much effort to do so), and has been largely discredited by one of Bloomberg’s own sources. By all appearances “The Big Hack” was complete bullshit. Yet Bloomberg has issued no correction or retraction, and seemingly hopes we’ll all just forget about it. I say we do not just forget about it. Bloomberg’s institutional credibility is severely damaged, and everything they publish should be treated with skepticism until they retract the story or provide evidence that it was true. 
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May 25, 2019 02:16
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just loving lol if you don't think the prc has hacked apple and amazon
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why would they need to? amazon and apple would give them complete access if it resulted in getting more of a foothold in the china market
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i'm sorry, but that theory is insufficiently yellow menace it's not even inscrutable
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Bloomberg is and always has been trash. See also: Everyone else reporting on tech.
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Best Bi Geek Squid posted:mo-jave did anyone say mo-jave mo-problems yet? oh really? a year ago? drat
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May 25, 2019 08:38
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did anyone say installing the mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter yet
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SRQ posted:so i got a g4/500/agp recently and it's kinda hilarious how far we've slid. can i interest you in a 900MHz accelerator card? otherwise it's going in the recycling. possibly other bits
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Chris Knight posted:can i interest you in a 900MHz accelerator card? otherwise it's going in the recycling. possibly other bits if he doesnt want it, i too hoard mac trash. i wonder if it would work in a cube
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Raluek posted:if he doesnt want it, i too hoard mac trash. i wonder if it would work in a cube nice of you to volunteer to throw it into the trash for him
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May 25, 2019 21:42
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Chris Knight posted:can i interest you in a 900MHz accelerator card? otherwise it's going in the recycling. possibly other bits wth chris, we're practically neighbours, how could you do me like this?
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Wild EEPROM posted:nice of you to volunteer to throw it into the trash for him i have so many trash receptacles. infernal machines posted:wth chris, we're practically neighbours, how could you do me like this? sounds like this guy does too, judging by his username
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