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yo mamma a Horus posted:Yeah, which one is your favorite?
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swickles posted:You definitely missed some things then.
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Mar 21, 2019 06:31
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diego < apeguy < cha-cha < vanya < rumour < No.5 < Hazel < Klaus < Ben < Narrator of Flavorful Origins < Everyone else in Russian Doll < Oatmeal
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Mar 21, 2019 07:39
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My favourite part of the show was the female lead who had no agency in her entire story until she went kill-crazy and had to be stopped. No, wait, maybe it was the random flashback to establish that she'd always been a sociopathic killer, so the family patriarch really was justified in taking away her power. Hmm, I also liked the textbook fridging of the Detective, that was a fun and original twist. And presenting the black woman as having used her powers to attain unearned status and popularity, then literally silencing her for the last couple of episodes, I thought that was worth mentioning. Oh, and the pudgy white guy assassin getting a happy ending, while the black woman is unceremoniously killed in the apocalypse, I didn't see that coming! Really, there were so many interesting choices made in the show!
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Mar 21, 2019 08:52
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swickles posted:Yes. It has good pacing, which is the primary criticism of all comic book shows on any streaming service jesus christ
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Mar 21, 2019 10:37
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Show may suck but it's at least better than this thread
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Mar 21, 2019 10:53
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Angry Salami posted:My favourite part of the show was the female lead who had no agency in her entire story until she went kill-crazy and had to be stopped. I liked how literally none of that was part of the source material.
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Mar 21, 2019 12:42
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Show is fun and I am curious where they go in a second season as it seems like they pulled a lot from the comics already.
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Mar 21, 2019 15:05
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Sounds like captain marvel is more for you then This is not a superhero show. It's about drama with damaged people and they just have super powers. None of the characters have it great.
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Mar 21, 2019 15:43
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Old man kills himself so team can re-form to stop end of the world. But old man's death is what triggered the events that began the apocalypse. Great plan, old man?
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Mar 21, 2019 15:59
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Last ep: Did Vanya intend to bring down the moon or did she loose control by accident/due to being startled?
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Mar 21, 2019 18:22
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Avalerion posted:Last ep: Did Vanya intend to bring down the moon or did she loose control by accident/due to being startled? I think she was unconscious at that point, wasn't she? Allison had just fired the gun right next to her head, which knocks her out for whatever reason. And then the laser beam shoots out of her, which just so happens to be aimed directly at the moon. I didn't see Vanya having any specific plan really, it seemed like she just wanted to gently caress things up at that point.
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Avalerion posted:Last ep: Did Vanya intend to bring down the moon or did she loose control by accident/due to being startled? lost control nooneofconsequence posted:Old man kills himself so team can re-form to stop end of the world. But old man's death is what triggered the events that began the apocalypse. Great plan, old man? I think everything that happens to the seven kids is extremely understandable and sympathetic. Even Vanya. Especially Vanya. I see a little bit of my own anxiety in many scenes with her. She's not TV-show crazy, she's traumatized, socially isolated, and not thinking straight because Leonard intentionally got her off of her medication. Reginald is an inhumanly lovely science dad whose every decision is terrible, but sometimes parents are loving poo poo. Homeschoolers are a thing in real life too, so are orphanages. Sometimes parents inflict a bunch of terrible and nonsensical decisions on their kids instead of a childhood or preparation for the outside world. That also means, though, Reginald is a weak point of the show. Which is fine. He's not in it for the most part. Except I'm kind of worried about that particular twist and season 2 because Reginald knowing about the apocalypse is going to mean there's a closed time loop and I don't see how that will work without being horribly lovely. I really, really wish season 1 just ended with stopping Vanya..
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Hemingway To Go! posted:Reginald is an inhumanly lovely science dad whose every decision is terrible, but sometimes parents are loving poo poo. Plus there's... him not actually being a human, that was a nice touch in hindsight! Though I'm not sure what exactly we were supposed to take away from his flashback.
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Mar 21, 2019 19:24
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nooneofconsequence posted:Old man kills himself so team can re-form to stop end of the world. But old man's death is what triggered the events that began the apocalypse. Great plan, old man? Old man gathers a team of superpowered kids to stop the end of the world. But old man being such a tremendous rear end in a top hat towards one of the kids is what triggered the events that began the apocalypse. Great plan, old man?
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Mar 21, 2019 19:58
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Angry Salami posted:My favourite part of the show was the female lead who had no agency in her entire story until she went kill-crazy and had to be stopped. Imagine this being the first thing you read when the forums come back up
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Mar 21, 2019 20:08
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precision posted:Imagine this being the first thing you read when the forums come back up sad
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Mar 21, 2019 20:21
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My favorite part was the monkey dramatically saying, "Now is the time to reveal the last secret." after crazy girl had already been hosed with and started killing people. Maybe you could have warned people, monkey!
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Mar 21, 2019 20:45
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To be fair to the monkey she only attacked Alison the night before so it's not like he waited weeks to say anything. The whole season only takes place over the course of eight days.
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Mar 21, 2019 20:51
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The "I Think We're Alone Now" dance scene is loving art
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Mar 21, 2019 21:51
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precision posted:Imagine this being the first thing you read when the forums come back up Everything in that post is right though
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Mar 21, 2019 22:36
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most people who watch the tv show like a tv show and not like you're looking for YA novel writers to harass on twitter actually find Vanya to be an extremely sympathetic portrayal of mental issues, and it's important to have those when you have poo poo like mainstream horror or Harley Quinn feel very tired just looking at the rest of it so whatever.
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Mar 21, 2019 22:45
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idk the only thing that I would say is accurate is the fridging of the cop, which was p lame. Everything else though I'd say is fairly subjective. The issues that poster has w/ minorities I respect, but personally I'm just happy the cast isn't 100% white like they seem to be in the comic. I liked Rumor's storyline personally. Having that power and not using it for yourself would be hard as gently caress. Her literally getting silenced later was a bit on the nose tho, curious to see if they'll have it last or have her heal enough to speak again. And Vanya's storyline was about her having next to no agency due to being pushed aside and tricked into taking suppressive drugs her whole life and being heavily depressed and medicated so  I thought it was well done.
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Mar 21, 2019 23:05
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Where was the monkey's backstory? Was he a man that became a monkey? Brain transfer? Monkey injected with brain juice?
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Mar 21, 2019 23:11
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The world of the comics is much less grounded than the Netflix show, so in the comics there are talking chimps and Martian apes and they just exist. Luther's head is grafted onto a Martian ape body in the comics, and the detective that Diego works with is an old man who has a talking chimp as a partner. There are a lot of changes they made to characters from the comics.
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Mar 21, 2019 23:16
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what I want to know is what happened to the other 36 spontaneous births that old man couldn't buy
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Watermelon Daiquiri posted:what I want to know is what happened to the other 36 spontaneous births that old man couldn't buy Options for villains, I figure.
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Mar 22, 2019 00:17
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Angry Salami posted:My favourite part of the show was the female lead who had no agency in her entire story until she went kill-crazy and had to be stopped. And how about the leader of the global conspiracy organization speaking Yiddish? Just a lot of weird choices in this show.
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Mar 22, 2019 00:26
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I liked it but wish it was only like four episodes.
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May 26, 2019 14:51
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Watermelon Daiquiri posted:what I want to know is what happened to the other 36 spontaneous births that old man couldn't buy They mostly died, because it turns out that freakish mutations that radically alter the nature of what it means to be human mostly aren't stable.
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May 26, 2019 15:19
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precision posted:Rebuttal: this show owns D Tier: Exposition Monkey
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May 26, 2019 20:43
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the show reminded me a lot of venture bros but less competent and often too serious for its own good. the show was at its best when it was just stylish scenes set to pop music and at its worst when it wanted to be serious and brooding (diego is the absolute worst). i agree with the criticisms about the female characters. it was disheartening that every woman, from vanya to the doughnut lady, lacked agency and served mainly as vehicles to move the male story arcs forward. i found vanya and rumor's relationship to be genuinely interesting but the show barely explores that with any depth and their big, dramatic confrontation toward the end of the show feels unearned.
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May 26, 2019 22:07
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Well, DC universe doom patrol had ended Anyone who watched both doom patrol and umbrella academy want to say which show good or show bad? They are kind of comparable I still don't get the hate for umbrella academy. It's a drama, some people are going to have a poo poo deal.
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May 26, 2019 22:26
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gently caress UA. Marry Doom Patrol. Kill Inhumans
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May 27, 2019 00:53
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Doom Patrol kicks seven shades of poo poo out of this show
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May 27, 2019 00:57
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I liked both but Doom Patrol does almost everything better.
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May 27, 2019 01:56
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DP is better because superhero poo poo is inherently stupid as gently caress and it embraces the goofiness. UA attempts drama and its mostly an attempt
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May 27, 2019 06:07
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I watched this show with my wife two months ago, and now just read this thread, and I can't remember any of these character's names now so this thread was very confusing.
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May 27, 2019 08:44
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QuoProQuid posted:the show reminded me a lot of venture bros but less competent and often too serious for its own good. the show was at its best when it was just stylish scenes set to pop music and at its worst when it wanted to be serious and brooding (diego is the absolute worst). I liked the bits where Vanya lacking agency was the whole idea - she's been manipulated and traumatised her entire life, and breaking out of that is terrifying. I thought Ellen Page did a great job (has she ever not?) and I would have loved more of her and Rumour, yeah. I did love how self indulgent the show was though. The gratuitous umbrellas, extended Think We're Alone Now moment, the drug trip arson music video. Even when the plot was kind of generic it was great to see them clearly making the show that they wanted to make. Its refreshing, when so much stuff, even "prestige" TV is pretty interchangeable
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yeah, vanya's depression-induced lack of agency and breaking through it was the whole point of the character.
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