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My hometown boasts a long operating drive in movie theater which during the day time is a big flea market (and used to have a free circus with elephants every day.) It's run by an insane old man that zips around on a golf carts and beats up vendors he has disagreements with. I think they still charge by the carload, but in any case they seem to be doing fine.
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AAA baseball is great. Tickets are like $10-$20 depending on the seats and my local ballpark has fireworks after Friday home games.
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May 28, 2019 01:14
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Cowslips Warren posted:With retail dropping like mad, do you think places like Costco will expand at all, or is there a chance the axe might drop on them too? stevewm posted:I also think some of it is that recent generations also may not care about sports nearly as much.... Iron Crowned posted:They're also more entertaining than major league games
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May 28, 2019 02:16
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BgRdMchne posted:AAA baseball is great. Tickets are like $10-$20 depending on the seats and my local ballpark has fireworks after Friday home games. Minor league baseball is cheap because the players get paid like $10k a season and the team employees, like front office staff, not concession people, make about $40k a year to have “general manager” and the like roles while working 90 hours a week.
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May 28, 2019 02:25
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Shrapnig posted:Minor league baseball is cheap because the players get paid like $10k a season and the team employees, like front office staff, not concession people, make about $40k a year to have “general manager” and the like roles while working 90 hours a week. Some of them do not get paid much but the average is not quite that low. 
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May 28, 2019 02:36
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How much is that average thrown off by the random former major league player on a minor league contract, or a rising prospect on a multi million dollar deal? E: the graphic says average and median are the same to the dollar so I'm skeptical of the number
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May 28, 2019 02:54
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brugroffil posted:How much is that average thrown off by the random former major league player on a minor league contract, or a rising prospect on a multi million dollar deal? I'd be curious of just AAA players who never played a game in the show.
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May 28, 2019 02:58
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quote:It’s easy to sympathize with a kid who is not a high draft pick yet longs to play in the majors. If he needs considerable development, he’ll likely start in Single-A ball. There, he would make approximately $1,600 per month on average for an A+ league or $1,300 per month for A, with many of the players living with host families. It is here that many question how a ballplayer is making a living wage. Single A really sucks for these dudes but the majority of them are young and developing talent to play in the majors.
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May 28, 2019 02:59
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brugroffil posted:E: the graphic says average and median are the same to the dollar so I'm skeptical of the number 'average' does not necessarily mean 'mean'. (And shouldn't when you're talking about salary per industry)
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May 28, 2019 03:09
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Real Fans will disagree, but baseball is such a static sport that it's arguably more exciting when it's played only semi-competently. Balls getting past the catcher, infielders booting plays, outfielders misjudging balls, base running mistakes etc. are exciting. Bad soccer or football or hockey or basketball is just bad. The feeder leagues of every sport are pretty depressing from a salary / odds of "making it" perspective.
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May 28, 2019 04:40
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pangstrom posted:Real Fans will disagree, but baseball is such a static sport that it's arguably more exciting when it's played only semi-competently. Balls getting past the catcher, infielders booting plays, outfielders misjudging balls, base running mistakes etc. are exciting. Bad soccer or football or hockey or basketball is just bad. The documentary on Netflix “The battered bastards of baseball” illustrates this pretty well. It’s a good watch.
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May 28, 2019 04:44
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GWBBQ posted:Baseball is too slow paced for younger generations (movies have been consistently getting faster paced, I suspect it can be generalized to sports but I'm not sure). Football has 4 or 5 decades left at max because our understanding of CTEs and subconcussive injuries will inevitably kill it off as people realize how risky it is and refuse to let their kids play. Basketball is fast paced, easy to follow (the big ball helps a lot), and it's easy to get into thanks to college leagues being such a big thing (at least in the US). NHL? HDTV saved the sport for sure, and I suspect we're going to see it become a less physical and more agile sport for the same reasons that American football is doomed. Hard disagree on most of the doom saying. MLB in 2018 takes absolutely forever to play. The same 18 minutes of actual play in the game has stretched out from 2 hours in 1946 to 3 hours now. It's not that people's attention spans are getting shorter, it's that the game is literally getting more boring by the year. Baseball can very much be a fun game to spectate, but it's just NOT right now. MLB has at least finally realized this, but they're going to have to cut into the very lucrative TV commercial time to fix it which is going to be an extremely painful decision for them, so it likely comes down to whether they're willing to let greed drive them extinct. Football won't stop because people realize how dangerous it is, as long as there's a fraction of the population that sees it as their ticket out of poverty, and we can as a society ignore that we're putting injuries onto a subclass as long as we get our entertainment. Don't expect to see fighting in hockey go away anytime soon, it's Soccer On Ice without it.
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May 28, 2019 12:16
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We will invent cybernetic humans not to treat disease but to save contact sports
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May 28, 2019 12:40
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People generally don’t like watching sports they don’t play. Which is why it’s taking so long for professional soccer to finally get a foothold. You needed a critical mass of people who had played the sport as children to support it as adults. Football in the next decade is going to be played by fewer and fewer youths. It’ll take a while for the sport to decline because it’s still got lots of momentum, but the next generation that doesn’t play it also won’t watch it.
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May 28, 2019 13:11
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I like watching baseball, but I fully admit that I'm not always in the mood for it, and I probably (almost certainly) like the idea of liking baseball more than I actually like baseball. Good writing about baseball, though, I've always got time for that.
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May 28, 2019 13:17
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pangstrom posted:Real Fans will disagree, but baseball is such a static sport that it's arguably more exciting when it's played only semi-competently. Balls getting past the catcher, infielders booting plays, outfielders misjudging balls, base running mistakes etc. are exciting. Bad soccer or football or hockey or basketball is just bad. Hell I'll agree. I once went to an Indians game in my teens and both pitchers were throwing perfectly until like the 6-7th inning when someone FINALLY got a good hit in. Before that it was just 3 up, 3 down, 3 up, 3 down, repeat. Goddamn that was the most boring game. There's pictures of my Dad and I asleep in the stands
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May 28, 2019 15:09
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That really is the thing about Major League Baseball, a whole lot of nothing happens. I mean most of the game, you'll have one team ahead because they got a single run. Then in the 8th inning, the other team gets a run, and the game goes 5 extra innings for similar reasons until someone ends the game with 4 runs.
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May 28, 2019 15:22
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You really need to be a drunk or interested in stats to enjoy baseball. Like those 1 hitter pitcher duels are boring unless you’re super into ERA and fielding numbers.
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May 28, 2019 15:53
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An average MLB game has 8-9 runs scored in it between both teams. Teams winning on just one or two runs scored is fairly uncommon. There's more scoring in baseball than in hockey. Baseball's issue is the time spent in between pitches, which the league keeps toying with addressing in some way. MLB attendance has gone down slightly in 2017 and 2018, but had held steady for the 8 years before that. MLB has some stuff to fix, but it's not like it's a dead sport all of a sudden. It also benefits from being the only major sport on during the summer, and people like to go out in nice weather and drink at the park. It has some natural advantages.
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May 28, 2019 15:56
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They just need to have multiple balls in play at once. Makes pinball hella fun
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May 28, 2019 16:04
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vyst posted:They just need to have multiple balls in play at once. Makes pinball hella fun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQF8rQaIjUE
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May 28, 2019 16:10
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Baseball is only boring to boring people.
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May 28, 2019 16:15
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MarcusSA posted:Some of them do not get paid much but the average is not quite that low. The overwhelming majority of players arent in AAA.
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May 28, 2019 16:18
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:Baseball is only boring to boring people. Jokes on you! I don't like sports 
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May 28, 2019 16:32
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MarcusSA posted:Some of them do not get paid much but the average is not quite that low. Hey, I make more than the average minor leaguer. That feels... good I think?
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May 28, 2019 16:38
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A thought a baseball player named First Baseman died because someone didn't follow the style guide.
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May 28, 2019 16:43
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Volcott posted:A thought a baseball player named First Baseman died because someone didn't follow the style guide. Abbott and Costello, thou art avenged!
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May 28, 2019 16:58
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During my awkward early teenage years I liked basketball. Michael Jordan and Shaq were still playing, to give an indication on timeframe. Watching the crowd go nuts at college tourney games and Dick Vitale's colorful commentary was especially good. I had a cheap hoop in my driveway, and I had NBA Jam on SNES. I've seen enough American Football to understand the rules, mostly as a curiosity because my dad would get so worked up over it. I guess I kind of get the appeal of the sport but it is incredibly overblown and a huge waste of resources in student athletics, especially for public schools. Also the name is a misnomer and it bothers me. I'm hoping it will eventually go extinct so the real Football can take its own name back. And on that note, I don't know much about actual Football except it's the dominant sport pretty much everywhere except the US and Japan, although I imagine that has changed in the former over my lifetime due to our growing hispanic population. I like retro baseball video games (the basic formula that Famicom Baseball in '83 invented, and everyone else copied) but you'd have to pay me to watch it on TV. I did a couple times in high school because the guy who dated my crushes (more than once) was into it and I guess it was a "what's his secret" thing. As it turns out, he was more attractive and cooler than me, and baseball is incredibly boring to watch. WTF is ice hockey? I live in a southern state so it's pretty alien. The Nintendo game was fun I guess!
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May 28, 2019 20:41
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Ofecks posted:During my awkward early teenage years I liked basketball. Michael Jordan and Shaq were still playing, to give an indication on timeframe. Watching the crowd go nuts at college tourney games and Dick Vitale's colorful commentary was especially good. I had a cheap hoop in my driveway, and I had NBA Jam on SNES. I was reading this post and I was like ok yeah this person doesn’t live in the US.... You live in the south and thats how you talk about football? So very very odd. Real football is awesome though you should definitely learn about it. Going to a football game really is a lot of fun ( at least here in LA) because of how great the crowds are.
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May 28, 2019 20:46
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Ofecks posted:Also the name is a misnomer and it bothers me. I'm hoping it will eventually go extinct so the real Football can take its own name back. And on that note, I don't know much about actual Football except it's the dominant sport pretty much everywhere except the US and Japan, although that will likely change in the former due to our growing hispanic population. It's not really a misnomer, it just doesn't reflect the evolution of the game. Association football (what the rest of the world calls just football and we here in the US and a few other places call soccer (from the word association)), rugby football, American football, Australian football and probably some other stuff all share a common ancestor. Which one ended up getting called just football in any particular place was just probably whichever one ended up being most popular there.
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May 28, 2019 20:49
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I think that was very much a "Source your quotes" kind of post.
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May 28, 2019 20:51
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MarcusSA posted:Some of them do not get paid much but the average is not quite that low. The episode is a bit old now, but Freakonomics had a really good episode on quitting, and it includes a minor league baseball player who should have quit way earlier. http://freakonomics.com/podcast/new-freakonomics-radio-podcast-the-upside-of-quitting/
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MarcusSA posted:Real football is awesome though you should definitely learn about it. Going to a football game really is a lot of fun ( at least here in LA) because of how great the crowds are. The last time I went to an actual football game in the states, my team had a devastating 7-0 loss and by the end the supporters were booing them more than the other team, so I've vowed to stay away from actually going to the games in case I jinx them. It was super fun up until the score got to around 4-0 though. Also I ended up going down the rabbit hole and now I can't stop reading about football in all its forms.
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May 29, 2019 03:25
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It turns out the most badass sport is hurling. We just suck too much too play it. From my understanding there's not even a professional league, so all the players have real jobs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmzivRetelE
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May 29, 2019 06:29
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Glenn Quebec posted:Hey, I make more than the average minor leaguer. That feels... good I think? Alternatively, I make less than the average minor leaguer. Womp womp.
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May 29, 2019 07:04
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Despite being Australian I have a soft spot for American football (aka Gridiron) simply because it was the first sport in my life where the rules were actually explained to me rather than expecting me to already know them via osmosis or something. Baseball sounds like it has many of the same problems as cricket minus millions of fanatical followers in Asia and the Caribbean.
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https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/30/business/lacroix-sales/index.htmlquote:"The LaCroix brand has gone from bad, to worse, to disastrous in a relatively short period of time," Grandet said, citing increased competition for similar-type beverages and the "lack of meaningful or disruptive innovation" from the drink's owner, National Beverage. quote:In his note, Grandet also blamed inexperienced management from its parent company, National Beverage (FIZZ). He said it's "unlikely that LaCroix can recover to any meaningful degree while in the hands of National Beverage." 
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May 31, 2019 00:47
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For once, a company whose product I've literally poured down the drain. One sip and I had enough of that crap.
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Not sure why CNN's just now reporting on it, we went over this a month or two ago.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Baseball sounds like it has many of the same problems as cricket minus millions of fanatical followers in Asia and the Caribbean. At least baseball ends in one day, mostly.
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