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Captain Foo: May 11, 2004; we vibin'
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DONT THREAD ON ME posted:

i call them megastinktastic variables

# ? Jun 3, 2019 14:18

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# ? May 18, 2024 17:13

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

I think the most common use of brackets in tsql is for objects named using reserved words.

# ? Jun 3, 2019 14:38

CRIP EATIN BREAD: Jun 24, 2002; Hey stop worrying bout my acting bitch, and worry about your WACK ass music. In the mean time... Eat a hot bowl of Dicks! Ice T; Soiled Meat

cinci zoo sniper posted:

there is a rather stark difference between swearing at your computer, which no one should give a poo poo about unless you're calling your computer a gently caress at 120 dB in your open space office, and slinging personal insults at other people for whatever reason

i mean i dont call someone a "loving idiot" but i will often come up with "what the gently caress were you thinking?" or "gently caress why did you do that?"

# ? Jun 3, 2019 15:29

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

open offices are a hostile work environment regardless of behavior

# ? Jun 3, 2019 15:37

Carthag Tuek: Oct 15, 2005; Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
sl�gt skal f�lge sl�gters gang

Shaggar posted:

open offices are a hostile work environment regardless of behavior

fuckin' a

# ? Jun 3, 2019 15:39

distortion park: Apr 25, 2011

CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:

i mean i dont call someone a "loving idiot" but i will often come up with "what the gently caress were you thinking?" or "gently caress why did you do that?"

both seem kind of aggressive to me although i suppose it depends on the context and tone.

# ? Jun 3, 2019 15:44

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

someone in my office is creating a hostile work environment thru some awful smelling perfume/lotion/spray.

# ? Jun 3, 2019 15:46

Chalks: Sep 30, 2009

CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:

i mean i dont call someone a "loving idiot" but i will often come up with "what the gently caress were you thinking?" or "gently caress why did you do that?"

i often call code loving dumb and broken but i hope nobody is offended because more often than not i turn out to be the guy who wrote it

# ? Jun 3, 2019 15:50

Sapozhnik: Jan 2, 2005; Nap Ghost

i mean that's the justification lkml uses and i wouldn't call that an entirely healthy social environment

"calling code loving stupid is fine as long as you don't call people loving stupid. code is like virtual quantum particles, it just springs into existence spontaneously *composes twelfth What The gently caress Were You Thinking email of the day*"

# ? Jun 3, 2019 15:59

Chalks: Sep 30, 2009

basically everyone needs to realise that we all write dumb code sometimes, there is no shame in it, it is just that when it comes down to it we are all a bit dumb

# ? Jun 3, 2019 16:20

cinci zoo sniper: Mar 15, 2013

Fiedler posted:

sql server has alarmingly few restrictions on object names. dots are allowed in object names. brackets are allowed in object names. you can have a column literally named "[dbo].[table1].[column1]":
create table dbo.table1 ([[dbo]].[table1]].[column1]]] int)

which naturally you would query like so:
select [dbo].[table1].[[dbo]].[table1]].[column1]]] from dbo.table1

Kilometres Davis posted:

this is violence

# ? Jun 3, 2019 16:59

cinci zoo sniper: Mar 15, 2013

pointsofdata posted:

both seem kind of aggressive to me although i suppose it depends on the context and tone.

agreed

# ? Jun 3, 2019 17:00

Bloody: Mar 3, 2013

Shaggar posted:

open offices are a hostile work environment regardless of behavior

# ? Jun 3, 2019 17:27

cinci zoo sniper: Mar 15, 2013

Symbolic Butt posted:

I'm not sure if I understood the problem but I feel like you should store the diff steps as a trie (or like partial hash entries?)

if you can, try to make it more concrete with some code, like

Python code:

# get libs

import random
import copy

# remember, this is not a code review

baz = {"latest_foo": {"chome": 219}, "foos": [{"chome": 219}]}

num_foo = 5

bar_keys = ["chome", "mome", "lo", "marf", "tayne", "etc"]
bar_values = [69, 219, 420]


def do_a_bar(previous_bar, keys, values):
    key = random.choice(keys)
    value = random.choice(values)
    previous_bar[key] = value
    return previous_bar


for i in range(1, num_foo):
    fart = do_a_bar(baz["latest_foo"], bar_keys, bar_values)
    baz["latest_foo"] = copy.deepcopy(fart)
    baz["foos"].append(copy.deepcopy(fart))

the idea is to go into baz["foos"] and retroactively reproduce each append that happened

# ? Jun 3, 2019 17:47

cinci zoo sniper: Mar 15, 2013

tbh it's even more impressively bad now that i've had to code a faithful reproduction of system in action

# ? Jun 3, 2019 17:52

Soricidus: Oct 21, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

Shaggar posted:

open offices are a hostile work environment regardless of behavior

shaggar was right

# ? Jun 3, 2019 18:43

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

im not really opposed to open offices in theory, because in theory i like my coworkers and we�re working on something we care about and the serious collaboration ive done has always been my best work.

in reality i hate my coworkers and we�re making garbage and i need a place to drink

# ? Jun 3, 2019 18:51

Soricidus: Oct 21, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

DONT THREAD ON ME posted:

im not really opposed to open offices in theory, because in theory i like my coworkers and we�re working on something we care about and the serious collaboration ive done has always been my best work.

none of these things have anything to do with open offices though?

e.g. if you like your coworkers then you are less likely to want to disturb them by trying to collaborate with someone else at the desk next to them, for example.

# ? Jun 3, 2019 19:08

distortion park: Apr 25, 2011

DONT THREAD ON ME posted:

im not really opposed to open offices in theory, because in theory i like my coworkers and we’re working on something we care about and the serious collaboration ive done has always been my best work.

in reality i hate my coworkers and we’re making garbage and i need a place to drink

If they aren't used to reduce space used per employee and have plenty of soft furnishings etc they can be OK but that's like 1 in 100

# ? Jun 3, 2019 20:10

Powerful Two-Hander: Mar 10, 2004; Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.

well I just wasted 3 months trying to get these vendor apps upgraded and talking to each other because it turns out they "talked" by sharing copies of the same jar files so now that one app got bought by someone else that changed the class names from foo.CompanyA to foo.CompanyB and now everything is ffuuckkkked. gj building a loosely coupled system vendor devs, well done.

this is blocking like 3 other big projects so people are going to be super pissed but I'm feeling so burned out from dealing with it and the other 100 "critical" projects there's no one else to deal with I just can't bring myself to care

# ? Jun 3, 2019 20:16

supabump: Feb 8, 2014

ever since switching to an open floorplan, my idea of work is now inextricably linked with the sound of white noise through noise-cancelling headphones

pointsofdata posted:

If they aren't used to reduce space used per employee and have plenty of soft furnishings etc they can be OK but that's like 1 in 100

the only soft furnishing we have is the beat up couch I had in my office before we switched over

# ? Jun 3, 2019 20:18

MrMoo: Sep 14, 2000

So who's going 32" portrait mode terrible coding?

Only $6k, god drat apple.

# ? Jun 3, 2019 20:31

cinci zoo sniper: Mar 15, 2013

MrMoo posted:

So who's going 32" portrait mode terrible coding?

Only $6k, god drat apple.

i've actually tried this with a vesa-mounted 30" 21:9 panel and it's very awkward

# ? Jun 3, 2019 20:32

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

MrMoo posted:

So who's going 32" portrait mode terrible coding?

Only $6k, god drat apple.

when you turn your monitor off it resembles a rococo portrait

# ? Jun 3, 2019 20:33

CPColin: Sep 9, 2003; Big ol' smile.

My eye muscles are tired just from that image!

# ? Jun 3, 2019 20:40

Soricidus: Oct 21, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

MrMoo posted:

So who's going 32" portrait mode terrible coding?

Only $6k, god drat apple.

$6k? a shameful cheappost. it's $7k if you want a stand and the work-appropriate non-mirror surface. or i guess only $6200 if you go full professional and get the vesa mount instead of the proprietary stand.

# ? Jun 3, 2019 21:03

Progressive JPEG: Feb 19, 2003

pointsofdata posted:

If they aren't used to reduce space used per employee and have plenty of soft furnishings etc they can be OK but that's like 1 in 100

no that's 0 in 100

it's for saving money on rent, nothing else is even a consideration

# ? Jun 3, 2019 21:12

pseudorandom: Jun 16, 2010; Yam Slacker

Progressive JPEG posted:

no that's 0 in 100

it's for saving money on rent, nothing else is even a consideration

Eh, my last job was in an open office. We each had our own full size desk, so it could have easily been tiny cubicles instead, so it definitely wasn't to save money on rent.

It was to save money on furniture because ikea desks are cheap as poo poo and real office furniture is pricey.

# ? Jun 3, 2019 21:44

pokeyman: Nov 26, 2006; That elephant ate my entire platoon.

Powerful Two-Hander posted:

well I just wasted 3 months trying to get these vendor apps upgraded and talking to each other because it turns out they "talked" by sharing copies of the same jar files so now that one app got bought by someone else that changed the class names from foo.CompanyA to foo.CompanyB and now everything is ffuuckkkked. gj building a loosely coupled system vendor devs, well done.

this is blocking like 3 other big projects so people are going to be super pissed but I'm feeling so burned out from dealing with it and the other 100 "critical" projects there's no one else to deal with I just can't bring myself to care

time for jar jar links!

# ? Jun 3, 2019 21:46

champagne posting: Apr 5, 2006; YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER

pseudorandom posted:

Eh, my last job was in an open office. We each had our own full size desk, so it could have easily been tiny cubicles instead, so it definitely wasn't to save money on rent.

It was to save money on furniture because ikea desks are cheap as poo poo and real office furniture is pricey.

I�ve worked in this terrible office and it turns out of management is cheating out on furniture they�re willing to buy the cheapest anything and make cheap decisions such as allowing two radios to play i a room of 20 people, or decide all hands to put decals on cars make sense in a room of somehow highly paid professionals

# ? Jun 3, 2019 22:50

leper khan: Dec 28, 2010; Honest to god thinks Half Life 2 is a bad game. But at least he likes Monster Hunter.

started doing some stuff with the server team here. go is such a godawful language for this, why would anyone use it willfully?

:smith:

# ? Jun 3, 2019 23:03

DELETE CASCADE: Oct 25, 2017; i haven't washed my penis since i jerked it to a phtotograph of george w. bush in 2003

leper khan posted:

started doing some stuff with the server team here. go is such a godawful language for this, why would anyone use it willfully?

google fetish

# ? Jun 3, 2019 23:31

eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

Shaggar posted:

open offices are a hostile work environment regardless of behavior

shaggar was right

# ? Jun 4, 2019 00:16

eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

DONT THREAD ON ME posted:

im not really opposed to open offices in theory,

you should be, because no matter how you feel about that collaboration, you were only a fraction as effective as you could be when you weren�t actively collaborating

have open spaces where you can go collaborate, and then private spaces where you can implement

# ? Jun 4, 2019 00:19

Soricidus: Oct 21, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

eschaton posted:

you should be, because no matter how you feel about that collaboration, you were only a fraction as effective as you could be when you weren�t actively collaborating

have open spaces where you can go collaborate, and then private spaces where you can implement

only managers think anyone "actively collaborates" in an open plan office

most workers are not in fact sociopaths and thus try to avoid interrupting anyone who seems to be trying to work. so what you actually end up with is people either giving up and just socialising, or working alone with headphones on to block out the noise (and signal that they aren�t available for socialising)

# ? Jun 4, 2019 00:32

Corla Plankun: May 8, 2007; improve the lives of everyone

most of the times I've seen go in real life it was because someone wanted to roll their own thing that's in the standard library of any other language on earth

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animist: Aug 28, 2018

ctps: https://docs.rs/runtime/ + async/await makes rust async remarkably bearable

# ? Jun 4, 2019 01:33

leftist heap: Feb 28, 2013; Fun Shoe

a little while ago our CEO got huffy because too few people were coming into the huge new office space and someone he was personally giving a tour remarked that it looked empty lol. he then went on to implore everyone to come into the office as much as possible because it would be better for morale. the ensuing open mic was all questions/comments on how awful it is to deal with people in the office.`

# ? Jun 4, 2019 01:37

CRIP EATIN BREAD: Jun 24, 2002; Hey stop worrying bout my acting bitch, and worry about your WACK ass music. In the mean time... Eat a hot bowl of Dicks! Ice T; Soiled Meat

ctps: me and a co-worker spent 12 hours debugging an issue today and by the end we wanted to kill each other and i wouldnt want it any other way.

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Fiedler: Jun 29, 2002; I, for one, welcome our new mouse overlords.

CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:

ctps: me and a co-worker spent 12 hours debugging an issue today and by the end we wanted to kill each other and i wouldnt want it any other way.

that's cool. how does your coworker like it?

# ? Jun 4, 2019 05:51

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