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Im 26 and know who starscream so back the gently caress up because transformers armada was tight
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AnEdgelord posted:Im 26 and know who starscream so back the gently caress up because transformers armada was tight Though that Starscream wasn't really a Starscream. (and apparently he originally wasn't even Starscream in the Japanese version) Thrust was more of a Starscream. Also Sideways.
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Jun 3, 2019 15:24
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people under 30 definitely know who starscream is. my younger cousins and nephews grew up on the wave of Transformers poo poo that came out following the Bay movies but also I don’t think it’s weird for somebody not to know who starscream is. everybody doesn’t have an encyclopedic knowledge of nerd bullshit
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Jun 3, 2019 15:29
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My favorite addition to Godzilla canon is Godzilla’s giant heating pad he recharges on like a big iguana
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Jun 3, 2019 16:23
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:My favorite addition to Godzilla canon is Godzilla’s giant heating pad he recharges on like a big iguana It's pretty rad that essentially R'lyeh is in the movie.
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Jun 3, 2019 16:27
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:My favorite addition to Godzilla canon is Godzilla’s giant heating pad he recharges on like a big iguana how did godzilla even get to his secret hideout anyway? like, I know the answer is hollow earth teleport tunnels but like, he was literally dead right then, they played his heartbeat on screen flatlining. Is the idea that he is so powerful that even dead he can walk around and go home?
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Jun 3, 2019 16:31
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Jonas Albrecht posted:It's pretty rad that essentially R'lyeh is in the movie. My dumb headcanon is the sunken ruins were what's left of Atlantis.
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Jun 3, 2019 16:50
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Kaiju Cage Match posted:My dumb headcanon is the sunken ruins were what's left of Atlantis. That's what I thought too. Uncle Boogeyman posted:My favorite addition to Godzilla canon is Godzilla’s giant heating pad he recharges on like a big iguana It was very 
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Jun 3, 2019 17:03
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:Oh, and if you’re wondering how all the Boston stuff played in a Boston area theater on opening night: very well. We got a spontaneous “YANKEES SUCK!” yell at one point and I almost died When they were evacuating Fenway I noticed that the standings board had the Yankees in last place. That had to be a condition for filming inside the park because it would be impossible as long as the Orioles exist.
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Jun 3, 2019 17:12
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:how did godzilla even get to his secret hideout anyway? like, I know the answer is hollow earth teleport tunnels but like, he was literally dead right then, they played his heartbeat on screen flatlining. Is the idea that he is so powerful that even dead he can walk around and go home? I assumed he went down one of those tunnels and they interpreted the fading signal as death.
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Jun 3, 2019 17:36
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Kaiju Cage Match posted:My dumb headcanon is the sunken ruins were what's left of Atlantis. I kinda assumed that and was a bit surprised they didn't specifically name it as such.
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Jun 3, 2019 17:51
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My favorite: Godzilla's derisive snort after he blew up Ghidorah's head at the end
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Jun 3, 2019 17:52
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2014 Godzilla I could see it being a contest if Kong had a growth spurt. But this Godzilla? My only guess is that they give Kong some weaponry, preferably a pair of 200 ft assault rifles. Otherwise he's getting his loving rear end kicked.
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Jun 3, 2019 17:52
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C. E. Croix posted:Now I want ORCA equipped Jet Jaguar escorting all the Titans. I'd prefer a super deep cut and replace him with Green Man or any of the other obscure toho toku properties. keet fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Jun 3, 2019 |
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Jun 3, 2019 17:53
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Xguard86 posted:I assumed he went down one of those tunnels and they interpreted the fading signal as death. I honestly have a really poor grasp in general on what specifically any of the bioacoustic signals did or were. Like they are obviously a movie magic mcguffin but they feel like they had a lot of properties that the movie acted like i should know about.
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Jun 3, 2019 17:55
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CityMidnightJunky posted:2014 Godzilla I could see it being a contest if Kong had a growth spurt. But this Godzilla? My only guess is that they give Kong some weaponry, preferably a pair of 200 ft assault rifles. Otherwise he's getting his loving rear end kicked. Kong gets a mech suit ala Batman V Superman. Then they team up over Mothra and fight Destroyah/Doomsday
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Jun 3, 2019 17:58
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CityMidnightJunky posted:2014 Godzilla I could see it being a contest if Kong had a growth spurt. But this Godzilla? My only guess is that they give Kong some weaponry, preferably a pair of 200 ft assault rifles. Otherwise he's getting his loving rear end kicked. Kong gonna fight him, Gymkata style.
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CityMidnightJunky posted:2014 Godzilla I could see it being a contest if Kong had a growth spurt. But this Godzilla? My only guess is that they give Kong some weaponry, preferably a pair of 200 ft assault rifles. Otherwise he's getting his loving rear end kicked. I loved the implication in the movie that Godzilla is actually not particularly good at fighting on land - I mean, he's a brick so he's still pretty good - but as a mostly-aquatic dude if he gets you in the water you're fuckin' toast.
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Jun 3, 2019 18:03
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Arcsquad12 posted:Kong gets a mech suit ala Batman V Superman. Then they team up over Mothra and fight Destroyah/Doomsday Godzilla: WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME!!!
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Jun 3, 2019 18:05
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So from what I understand is that it’s a significantly worse movie compared to Shin Godzilla which I think is probably one of my favorite films ever. I still don’t get the love for Godzilla 2014, never have never will.
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Jun 3, 2019 18:14
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:I honestly have a really poor grasp in general on what specifically any of the bioacoustic signals did or were. Like they are obviously a movie magic mcguffin but they feel like they had a lot of properties that the movie acted like i should know about. It does only one thing. It talks to kaiju. Either it can rile them up or it can calm them down. Only, with Ghidorah probably because he's from space it only ever pissed him off, probably because he has the same kind of "take command of kaiju" power that it has only stronger. WHen the Orca was on, it was loving up his ability to control kaiju, thus it was a challenge to him personally and had to be eliminated. Godzilla doesn't seem to have an innate ability to control other kaiju like Ghidorah can though by the end of the movie the kaiju that were present at Ghidorah's death knew who was boss now
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Jun 3, 2019 18:15
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:I honestly have a really poor grasp in general on what specifically any of the bioacoustic signals did or were. Like they are obviously a movie magic mcguffin but they feel like they had a lot of properties that the movie acted like i should know about. Monsters are big and communicate with big monster sonar that people can't hear but machines can detect. The "Alpha Signal" was just giant monster for "I am the boss!"  except with human added in, it became "we am the boss!" and since Ghidorah hates bad grammar he decided to kill us all. Also because we're small and puny it makes the other monsters want to fight us for dominance.Humans are Hedorah Godzilla in 2014 wasn't the boss, he didn't want that sort of pressure man, he just wanted to chill out in the pacific and take naps in Seatopia and where the gently caress did those bugs come from, goddamn it?! And then humans woke up that big yellow idiot, and Kong is threatening to run against him in the next general election, and now humans have an oxygen destroyer (which really hurt, by the way) and blew up his favorite napping place. He just wanted to swim in the ocean and look at fish!
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Jun 3, 2019 18:17
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I know the plot didn't give a drat, but I thought it was stupid that they nuked a huge archaeological finding to juice up Godzilla.
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Jun 3, 2019 18:29
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Azubah posted:I know the plot didn't give a drat, but I thought it was stupid that they nuked a huge archaeological finding to juice up Godzilla. If Godzilla lost there wouldn't be anyone around to study the joint.
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Jun 3, 2019 18:33
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Azubah posted:I know the plot didn't give a drat, but I thought it was stupid that they nuked a huge archaeological finding to juice up Godzilla. The reason for that is pretty clear. The whole movie is about how as the Titans slept the world lost balance. Pollution, extinction all the poo poo Graham mumbles about. The final straw is when Humans break the pact they had with Godzilla by hitting him with the oxygen destroyer showing how far humanity has departed the natural order. Back to the original scene where Godzilla buzzes the undersea monarch lab. Zilla knows that poo poo is going down and tells the humans, I have this poo poo as agreed upon so stay back. Hurt, godzilla returns to his seat of ancient power where he was worshiped and revered to heal and mourn how bad things became. This is why Mothra came, it heard her love in pain but couldnt get to him and asked the humans to help. Humanity then makes a sacred pilgrimage to renew the covenant through human sacrifice. Then the old, decayed and forgotten bond (the ancient city representing this pact) is wiped away and a new bond is restored. The whole scene is a giant loving religious ritual and the music backs it up too. Even loving more deep is Ishiro lost family to the Hiroshima Nuke and is all about maintaining balance. His talk about demons isnt for the guy who lost his son, its about himself and the nuke how the thing that took everything is going to be used to save everything. you could even argue that the godzilla that erupts from the sea is not the same godzilla as before per the new pact.
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So, one thing a lot of people get confused about with this movie is why it has such a heavy environmentalism message to it And that's one of those things that might seem odd at first and you really won't get unless you know why this film even exists And I mean, let's be clear here- tackling an important message like the environment and how it's changing for the worse and how we need to take responsibility for it, that's totally within Godzilla's wheel house. Godzilla was always had messages like that when it wanted to. But there is a VERY specific reason why it's such a huge thing in this movie. There was this dude named Yoshimitsu Banno. He was a director, but as a director he basically only got to make and write four movies. One of them was a Godzilla film. He put a lot of himself into this movie, and pushed hard his message of environmentalism and the need for humanity to fight pollution This movie was Godzilla VS Hedorah, one of the most infamous Godzilla films of all time It was made as a commentary on pollution, the drug and hippie culture of Japan in the 60s and early 70s, and the need to save the planet from ourselves. It is also the one where Godzilla flies, not unrelated to the whole drug thing. Tanaka, the main producer of the Godzilla films who had missed Hedorah entirely due to being busy, hated the movie. Hated that it was ever made. Hated Banno for making it. He blackballed Banno and banned him from ever working on another Toho project ever again, effectively killing his career Banno never let go of his dream, despite this. Over the years he staid in contact with Toho and after Tanaka's passing, started work on a project of his own. After the disaster of Godzilla 1998 and the middling returns of the Millennium Godzilla movies that followed from '99 to 2004, Banno approached American producers about a new Godzilla feature. Godzilla 3D To The Max, started in early 2005, was Banno's idea to make a new American Godzilla film that staid true t othe Japanese original, but for the modern era. He identified the growing climate change problem and created a new monster to embody it, and was set to have Godzilla face off with the monster in an IMAX exclusive short film, done exclusively in cutting edge 3D. For those who know their cinema history, this was right before 3D started becoming big. Banno was looking to the future in every regard. He got permission from Toho to get things going and ended up shopping his project to Legendary Pictures. Through his work and his negotiations, the project evolved and ended up becoming Godzilla 2014, which he was made Executive Producer of, and retained that title for King of the Monsters, despite his passing in 2017. This is why King of the Monsters has such a heavy environmental message to it. Not just because it's the right thing to do, but also to embrace and honor the man singularly responsible for it existing. Banno, black listed from Toho studios, the man responsible for saving the Godzilla franchise and reviving it in the new era. He and Nakajima, the original suit actor for Godzilla, were the two to get special mention in the credits of King of the Monsters, and Banno himself is who the film honors above all else. Not bad for the man who had Godzilla fly while fighting the giant pollution monster huh
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Burkion posted:It does only one thing. I thought the point was that it simply mimicked the call of a Titan and depending on the Titan who heard it they reacted differently. If an "alpha" heard it they would think it was a rival alpha to be defeated; when Mothra heard it she reacted the way she would to Godzilla (since it was a mixture of his voice with humans). Rodan seemed like a potential alpha contender who would fall into the pack mentality when defeated (but would then still be beholden to a specific alpha).
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One thing I can wholeheartedly recommend is the soundtrack. loved Mothra's theme playing during the end credits.The REAL Goobusters posted:So from what I understand is that it’s a significantly worse movie compared to Shin Godzilla which I think is probably one of my favorite films ever. I still don’t get the love for Godzilla 2014, never have never will. Yeah, completely different movie from both of those. no idea if you will like it or not.
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Jun 3, 2019 18:41
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Avalerion posted:For curiosity’s sake has anyone yet timed how much the monsters are on screen this time? The problem isn't the amount of screen time but that there's four monsters that the film has to develop and it ends up being a batman&robin/spiderman 3 situation.
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If I had to rate the American Kaiju films that have come out since 2013 it would look like this: 1: Pacific Rim 2: Kong Skull Island 3: King of the Monsters 4: Rampage 5: Godzilla '14 50: Pacific Rim Uprising
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Burkion posted:So, one thing a lot of people get confused about with this movie is why it has such a heavy environmentalism message to it This is fascinating and a bit of backstory that's heartwarming. Speaking of Nakajima: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCxeP2HLrcg
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Burkion posted:So, one thing a lot of people get confused about with this movie is why it has such a heavy environmentalism message to it I feel like the US godzilla movies stink because they take the anti-war/anti-nuclear weapons/pro environment messages and gut them down to such surface level. Like they kept it in but made it irrelevant. Real godzilla movies have messages, these movies kinda just throw them in as background.
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Burkion posted:So, one thing a lot of people get confused about with this movie is why it has such a heavy environmentalism message to it Thank you for this. I remember following the Godzilla 3D development (The enemy was going to be a swarming pollution insect that combined into a demonic Hedorah hybrid called Deathla).
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Balance with nature is easier to maintain when Nature is protected by 100,000 tonne behemoths that can kick your rear end if you don't respect the rules.
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That was a great Godzilla movie. I have thoughts. - At NO point did any kaiju play around. Rodan woke up and leveled a city five minutes later, like mass destruction was his cup of morning coffee. - The orca seemed to be this one's take on the various means of kaiju mind control that's shown up in previous movies. - Lol @ wolf pack alpha dynamics. A theory disclaimed by the guy who popularized it. But bad science in a genre that gave us the Absolute Zero Laser and the line "Gipsy's analog; nuclear." is a non-issue. - Mothra was clutch in every scene she was in (in moth form, anyway), and that was great. - Gidorah was really well done! - Seatopia! - That scene of Godzilla melting down, and so hot buildings were melting around him was extremely cool. - Looking forward to seeing a Gidorah-based Biollante in the future. - Betting Godzilla and Kong have one fight, then team up to dumpster the above, or Mecha Gidorah, or whatever. - Are they going to bring in aliens? - RIP Serazawa. You were awesome, but someone rolled out the oxygen destroyer, so... - Too much Science Dad, but oh well. - That shot of Gidorah pulling itself off the skyscraper, then Godzilla's reflection appearing was well done. - That tail slap to the Gidorah's ribs - ouch! - Oh my god, there is so much Mothra/Godzilla shipping fanart out there now. Truly the internet is a dark place. - I really like how they took the mythological feel that Kong and Mothra have always had, and extended it to all the kaiju. It's a nice touch, and gives the movie a different feel.
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Stairmaster posted:The problem isn't the amount of screen time but that there's four monsters that the film has to develop and it ends up being a batman&robin/spiderman 3 situation. Not a problem for me I liked it! Just curious if it really had more monster stuff in it than 2014 or if it just feels that way - I also used to "feel" 1998 godzilla had much more than 2014 but seen someone time those and turns out they are comparable.
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Arkanomen posted:The reason for that is pretty clear. This a is a great take! It keeps very well with the more mythological spin this one had. Burkion posted:So, one thing a lot of people get confused about with this movie is why it has such a heavy environmentalism message to it
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Burkion posted:Tanaka, the main producer of the Godzilla films who had missed Hedorah entirely due to being busy, hated the movie. Hated that it was ever made. Hated Banno for making it. This part of the story was circulated as gospel for years but I've heard some questioning of it as of late. Banno always denied this happening in interviews though Teruyoshi Nakano (the SFX director) claims to have heard the "You ruined Godzilla!" bit. It makes sense given that the series went back to a more "traditional" approach right after but I'm not entirely sure it's the reality.
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Well Godzilla vs Hedorah isn't something you see every day
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