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If Baldur's Gate 3 contains these elements: Party of 5+ characters that can be built from interesting NPCs. Takes place in the Forgotten Realms setting. A relatively faithful adaptation of a D&D rule set. Strange mix of serious and wacky tones in the quest and story. Not linear in that it contains side quests and areas. That, to me, is a Baldur's Gate game.
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Zzulu posted:I never played Balldurs gate you could kiss an elf in the sequel actually you could kiss two and a HALF elves, and also an incel
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Jun 6, 2019 20:34
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AngryBooch posted:A relatively faithful adaptation of a D&D rule set. do we tell him....
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Jun 6, 2019 20:34
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En Garde Motherfuckers posted:The Lone Wolf talent/trait/whatever was in both Original Sins so chances are good that Larian will help us torture ourselves in similar fashion. It is but 5E is a lot less restrictive than 2E/3E that the infinity engine games were based on for character creation. You could play a fighter/mage/cleric (as any race!) but IMHO there’s no point in doing so. I think there’s a bard specialization that’s basically the same thing but better. Depends on how exactly they implement I guess.
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Jun 6, 2019 20:35
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Pattonesque posted:you could kiss an elf in the sequel You could make a baby with the elf and carry the baby around in you're bag of holding
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Jun 6, 2019 20:37
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Is that logo a Cthulu or a Mindflayer? Would be fun to try D&D 5th in video game form, I don't think that's happened yet? Also make Neverwinter Nights 3 guys, thanks a ton
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Jun 6, 2019 20:40
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Zzulu posted:I never played Balldurs gate The original Baldur's Gate was a little meandering and had somewhat dull writing but it was a great translation of a (quite flawed) game system into a video game. The second...was just better in every single way: the mechanics (since you started at level 7 when the fun poo poo begins) the world, the writing, the characters. Everything was loving awesome. And it had a billion things to do and amazing pacing. You seldom got stuck doing one thing for too long. None of the dungeons were obnoxiously long, none of the quests will overloaded with fluff and every one of them felt meaningful and interesting in some way. The three big downsides to BG II was A) Real time with Pause is kinda stupid. It worked but it was hard to feel like you were in control of what was happening B) The plot takes over and you get pretty railroaded after chapter 2 and C) The 2nd edition ruleset had a bunch of idiotic nonsense in it. Fighting wizards in 2 was a massive chore because of the stupid dance because the 27 layers of protection they'd put up and the 27 countermagics you had to cycle through to deal with it.
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Jun 6, 2019 20:41
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Why do people refer to a series with two games as a trilogy?
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Jun 6, 2019 20:41
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Zzulu posted:I never played Balldurs gate You know how people today watch "Psycho" for the first time and are like, "what's the big deal?" And then you have to remind them that it was a big deal because it got there first, and the reason you aren't affected by it now is that it was so influential that horror movies have copied it for decades? Same thing for Baldur's Gate and isometric western RPGs.
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Jun 6, 2019 20:43
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thumper57 posted:Why do people refer to a series with two games as a trilogy? Most people consider the Throne of Bhaal expansion for BG2 to be a full game in itself
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Jun 6, 2019 20:43
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Being real time with pause is basically the only thing that could kill my interest in this game
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Jun 6, 2019 20:43
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One thing I really liked about BG2 was that it was usually pretty obvious how weapons stacked up to one another in terms of power level like OK, this sword is +4 so it's better than this one that's +2, but the +2 one has bonuses vs. undead and can protect from evil, so it's obvious when to switch and when you're safe to sell one to Ribald meanwhile ones in dragon age have like ... +20.8 armor penetration and a bunch of other incremental numbers
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Jun 6, 2019 20:46
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Blockhouse posted:Being real time with pause is basically the only thing that could kill my interest in this game A glance at the GOG page for the game reveals some bad news for you: 
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Jun 6, 2019 20:47
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En Garde Motherfuckers posted:A glance at the GOG page for the game reveals some bad news for you: That's unfortunate, and seems like a big mistake after Obsidian went to the trouble of patching in a turn based mode for POE2.
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Jun 6, 2019 20:50
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Could mean it's an action game.
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Jun 6, 2019 20:50
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MMF Freeway posted:Most people consider the Throne of Bhaal expansion for BG2 to be a full game in itself Also TOB was originally intended to be a full game before it was mashed into an expansion. I think that was super early on, but yea it's definitely a "third chapter" to the two games. Edit: Also: I'm definitely pro RTwP. turn based is great too but I'll always prefer the BG/Pillars way of doing things.
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Jun 6, 2019 20:50
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Also it's one of those games where people have written absolute tomes on how to abuse it. As opposed to a lot of games that feel in control of how powerful you are at any given point in the game. Now of course some people call this 'good game balance' and they are totally correct. But good game balance is for competitive multiplayer games; single player? lemme take the chains off and wreck poo poo. high-fives Might and Magic VII for good measure
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Jun 6, 2019 20:51
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Avalerion posted:Could mean it's an action game. Yeah known action game developer Larian
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Jun 6, 2019 20:51
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ChrisBTY posted:Also it's one of those games where people have written absolute tomes on how to abuse it. BG2 (and I love it for this) let you pick up a shield that lets one (1) character run through an entire dungeon of beholders while reflecting all their spells back at them. this includes the insanely huge Unseeing Eye beholder that serves as the dungeon's boss
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Jun 6, 2019 20:52
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I played Baldur's Gate 2 and the PS2 BG games to death when I was kid. I haven't had much fun in modern crpgs but against my better judgement I am going to get excited about this.
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Jun 6, 2019 20:53
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It seems somewhat unlikely to me that the person who decided what tags to put on the gog page is someone who is actually working on the game and not just some guy who works at gog Also the only thing that gives me pause (as someone who really liked D:OS2) is it being based on a module that is going to be released. Admittedly Descent into Avernus looks cool but also I think I'd rather see something original; I'd almost rather just play the actual module at that point.
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En Garde Motherfuckers posted:A glance at the GOG page for the game reveals some bad news for you: Take this with a grain of salt. The devs were unwilling to clarify in interviews posted today.
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Jun 6, 2019 20:54
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I would put very little stock into what gog's description says. They're really in between a rock and a hard place though because people are gonna be mad either way. I like RTWP just fine but Larian are more experienced with TB and can already do it well so I'm torn.
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Jun 6, 2019 20:54
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Blockhouse posted:Yeah known action game developer Larian ...yes? They made games before DOS1/2 you know, they started off with diablo clones.
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DoubleDonut posted:It seems somewhat unlikely to me that the person who decided what tags to put on the gog page is someone who is actually working on the game and not just some guy who works at gog They way it was worded, I don't think it's "based" on the module as much as it is a sequel to it in some way. Is this not the case?
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Jun 6, 2019 20:55
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I can't exactly say that this trailer promises the power fantasy and sense of adventure I associate with the BG games. But they're trying to reboot the franchise while still keeping it a party-based game instead of going the Fallout route so that's nice. I'm happy that they think the climate is right to bring the series back but not really excited about the game specifically.
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Jun 6, 2019 20:56
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I don't have strong opinions on real time with pause but honestly I just end up pausing so much that it may as well be turn-based, but I can hit spacebar to just make everyone auto-attack quicklychaosapiant posted:They way it was worded, I don't think it's "based" on the module as much as it is a sequel to it in some way. Is this not the case? I assumed "directly follows" means that it is using the module, not that it takes place after the module
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DoubleDonut posted:It seems somewhat unlikely to me that the person who decided what tags to put on the gog page is someone who is actually working on the game and not just some guy who works at gog It's not based on the module. It says it takes place after the Module. Mind Flayers after all have nothing to do with Descent. Interview posted:This game directly follows a new campaign called Baldur’s Gate: Descent Into Avernus, we worked very closely with them on that, and so our story continues right after that. MonsterEnvy fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Jun 6, 2019 |
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This is going to suck rear end. The fact that they won't even say what the game will play like says a lot. Divinity Original Sin 2 felt like a cheap cRPG knock off and I think this will too.Marzipan Pig posted:I played Baldur's Gate 2 and the PS2 BG games to death when I was kid. I haven't had much fun in modern crpgs but against my better judgement I am going to get excited about this. Now THIS would be awesome. The snowblind PS2 games were so drat good  
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Ok if there's one thing that raises the tiniest flag it's the idea that I can just pick up a module and read through the plot of BG III before the game even comes out. But then again it isn't like Larian has the best writers in the world so it might be a blessing in disguise.
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Jun 6, 2019 20:59
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DoubleDonut posted:I don't have strong opinions on real time with pause but honestly I just end up pausing so much that it may as well be turn-based, but I can hit spacebar to just make everyone auto-attack quickly Descent is about demons while this appears to be about mind flayers so I've been assuming "directly follows" means it happens right after
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Blockhouse posted:Yeah known action game developer Larian You know like most of their games outside of Original Sin 1 and 2 are wildly different genres right? Dragon Commander was an RTS, Divinity 2 was a Skyrim style 3rd person RPG, Divinity the original was a Diablo knock off etc.
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MonsterEnvy posted:It's not based on the module. It says it takes place after the Module. Mind Flayers after all have nothing to do with Descent. Oh, looking at the actual articles, you're right. My bad.
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Zore posted:You know like most of their games outside of Original Sin 1 and 2 are wildly different genres right? Dragon Commander was an RTS, Divinity 2 was a Skyrim style 3rd person RPG, Divinity the original was a Diablo knock off etc. I actually didn't and now I feel like a huge idiot
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Jun 6, 2019 21:00
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The interviews literally say that the descent module takes place before BG3. It is NOT an adaptation of the module.
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Jun 6, 2019 21:01
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The Ol Spicy Keychain posted:This is going to suck rear end. The fact that they won't even say what the game will play like says a lot. I think it says that the game was announced like two hours ago
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Palmer_eldritch7 posted:The interviews literally say that the descent module takes place before BG3. It is NOT an adaptation of the module. Edited the op for clarity on this point
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Jun 6, 2019 21:02
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Blockhouse posted:I actually didn't and now I feel like a huge idiot
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Jun 6, 2019 21:03
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The Ol Spicy Keychain posted:This is going to suck rear end. The fact that they won't even say what the game will play like says a lot. More news tomorrow. It's too early to say poo poo like this.
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Wizard Styles posted:To be fair the pre-D:OS games are not really worth knowing about. Take that back Styles. Take it back.
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