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Steen71
Apr 10, 2017

Fun Shoe

BeanpolePeckerwood posted:

I'm even really fond of Blackhat, and I hope the director's cut gets a physical release someday because the scene order int he theatrical cut is obviously compromised.

:cheers: I assume it was some kind of "The movie needs to start with an explosion" idea, but once you've seen the proper sequence in the DC, it's really hard to watch the theatrical cut.

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Coheed and Camembert
Feb 11, 2012

BeanpolePeckerwood posted:

I've seen it referred to online as 'one of the most expensive art films of all time' Here is a cool essay http://sensesofcinema.com/2007/feature-articles/miami-vice/

Miami Vice has this truly insane moment in the final shootout where one of the handheld camera operators stands up from one shooter and calmly walks over to another standing a couple feet away. There's no cut, so the audience truly feels the guy behind the camera standing up and walking around. It's so bizarre, and I can't believe it was ever left in anything. Cinematography Oscar for that moment alone.


I'm a fiend for mojitos.

Coheed and Camembert fucked around with this message at 13:50 on May 30, 2019

VoodooXT
Feb 24, 2006
I want Tong Po! Give me Tong Po!
Huh, looks like we're getting Prince of Tides.

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



Coheed and Camembert posted:

Miami Vice has this truly insane moment in the final shootout where one of the handheld camera operators stands up from one shooter and calmly walks over to another standing a couple feet away. There's no cut, so the audience truly feels the guy behind the camera standing up and walking around. It's so bizarre, and I can't believe it was ever left in anything. Cinematography Oscar for that moment alone.


Due to the Iraq War unfolding concurrently I'm pretty sure the intention was to make the shootout look like embedded journalism.

Chuka Umana
Apr 30, 2019

by sebmojo
I think I might order Swing Time, I've seen the famous scenes with Fred Astaire and Ginger Rodgers of course, but I'm wondering whether or not the rest of the movie holds up?

Chuka Umana fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Jun 1, 2019

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

Chuka Umana posted:

I think I might order Swing Time, I've scene the famous scenes with Fred Astaire and Ginger Rodgers of course, but I'm wondering whether or not the rest of the movie holds up?

It's a lot of fun and considered the best of the Astaire/Rogers films. Only caveat would be the Bojangles of Hollywood number because Astaire is in blackface, but that's all. And despite that, it's one of the best dance sequences of the 30s.

Rollersnake
May 9, 2005

Please, please don't let me end up in a threesome with the lunch lady and a gay pirate. That would hit a little too close to home.
Unlockable Ben
On the subject of musicals, I hope King of Jazz shows up on Criterion Channel. It's a movie I'm reasonably sure I'm not going to want to watch more than once, but I really want to watch it once. Early Technicolor films are fascinating to me, particularly since so many of the surviving ones are incomplete, or only in black & white.

Rollersnake fucked around with this message at 14:05 on Jun 2, 2019

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

Rollersnake posted:

On the subject of musicals, I hope King of Jazz shows up on Criterion Channel. It's a movie I'm reasonably sure I'm not going to want to watch more than once, but I really want to watch it once. Early Technicolor films are fascinating to me, particularly since so many of the surviving ones are incomplete, or only in black & white.

They do seem to be able to get Universal properties, but absolutely pick it up in the July B&N sale.

King of Jazz is fortunate because there was a lot of camera negative still extant, the parts taken from prints still look nice, and the optical soundtrack negative had survived. There's not a lot of surviving negative for 2-color Technicolor because it was largely junked when none of the studios wanted the reels returned after Technicolor switched to 3-strip.

Origami Dali
Jan 7, 2005

Get ready to fuck!
You fucker's fucker!
You fucker!
Boy I sure would like to be able to watch a movie on Criterion Channel without it freezing and resetting my Roku. Just once would be nice.

hope and vaseline
Feb 13, 2001

Origami Dali posted:

Boy I sure would like to be able to watch a movie on Criterion Channel without it freezing and resetting my Roku. Just once would be nice.

No problems with their Android TV app. Actually seems a lot more stable than the old Filmstruck one. Now if only there was a way to remove movies from the continue watching list...

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

me @ ur posts


Fun Shoe

hope and vaseline posted:

Now if only there was a way to remove movies from the continue watching list...

Or marking the ones you've already seen.

Criminal Minded
Jan 4, 2005

Spring break forever
Enjoy the Barnes & Noble sales while you can. They’re definitely about to be strip-mined.

https://twitter.com/ap/status/1137064471015383040?s=21

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

me @ ur posts


Fun Shoe
Maybe not:

quote:

Silver lining: Elliott owns British bookseller Waterstones, and will put Waterstones CEO James Daunt in charge of both companies (while keeping operations separate). Daunt has successfully grown Waterstones in the digital age, even since Elliott's takeover.
https://www.axios.com/newsletters/axios-pro-rata-f01afe71-8b7d-4996-a655-c7081e390f48.html

Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say UK has better laws to prevent hedge-fund strip mining.

smallmouth
Oct 1, 2009

I watched Yeelen on the channel this past week. It’s amazing and worth seeing.

checkplease
Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose
Finally watched my copy of Chimes at midnight. Had to turn on subtitles because I haven't read/watched any shakespere in years, but was visually beautiful, and Orson was a really funny hobo santa claus. Also another great commentary track to help add context to everything.

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

me @ ur posts


Fun Shoe
This Alec Guinness collection looks ace.

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

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I thought Modern Times was supposed to be a comedy, not a goddamn documentary.

It was good, although it was the first full length silent movie I've ever seen, and man it's a lot harder for me to focus on a silent picture than a talkie. I kept feeling like I should put a podcast on while I watched or something

Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006

Watch City Lights next.

Kart Barfunkel
Nov 10, 2009


Detective No. 27 posted:

Watch City Lights next.

DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005

ˇHola SEA!


Nic Roeg collection this month isn't exactly a series of deep cuts by CC standards, but if you haven't seen of them...you ought

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

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Detective No. 27 posted:

Watch City Lights next.

If I watch another Charlie Chaplin movie soon it's gonna be the other one with the babe who played the Gamin. She was really good

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

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I wasn't expecting a Charlie Chaplin movie to have a segment where he just does a ton of coke and gets in a fight.

Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this
The Man Who Fell To Earth is an absolutely incredible film. Its use of aging is so surreal and beautiful and strange - much like your own life, you don't expect the film to go as far as it does, but it does and it's bracing and agitating and upsetting. The only other film I can think of that makes a similar impact is Synecdoche New York, where it just keeps going and going and it makes you feel kind of queasy. The bit with the gun set to Hello Mary-Lou is one of my favorite scenes in any movie.

Magic Hate Ball fucked around with this message at 23:59 on Jun 8, 2019

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

Gripweed posted:

I thought Modern Times was supposed to be a comedy, not a goddamn documentary.

It was good, although it was the first full length silent movie I've ever seen, and man it's a lot harder for me to focus on a silent picture than a talkie. I kept feeling like I should put a podcast on while I watched or something

Fun story: When I was in college, one of my roommates was going for his PhD and was a socialist. He had never seen a silent film before, so I showed him Modern Times. He pointed out all sorts of stuff like little details being out of left-wing movements of the time. For example, the bit with the company CEO taking his vitamins or Chaplin being literally consumed by the machine.

While I don't really consider Modern Times to be a silent, as it has plenty of sync sound (more of a "mute talkie"), you can't go wrong with anything by Chaplin from The Kid through The Great Dictator, plus all 12 of his Mutual comedy two-reelers from 1916-1917 are masterpieces. I keep hoping Criterion will finally release The Circus since it's great, too.

City Lights, I think, is his greatest film, but Modern Times is his funniest. Though, definitely check out the '25 cut of The Gold Rush and The Kid, since they're brilliant too.

And if you want more silents, Safety Last! is probably my favorite silent comedy feature since it's just about as perfect as a comedy gets. Dreyer's The Passion of Joan of Arc is one of the finest silents ever made (if not the greatest) and I liked his comedy Master of the House. Sjostrom's The Phantom Carriage is great, too, plus it has a scene that Kubrick imitated for The Shining.

DeimosRising posted:

Nic Roeg collection this month isn't exactly a series of deep cuts by CC standards, but if you haven't seen of them...you ought

Everyone needs to see Performance - it's incredible.

Egbert Souse fucked around with this message at 00:09 on Jun 9, 2019

Samuel Clemens
Oct 4, 2013

I think we should call the Avengers.

In my experience, Buster Keaton is the easiest introduction to silent cinema because everyone sees the humour in a stoic man doing ridiculous stunts.

That or Metropolis, since there you get to marvel at the bombastic sets and learn where 90% of all science-fiction tropes originated.

Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this
Buster Keaton is definitely the best of the silent comedy crew but Joan of Arc is the one that turned me over like a spade.

Raxivace
Sep 9, 2014

First silent I ever saw was Man With a Movie Camera and I was not ready for it.

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

Raxivace posted:

First silent I ever saw was Man With a Movie Camera and I was not ready for it.

First silent I ever watched was Napoleon, the 4-hour cut on tape. Man with a Movie Camera was probably my second, plus The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari, Intolerance, and some of Keaton's short films.

The key to enjoying silent films is really in the presentation. Quality restoration, a great score, and even a mediocre film becomes a magnificent one. It's sort of like how I just sort of liked Metropolis when I first saw it via the DVD of the early 2000s restoration. Then I saw the "complete" version theatrically and it's one of my favorite silents. Just the combination of the excellent image quality, the complete narrative, and outstanding score make you forget how silly it really is.

Here's all the silents Criterion has released on Blu-ray so far...

The Phantom Carriage (1920, Victor Sjostrom) - was Bergman's favorite film and the one that got him interested in film
The Kid (1921, Charles Chaplin) - might be the most pristine silent I've seen on Blu-ray and would be the one most likely to deserve a UHD
Safety Last (1923, starring Harold Lloyd) - also has a superb feature-length doc on Lloyd by Kevin Brownlow
The Gold Rush (1925, Charles Chaplin) - The original silent version is a masterpiece, worth seeing if you've only seen the 40s recut.
The Freshman (1925, starring Harold Lloyd) - Almost as funny and brilliant as Safety Last!, with plenty of great setpieces.
Master of the House (1925, Carl Th. Dreyer) - Droll, feminist comedy. Funnier than I expected, and quite touching.
The Kid Brother (1926, starring Harold Lloyd) - Considered Lloyd's best comedy, sort of his "The General" in terms of blending drama with comedy.
The Lodger (1926, Alfred Hitchcock) - Hitch's third feature, his first masterpiece. Also has his next film Downhill as a bonus.
Speedy (1928, starring Harold Lloyd) - Fun NYC-based comedy, notable for a great bit part with Babe Ruth as himself
Lonesome (1928, Paul Fejos) - NYC-based "companion" to Sunrise, except endlessly sweet with non-stop dazzling visuals
The Passion of Joan of Arc (1928, Carl Th. Dreyer) - Possibly the greatest silent film ever made and in my top ten ever.
People on Sunday (1930, Robert Siodmak/Edgar J. Ulmer/Fred Zinneman) - Sort of a German Man with a Movie Camera, but more laid back.
City Lights (1931, Charles Chaplin) - Chaplin's finest film and probably the greatest ending scene put on film.

And while it's OOP, the Von Sternberg set is great if just for The Last Command, which has an otherworldly performance by Emil Jannings. They also have Haxan, which is a batshit insane semi-documentary look at witchcraft, but it's still DVD-only.

long-ass nips Diane
Dec 13, 2010

Breathe.

I'm only up to 1922 on my Criterion Channel watches, but the one silent from earlier than that I can wholeheartedly recommend is The Kid.

Shoulder Arms is interesting as a relatively contemporary satire of World War 1, but I didn't love it.

Blast Fantasto
Sep 18, 2007

USAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
It's weird but one of my deepest memories of Modern Times is them making sandwiches with huge loving pieces of bread.

Cloks
Feb 1, 2013

by Azathoth

long-rear end nips Diane posted:

I'm only up to 1922 on my Criterion Channel watches, but the one silent from earlier than that I can wholeheartedly recommend is The Kid.

Shoulder Arms is interesting as a relatively contemporary satire of World War 1, but I didn't love it.

Are you watching the Criterion Channel chronologically? I respect this insane approach.

long-ass nips Diane
Dec 13, 2010

Breathe.

Cloks posted:

Are you watching the Criterion Channel chronologically? I respect this insane approach.

I am! It's really hard as a person who doesn't particularly like silent film that much. I know Haxan is good but it's been a roadblock.

long-ass nips Diane fucked around with this message at 05:34 on Jun 9, 2019

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



DeimosRising posted:

Nic Roeg collection this month isn't exactly a series of deep cuts by CC standards, but if you haven't seen of them...you ought

Bad Timing owns. There's nothing else like it.

Samuel Clemens
Oct 4, 2013

I think we should call the Avengers.

Raxivace posted:

First silent I ever saw was Man With a Movie Camera and I was not ready for it.

I don't know, I imagine Man With a Movie Camera wouldn't be the worst introduction. It's short, there are no intertitles, and since it doesn't have any actors, you don't get the melodramatic acting that turns a lot of people off silent films.

Raxivace
Sep 9, 2014

I think you're underselling a bit how hard non-narrative films can seem at first, especially since I was a complete idiot at the time. Man With a Movie Camera is only like 70 minutes long but at the time it seemed like 70 minutes of non-sequiturs since I didn't get the concept of the "city film" and such. I did come to appreciate what Vertvov was doing eventually but it took time.

The intertitles and acting style of other silent films afterwards honestly weren't a huge roadblock for me- I think those have their own charm anyways.

SgtSanity
Apr 25, 2005
Excuse me
It’s more modern, but I feel like Koyaanisqatsi was my window into silent films. Dawson City: Frozen Time is another great intro composed of actual silent footage but edited into a modern doc.

Mahasamatman
Nov 8, 2006

Flame on the trail headed for the powder keg
Dziga is such a cool name.

Anyone else pumped for War and Peace? Might be the first criterion I pick up at full price, even though the sale won't be too far off once it's out.

Kart Barfunkel
Nov 10, 2009


Any real bangers in the Alec Guinness collection?

E: The Horse’s Mouth looks interesting. I never knew Guinness wrote.

Kart Barfunkel fucked around with this message at 08:25 on Jun 10, 2019

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gey muckle mowser
Aug 5, 2003

Do you know anything about...
witches?



Buglord

Mahasamatman posted:

Dziga is such a cool name.

Anyone else pumped for War and Peace? Might be the first criterion I pick up at full price, even though the sale won't be too far off once it's out.

the sale usually starts the first week of July, you'd only need to wait a week

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