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Boxing news roundup for today -Anthony Joshua reflects on his loss in a video on his youtube channel. He basically reiterated the same points as he did in the immediate post fight -the loss doesn't change him, he had a good camp and will exercise the rematch clause- but it was nice to hear him do so without just having sufferd a traumatic brain injury https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ohuf1yRror0 -Maurice Hooker vs Jose Ramirez in a WBO/WBC 140 lb. eliminator is set for July 27th taking place in Arlington, Texas (not AT&T Stadium of course) on DAZN. It's effectively the other half of the Matchroom/Top Rank swap with Luke Campbell fighting Lomachenko on ESPN likely on August 31st. If Hooker wins the chances are higher he fights the WBSS champion, either Josh Taylor or Regis Prograis, and the division is fully unified for the second time in three year. https://twitter.com/DAZN_USA/status/1136416707046719488 -Sergey Kovalev claims Anthony Yarde has pulled out of their fight and he in negotiations to take place in a tournament which is widely believed to be the 3rd season of the WBSS. I think the division is ripe for a tournament as there are a lot of names but not a lot of stars. https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1136306475800977409
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Can they just make the tournament with those 4 fighters rather than adding 4 others?
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Jun 6, 2019 06:43
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Cigar Aficionado posted:Honesty all of the big 3 heavyweights are extremely vulnerable, which is a big part of what makes the division so exciting right now. What's fury's vulnerability? Earnest question I don't think he's TBE or anything, but he seems pretty solid
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Jun 6, 2019 06:52
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the WBSS light heavy tournament seems too good to be true. Has Top Rank ever allowed one of their fighters to take part in one?
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Jun 6, 2019 13:32
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Monday Bandele posted:the WBSS light heavy tournament seems too good to be true. Has Top Rank ever allowed one of their fighters to take part in one? They gave not and if it really happens I suspect they would not let Gvozdyk and Zurdo in. If that happens and the tournament does happen I think it would be something like this (in seeding order): Bivol, Kovalev, Beterbiev, Browne. Unseeded would be Smith Jr, Jack, Buatsi, Pascal
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Jun 6, 2019 14:07
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Mao Zedong Thot posted:What's fury's vulnerability? Earnest question
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Yeah, Fury's mental state is his vulnerability. He's very open about how he struggles with depression and mania, and there's always the risk that he relapses into drug use. Makes it hard to predict where his head is at going into any given fight, or how well he prepared ahead of time. I think he's the best of the big three (or four) right now and believe he will win the Wilder rematch by a wider margin than he should have won last time, but I still wouldn't be too eager to lay money on him without some really compelling odds. MMM Whatchya Say posted:Can they just make the tournament with those 4 fighters rather than adding 4 others? Having eight fighters means they can promote the championship matches in the first round to get people hyped for the semifinals and beyond. It's a way to build up the tournament, which itself is a way to build up these title fights. An eight-man tournament also gets around criticisms that some good contender was frozen out of the tournament or avoided.
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Jun 6, 2019 17:32
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This is by far the most active I can remember a boxing thread being which has to be a good sign for boxing generally
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Mao Zedong Thot posted:What's fury's vulnerability? Earnest question In addition to the mental thing, he's pretty low activity. He's also got a weakness to body shots that nobody has really seemed to be able to capitalize on yet, but its there. His chin isn't exactly granite either, but I can't argue with his defense and recovery.
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According to badlefthook, Gennadiy Golovkin (gonna take me some time to get used to that spelling) is anywhere from a 40-1 favorite all the way to a 100-1 favorite against Rolls. Meaning if you wanted to win $100 betting on him to win, you would have to bet a whopping $10,000. Rolls is something like a 15-1 underdog. Good luck making money on this fight.
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The Ninth Layer posted:According to badlefthook, Gennadiy Golovkin (gonna take me some time to get used to that spelling) is anywhere from a 40-1 favorite all the way to a 100-1 favorite against Rolls. Meaning if you wanted to win $100 betting on him to win, you would have to bet a whopping $10,000. Rolls is something like a 15-1 underdog. Good luck making money on this fight. Even after.last week I just cannot believe that Rolls will win. Hell, I will  that if Steve Rolls beat Gennadiy Golovkin on Saturday I will donate $250 to a charity of your (ninth layer)'s choosing
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The SituAsian posted:Even after.last week I just cannot believe that Rolls will win. Hell, I will Hell, if this happens I'll match you.
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Jun 6, 2019 21:44
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Make it something related to brain injuries if it happens
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This is fun; I'm thinking much smaller but I'll go the other way and donate $20 to same if GGG stops (doesn't go to a decision) him.
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Fury's weakness is the anti-doping agencies. If they'd done their job even half properly he'd not even been in the ring with wlad
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:Fury's weakness is the anti-doping agencies. If they'd done their job even half properly he'd not even been in the ring with wlad What was the real story with that? I've only heard Fury's side that he was innocent.
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willie_dee posted:What was the real story with that? I've only heard Fury's side that he was innocent. Tyson (and Hughie) Fury had a positive test for elevated levels of nandrolone in February 2015. For reasons never explained very well by UKAD, they had a whole lot of trouble moving forward with this and nothing was brought to general attention until the following year, when Tyson tested positive for cocaine. My understanding is that there was some mismanagement of test results that lead to this not being reported or something like that. Neither one tested positive for nandrolone in any following test, because of that and the financial/legal issues UKAD was having, they basically dropped any official proceedings against the fighters at the end of 2017. Fury took the classic contaminated meat defense, saying that eating uncastrated wild boar caused his elevated levels of nandrolone. I don't know if this is a scientifically valid excuse. (E: If I'm reading this excerpt right, the answer is maybe) I found this tidbit, which is a bit loaded, but you might find interesting: quote:Among its side effects are wild mood swings, baldness and kidney damage. Jump King fucked around with this message at 05:01 on Jun 7, 2019 |
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Jun 7, 2019 04:57
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Lol do they just search that site for any excuse that might be valid
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I'm sure the boxer who repeatedly said doping should be allowed and has dropped huge amounts of weight in incredibly short timeframes just ate some wild boar. He pissed hot in Feb 2015 so shouldn't have been in the ring in July.
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Nandrolone from wild boar is the dumbest loving excuse, managing to be even worse than Frank Mir's turinabol from wild kangaroo. At least turinabol is oral, so you could see it being an a wild animal somehow, through a ridiculously dumb series of events which would never happen. Nandrolone is injected, so good loving luck. Is someone running around giving injections of expensive steroids to random wild pigs? And even then, it's unlikely that it would survive his digestion etc etc. The only PED I've heard of getting into someone's system verifiably through meat is clenbuterol, which gets used in Chinese and Mexican agriculture.
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I personally think all (or at least most) top boxers are juicing, and only the dumber ones get caught. I'm of mixed minds about it. In a perfect world all athletes would be clean and boxers would compete man vs man. But even without PEDs boxers who are wealthier, more successful or better supported are going to have advantages, and PEDs exacerbate those advantages because those are the boxers with the means to juke testing protocols. We don't live in a perfect world and athletes are going to take risks to get a competitive edge, I'd almost rather they just did it in the open instead of all of us just pretending it's not happening. But I also think I'd rather live in a world where athletes make at least a token effort to appear clean, rather than one where pharmaceutical companies are openly sponsoring super soldier athletes.
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Andy Ruiz says that if AJ wants the rematch in the UK, he wants $50 million. https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2019/6/7/18656248/andy-ruiz-jr-they-have-to-give-me-50-million-to-rematch-anthony-joshua-in-uk-boxing Doubt he's getting that much but was interested to learn he made around $7 million for the first fight, which isn't bad at all, and that's before whatever endorsements and commerical deals it sounds like he's getting.
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Yeah guys, to be clear, I think the tainted meat excuse is bullshit. I was just saying I didn't even know if that was a possible way to test positive. Apparently it might be, but I do think it's self evidently unlikely that Fury just happened to eat a bunch of Boar testicles the day before his drug test.
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The SituAsian posted:Even after.last week I just cannot believe that Rolls will win. Hell, I will I'm feeling pretty spicy so I'll add on to this that if GGG does not stop Steve "Texas Roadhouse has the best dinner" Rolls I will donate $100 to a charity of Mr. ninth Layer's choosing
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The Ninth Layer posted:Andy Ruiz says that if AJ wants the rematch in the UK, he wants $50 million. good for him. he brutally knocked out the consensus best heavyweight on a month's notice while working as a part time security guard and looking like a full time security guard. get paid.
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Marching Powder posted:good for him. he brutally knocked out the consensus best heavyweight on a month's notice while working as a part time security guard and looking like a full time security guard. get paid. Yea and he’s intelligent enough to realize a) they need a rematch to beat him very badly and b) they’ll want it on their terms, so he can be a dick about it.
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Is there anything interesting on the undercard for Golovkin tomorrow Tix are pretty affordable so I’m thinking about going lol, what the hell
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GalacticAcid posted:Is there anything interesting on the undercard for Golovkin tomorrow The lead promoter of the event is actually GGG Promotions so basically it's prospects from the 'stans. I'll let Scott Christ from Bad Left Hook speak but I've literally never heard of any of these guys. But if you can get to the Garden without much cost in terms of time and money I would say why not. At the very least it should be a big drama show. And of course in light of last week-though I hope not for my wallet's sake-something totally bananas could always happen too https://www.badlefthook.com/2019/6/5/18652406/golovkin-vs-rolls-preview-analysis-breakdown-matchup-odds-who-will-win-dazn-boxing-undercard Scott Christ in Bad Left Hook posted:Super middleweight Ali Akhmedov (14-0, 10 KO) of Kazakhstan will face Marcus McDaniel (15-0, 2 KO) of New Orleans. McDaniel, like Rolls, is a 35-year-old unbeaten unknown, but he did pick up a win over rugged (and shot) veteran Bryan Vera on Feb. 9.
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Nice thanks a ton.
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Going with a couple friends. I live off the E line so getting to MSG is about as easy at it gets. Should be fun, I’ve never gone to a pro match before.
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Live fights are a ton of fun, I definitely recommend getting there early enough that you can see a bunch of undercard fights.
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Got cheap, lovely seats way up in the nose bleeds, was enjoying the first two undercard fights...then an usher hooked me and my two boys up with section 115 seats for free for some reason This is tight
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GalacticAcid posted:Got cheap, lovely seats way up in the nose bleeds, was enjoying the first two undercard fights...then an usher hooked me and my two boys up with section 115 seats for free for some reason That happens when the seats aren't full. They want the fans to be as close to the ring as possible for the cameras. Kind of telling though, I guess they had trouble selling this. Super cool for you though!
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Jun 9, 2019 02:09
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Pretty decent undercard fight going on, style wise.
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McDaniel got completely owned, jfc Ceballo’s fight was fantastic though. Had a good New York cheering section too.
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Golovkin is the favorite, listed between -1232 and -10000 on various books. Rolls, unbeaten and untested at this level, is between +670 and +2100. The -1232 and +670 odds are from the same book lol
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Yeah Ceballo's a guy to watch for sure. War GGG!! The Ninth Layer fucked around with this message at 04:05 on Jun 9, 2019 |
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Just getting into regular boxing viewing. Why does it look like Rolls has way bigger gloves than GGG? Am I crazy?
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