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Scott Baio Nudes posted:this is a pretty good own they succumbed to market desire for the absolute largest and cheapest TV possible they are horrible garbage just like all other modern tvs and dont differentiate themselves in any way
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Scott Baio Nudes posted:this is a pretty good own they made some non lcd flat panel bets that burned them
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Jun 12, 2019 01:53
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Scott Baio Nudes posted:this is a pretty good own it still exists and they make very good ones?
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got a 50 inch tcl shitbox for like $350 or some poo poo and it kicks rear end
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Jun 12, 2019 02:00
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Pulcinella posted:Microsoft has been trying to make the Xbox more than just game console since the original Xbox. The only reason they made the Xbox in the first place was because they were afraid Sony was going to take over the living room and from there the PC. Yep. Everyone was obsessed with taking over "the living room" in the early 00s, then it turns out the living room is kinda boring.
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Jun 12, 2019 02:02
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Endless Mike posted:it still exists and they make very good ones? ever since crts faded into obscurity they went from being the best to being another manufacturer slapping their logo on other companies' panels
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Jun 12, 2019 02:04
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LanceHunter posted:Yep. Everyone was obsessed with taking over "the living room" in the early 00s, then it turns out the living room is kinda boring. but it’s where I do my best masturbatin’
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LanceHunter posted:Yep. Everyone was obsessed with taking over "the living room" in the early 00s, then it turns out the living room is kinda boring. I think it's more that it became trivial to wedge connectivity into literally every device you already had in your living room so there was no reason to buy into microsofts ecosystem unless you wanted to play halo
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jit bull transpile posted:I think it's more that it became trivial to wedge connectivity into literally every device you already had in your living room so there was no reason to buy into microsofts ecosystem unless you wanted to play halo and thats how we got cortana on the desktop
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Jun 12, 2019 02:50
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PleasureKevin posted:does it really sound like they care about making a console or making some kind of cross-platform streaming service? both and more. they want you to give them money in as many ways as loving possible. pay them for a console pay them for console accessories pay them for xbox live pay them for third party games pay them for first party games pay them for game streaming pay them by watching ads on their platform pay them for microtransactions do as many of these things as frequently as humanly possible.
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Smythe posted:got a 50 inch tcl shitbox for like $350 or some poo poo and it kicks rear end
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Jun 12, 2019 03:29
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Granite Octopus posted:they succumbed to market desire for the absolute largest and cheapest TV possible sony still makes some of the best TVs on the market. they also make trash. perhaps unsurprisingly the good TVs cost ten times as much as the trash the middle section of the market is just gone you have tvs that cost $3,000 and tvs that cost $300 and not much in between
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Sony was really good at CRT. I think it was the Trinitron or whatever. once LCDs became a thing, they were at the same level as everyone else. CRT patents couldn't help them make better LCDs. I still think I want a Sony TV that supports Playstation Now. I mean, I prefer dumb TVs, but does Apple TV have Playstation Now yet? pretty sure no.
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Sony went all in on plasmas didn’t they?
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I have a Sony tv it takes it one minute after boot before I can change input the menu has so much eye candy it can't get a constant FPS let me tell you about my Sony tv it is a piece of poo poo
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you bought a bad one OP, next time buy a good one instead
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PleasureKevin posted:Sony was really good at CRT. I think it was the Trinitron or whatever. once LCDs became a thing, they were at the same level as everyone else. CRT patents couldn't help them make better LCDs. sony makes the best LCDs available, bar none, but they cost a fortune, and always have sony only uses the best technology in the most expensive panels, holding onto margins from the 1980s hobbesmaster posted:Sony went all in on plasmas didn’t they? sony dabbled in plasma panasonic went all-in, and it killed their tv business
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panasonic plasma was real good
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sony 900 series lcds have the second best picture quality after lg oleds [and sony oleds which are just oem lg panels] and I can go months without having to look at anroid tv but no poors I guess since one might cost a thousand whole dollars *gasp*
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qirex posted:sony 900 series lcds have the second best picture quality after lg oleds [and sony oleds which are just oem lg panels] and I can go months without having to look at anroid tv but no poors I guess since one might cost a thousand whole dollars *gasp* the "900 series" varies from the best picture quality available at any price, rivaling OLED for black level while delivering 10x the brightness, down to panels I wouldn't foist on a prison cell it's a weird and lovely world in television sets
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:sony makes the best LCDs available, bar none, but they cost a fortune, and always have maybe so, but was it always that way? I think I remember reading they held on to CRT land too long because they were the top dog there. in any case, whenever there's a big change in technology many companies lag behind, unless you're really forward thinking and leading that change. like say Apple, in many cases. but I think I read that was not the case with Sony during the CRT to Plasma/LCD transition, they lost the lead there iirc.
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PleasureKevin posted:whenever there's a big change in technology many companies lag behind, unless you're really forward thinking and leading that change. like say Apple, in many cases. lm-ao
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:the "900 series" varies from the best picture quality available at any price, rivaling OLED for black level while delivering 10x the brightness, down to panels I wouldn't foist on a prison cell
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PleasureKevin posted:maybe so, but was it always that way? I think I remember reading they held on to CRT land too long because they were the top dog there. in any case, whenever there's a big change in technology many companies lag behind, unless you're really forward thinking and leading that change. like say Apple, in many cases. but I think I read that was not the case with Sony during the CRT to Plasma/LCD transition, they lost the lead there iirc. sony was never a leader in plasma, but they were there they were always at the forefont of lcd stuff, because duh
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qirex posted:the 900f and 950g are both fald, are you talking about the 930/940? because those are like 3 years old now welp model lines change oops the 900f of course is already quite expensive
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PleasureKevin posted:Sony was really good at CRT that's because they bet the farm on it, and then lost it all to sarnsung
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sony put a lot of people out of work in an already depressed community too
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Jun 12, 2019 05:43
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$900 for a tv that's better than one that cost like 4 grand a few years ago doesn't strike me as exorbitant I mean it's less than a single monitor stand from other vendors
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PleasureKevin posted:maybe so, but was it always that way? I think I remember reading they held on to CRT land too long because they were the top dog there. in any case, whenever there's a big change in technology many companies lag behind, unless you're really forward thinking and leading that change. like say Apple, in many cases. but I think I read that was not the case with Sony during the CRT to Plasma/LCD transition, they lost the lead there iirc. Sony made their own CRTs, and they made them better than anyone else. the technology to make LCDs is very different and they were late to the game and never had a chance to catch up with the others, leaving them unable to make large format panels when the rest of the market was switching over. so they had to source panels from other makers and lost their ability to differentiate. they could also never catch up because the market was rapidly commoditizing and they just didn’t have the money to invest in growing their own technology.
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sony still had a few firsts in the post-crt world, albeit more as gimmicks than anything actually meant to sell. they had a display with an array of local dimming leds back in 2004 that cost $10k, they had the first edge lit lcd back in 2008, which was $3k when similarly sized displays were dropping below $1000, and they can brag about shipping the first commercial oled display, which was an 11" 960x540 display that cost $2500
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This poo poo makes me miss degaussing my lovely old packard bell monitor, such a satisfying bit of computer janitoring
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Smythe posted:got a 50 inch tcl shitbox for like $350 or some poo poo and it kicks rear end same op
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FMguru posted:sup, smythe? Greetings my friend
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i still think about your werthog 95 dunks sometimes and smile (i am smiling now)
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The Management posted:Sony made their own CRTs, and they made them better than anyone else. wasnt mitsu's diamondtron superior to trinitron in that it had no/reduced damper wire lines? iirc that's what apple used in the crt studio displays too
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I used trinitrons for years and the shadow mask line was like “huh it’s there” once a month or so when I was really squinting at something. I can see steve getting mad about it but everything else about sony monitors was the best available in the 90s
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qirex posted:I used trinitrons for years and the shadow mask line was like “huh it’s there” once a month or so when I was really squinting at something. I can see steve getting mad about it but everything else about sony monitors was the best available in the 90s yeah i had and loved my sony gpd400 19" trinitrons, but i remember being jealous of my friend's diamondtron. no wires and i seem to remember it had a slightly higher resolution or refresh rate, and of course was also a perfect flat geometry so whats not to like
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qirex posted:I used trinitrons for years and the shadow mask line was like “huh it’s there” once a month or so when I was really squinting at something. I can see steve getting mad about it but everything else about sony monitors was the best available in the 90s I had a 30" trinitron I fished out of a dumpster when I was a teen and it was so heavy it caused a several degree bow in my lovely particle board Walmart desk. I lived with so much jank to have my own computer since I could only afford to build poo poo out of parts I fished out of the garbage when businesses did their refreshes.
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:panasonic plasma was real good I you loved color dithering and burn-in, maybe.
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LanceHunter posted:Yep. Everyone was obsessed with taking over "the living room" in the early 00s, then it turns out the living room is kinda boring. the ps2 totally did take it over, so did the ps3 actually- we used ours for games and blu rays (dvds with ps2) microsoft seeing this as a space where a computer can work (lol media centre pcs*) or a space that would somehow subsume the desktop, is rather asinine *I realize this can be an actual use case but it will always be niche
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