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Yes I understand that the reason is that Lorne Michaels is a bigger more powerful name and gets the clicks, but in this particular situation he's the secondary aggressor and making him primary seems inappropriate. Someone explicitly enabling an abuser deserves to be called out, but so does the abuser. Also, from the avclub article: "Ultimately, Kattan reveals, the pair had a consensual intimate encounter. " I don't know if what is described in the passages can be described as consensual. I understand being gunshy and not wanting to explicitly call it non-consensual, but explicitly calling it consensual when it ends with "I was attracted to Amy but at the same time very afraid of the power she and Lorne wielded over my career," seems to downplay the complexity and power dynamics of the situation.
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Yeah, I guess I undermined my own point by focusing on Micheals instead of Heckerling. Speaking of which, FWIW here's her daughter weighing in: https://twitter.com/mollieschmollie/status/1133760050491723776 Interesting how both accounts state that Lorne Michaels is a loving creep but in different ways.
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AceOfFlames posted:Yeah, I guess I undermined my own point by focusing on Micheals instead of Heckerling. Speaking of which, FWIW here's her daughter weighing in: I mean, I understand wanting to defend your Mom but she would have been like 12 when this was happening and probably not at the best life stage to assess the dynamics of workplace sexual relationships.
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thrawn527 posted:Like, I get that a guy who would DO that would write about it and not see why it's super loving weird, but surely he showed this book to someone? Anyone? "I asked Squantz Keevler, my editor, if he'd looked over the manuscript for me. He distractedly replied "hm? Yeah." while avoiding eye contact and unpacking a kitkat. I chose to take this as confirmation." "At lunch my agent, Blargson Fetch, told me "pfft, great book, Moby." I assumed this was a heartfelt compliment."
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Peaceful Anarchy posted:It's interesting that the take is "Lorne Michaels tried to pimp out Chris Kattan" and not "Amy Heckerling sexually harassed Chris Kattan and Lorne Michaels helped" Because Queen Best life
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Tony Robbins Loses Role With $38B Planning Firm -- Barrons.com https://www.wsj.com/articles/tony-robbins-loses-role-with-38b-planning-firm-barrons-com-11559065722 French #MeToo founder sued for slander by man she accused https://www.france24.com/en/20190529-french-metoo-founder-sued-slander-man-she-accused Cannes: Roman Polanski Film Gets Secret Presentation for Buyers https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/cannes-roman-polanski-film-gets-secret-presentation-buyers-1212205 Heiress pleads guilty in NXIVM sex slave case https://www.yahoo.com/news/heiress-pleads-guilty-nxivm-sex-slave-case-211655715.html
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AceOfFlames posted:BTW, dunno if this is old news, but apparently Lorne Michaels at one point tried to pimp out Chris Kattan to get a female director for Night at the Roxbury: Yeah I think it has to be said that if the sexes were reversed here this would be seen as a lot different and a lot worse. Not sure why Lorne Michaels should get less blame either; he told an employee to gently caress a director to get her to agree to a film deal. That’s pretty drat bad.
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Mario Batali facing criminal charges in alleged Boston assault https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2019/05/22/mario-batali-facing-criminal-charges-alleged-boston-assault/Tj8WTpGwbivxpRYQEYJQyH/story.html Feds bring new charges against lawyer Michael Avenatti for misappropriating nearly $300,000 from former client Stormy Daniels https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/feds-expected-charge-avenatti-dealings-stormy-daniels-sources/story?id=63203832 ‘Crash’ director Paul Haggis’ rape accuser says he’s withholding info https://pagesix.com/2019/06/04/crash-director-paul-haggis-rape-accuser-says-hes-withholding-info/ Bill Cosby attacks his trial judge – again – in new effort to get out of jail on appeal https://news.yahoo.com/bill-cosby-attacks-trial-judge-183511710.html
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you'd think the scientologists would have brought down paul haggis ages ago hell paul haggis himself said so
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That news about Paul Haggis is extremely awkward to me because Going Clear is one of my favorite books and his account is pretty riveting (though it did somewhat lionize Crash, a movie Haggis himself admitted didn't deserve to win Best Picture)
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Paul Haggis created my favourite TV show, I really hope it's a Scientology smear job
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Alan_Shore posted:Paul Haggis created my favourite TV show, I really hope it's a Scientology smear job Due South was so loving lit
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Last year Pauley Perrette tweeted this after her character exited NCIS https://twitter.com/PauleyP/status/995658483889463297 Yesterday: https://twitter.com/PauleyP/status/1136912956606648320 Linking this one due to a facial injury NCIS star Mark Harmon gave another crew member
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Chris James 2 posted:Last year Pauley Perrette tweeted this after her character exited NCIS Apparently this person was bitten by a dog though?  Edit: It was apparently Mark Harmon’s dog. Mark Harmon himself did not tear up someone’s face. Sucrose fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Jun 8, 2019 |
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Blast Fantasto posted:Gary Busey is the one who got all hosed up in a motorcycle accident, but his career never really recovered. Which was fine as he'd already arranged to clone a less crazy version of himself.
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Sucrose posted:Apparently this person was bitten by a dog though? It's the perfect crime. Blame attacks on doggo, and general public will b'awww upon seeing doggo.
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Alan_Shore posted:It's so good to hear someone finally say it. Still owns, still best odd-couple/buddy cop media of all time Wait, it's the same Paul Haggis? He really is good. (Due South forever).
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Sucrose posted:Apparently this person was bitten by a dog though? What I've pieced together is Mark Harmon's dog attacked a member of Pauley's crew, said crew member told animal control, dog got put down/threatened with being put down Mark and other NCIS stars rounded on crew member, Pauley walked cause her employees were being intimidated/treated like poo poo. So hey good on her for solidarity. A Sometimes Food fucked around with this message at 07:16 on Jun 11, 2019 |
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A Sometimes Food posted:What I've pieced together is Mark Harmon's dog attacked a member of Pauley's crew, said crew member told animal control, dog got put down/threatened with being put down Mark and other NCIS stars rounded on crew member, Pauley walked cause her employees were being intimidated/treated like poo poo. NCIS seems to be on in syndication in perpetuity, so as long as Harmon doesn't fuckbwith her residuals, so she should be okay financially, at least. Hopefully she finds work, as well, I don't like the show but generally when I've seen bits of it she seemed charming.
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She's got a an new sitcom coming up, though I doubt it'll last.
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A Sometimes Food posted:What I've pieced together is Mark Harmon's dog attacked a member of Pauley's crew, said crew member told animal control, dog got put down/threatened with being put down Mark and other NCIS stars rounded on crew member, Pauley walked cause her employees were being intimidated/treated like poo poo. She also accused Harmon of physical assault against her and TMZ's sources say that he began taking the dog out whenever he had a scene with her to intimidate her, but his greater clout with CBS meant she couldn't do anything about him but leave.
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yeah saw that on fb. I have a bunch of people involved peripherally and it took ages before the primary sources would even come forward with hints about what happened and there's still a bunch who are afraid to. Dude has gently caress you money out the rear end, that's what drew people to him, that's what protected him.
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Origami Dali posted:uh what's the accusation? Max Landis is an emotionally and mentally manipulative human being, not just to signficant others but to everyone around him.
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https://twitter.com/Lee_Jameson/status/1138664582333968384?s=19 https://twitter.com/AllieGoertz/status/1138635783256936448?s=19 I feel like you could easily stumble across Landis stories on Twitter, and that's thoroughly depressing.
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Origami Dali posted:uh what's the accusation? They’re have been vagueposts about him being a rapist and just now people are coming forward
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This tweet just made me learn that Beetle House is a thing and it's thoroughly cringey. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZS9dfqaW32Y
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peer posted:also that he wrote Bright This. And it would be pretty hilarious of random Netflix subscribers started tweeting about it.
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More people posting their experiences with Max Landis [threads]: https://twitter.com/goddessmasha/status/1138706437452918784?s=21 https://twitter.com/remembrancermx/status/1138826210358620161?s=21
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