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RealFoxy posted:I downloaded and watched six matches at totally random last night and I'm hooked now. The first one I watched was Kawada vs Taue from Jan 1, 1991 and I was blown away. I guess I really havent watched much of that style or that era outside of a couple Kobashi matches
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# ? Jun 11, 2019 17:01 |
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Ditch posted:That Kawada/Taue match owns so much. Their match from Champions Carnival 1995 also owns, but due to the development of the style it's very different. All Japan from the mid '80s through the early '90s had lots of good, hate-fueled feuds. In the mid '90s that shifted to rivalries and a cleaner but still very violent style. Eh, I’d put this down more to a change in their personal dynamics rather than the company’s style changing as a whole. In 1991, Kawada was a mega babyface in the Super Generation Army alongside Misawa and Kobashi, whereas Taue was an opportunistic heel and betrayed the three of them to join Tsuruta-gun alongside Fuchi, Yatsu and Jumbo. It makes perfect sense that they wanted to kill each other in their 1991 CC match, because the Four Pillars were supposed to be standard-bearers of the new generation, but Taue had thrown his lot in with the old fuckers, and that really didn’t sit right with Kawada at the time. By 1995, Kawada had turned heel and formed the Holy Demon Army with Taue. He wasn’t about to kill his tag team partner for the sake of two points in the Champion Carnival, and vice versa. Of course, they weren’t going to pull their punches, but they weren’t going to break their trust in each other. That’s why the rematch isn’t quite as dirty. They were still as violent and dirty as ever with their opponents though. Take the Misawa/Kobashi vs. Kawada/Taue match on 6/9 (nice) that year. When Kobashi fucks up his knee on that dive, iirc Kawada immediately comes in and kicks the gently caress out of it. That eventually leads to Kawada and Taue kicking the poo poo out of Misawa on the floor, until Kobashi shields Misawa with his body and the Holy Demon Army keeps on kicking the poo poo out of them. That’s dirty as gently caress imo. There was still a lot of hate in AJ during the 90s from my perspective. e: vv Oh, totally agree with you on that! vv Venomous fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Jun 11, 2019 |
# ? Jun 11, 2019 18:21 |
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I guess I'm thinking in terms of going for blood, brawling, etc. Plenty of hate and cheap tactics in the middle of the decade but it was more technical in execution. Of course that depends on if one considers Taue pie-facing Misawa into Kobashi's leg "technical", which I would, in addition to being dirty AF.
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# ? Jun 11, 2019 20:26 |
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We did it https://twitter.com/DramaticDDT/status/1138858930799632384
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# ? Jun 12, 2019 22:37 |
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gently caress yeah
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# ? Jun 12, 2019 23:41 |
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CHAIR-SAN!
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# ? Jun 13, 2019 00:51 |
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https://twitter.com/isalrightnow/st...782145126764546
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# ? Jun 13, 2019 02:04 |
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It's both touching that there was plan for such a worse-case scenario and chilling that Misawa thought that dying in ring was more than a remote possibility at that point in his career
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# ? Jun 13, 2019 03:10 |
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Lie Bot, what is the saddest thing? Philippe, Philippe, Philippe. Nooo!
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# ? Jun 13, 2019 03:13 |
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I wonder if Ibushi carries a similar letter after his passing to be stuffed into Yoshihiko so he can continue to wrestle forever
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# ? Jun 13, 2019 03:14 |
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He probably knew it was likely to happen, it’s not like he didn’t go to doctor. He probably had severe spinal stenosis but just cleared himself to wrestle anyway.
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# ? Jun 13, 2019 03:17 |
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Coaaab posted:It's both touching that there was plan for such a worse-case scenario and chilling that Misawa thought that dying in ring was more than a remote possibility at that point in his career He worked in a dangerous business and I remember reading at one point that he knew he shouldn't still be wrestling, but when Kobashi had to retire they lacked draws after a few failed attempts at making stars, and Misawa was pretty beloved. The whole story of Baba Dies>AJPW falls apart>NOAH starts>NOAH falls apart after a prosperous start because of Kobashi's body breaking down and Misawa dying is pretty sad.
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# ? Jun 13, 2019 03:19 |
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El Gallinero Gros posted:NOAH falls apart after a prosperous start because of Kobashi's body breaking down and Misawa dying is pretty sad. Their TV deal w/NTV getting axed due to the economy cratering was also a crushing blow.
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# ? Jun 13, 2019 03:30 |
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El Gallinero Gros posted:He worked in a dangerous business and I remember reading at one point that he knew he shouldn't still be wrestling, but when Kobashi had to retire they lacked draws after a few failed attempts at making stars, and Misawa was pretty beloved. Specifically he was a big deal to the businessmen who paid for the spot shows in the countryside.
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# ? Jun 13, 2019 03:48 |
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Dammit I'm not supposed to cry at work you bastard.
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# ? Jun 13, 2019 13:59 |
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https://twitter.com/brothermort/status/1138389881250635777?s=21
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# ? Jun 13, 2019 17:16 |
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Does anyone have a good resource for recommended non-NJPW puro/joshi matches?
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# ? Jun 15, 2019 23:58 |
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dg: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PspN7dkYnAJzzepC7hjDrCKbjvnfBnLppLwS3IqqF0E/edit stardom: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dUIwqCb133wWWT0IJLnvST47h2yUFUQl10NLhqzvKlo/edit
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# ? Jun 16, 2019 00:19 |
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I like this guys spreadsheet of Joshi matches - it’s as comprehensive as you can get without including DVD matches that no one can see and for the top matches gives an explanation about why they’re on it. https://twitter.com/oystersearrings/status/1139878848353447936?s=21
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# ? Jun 17, 2019 17:57 |
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Fell down a wikihole on Muta and how have I never heard of Yinling the Erotic Terrorist before.Wikipedia posted:On June 17, 2007, after a match which saw Yinling and TAJIRI lose to Muta the Great and RG, Muta held Yinling down and spat his green mist into her vagina. The green mist apparently contained Muta's sperm and caused Yinling to become pregnant. Yinling would give birth to an egg in the middle of the ring and eventually the egg hatched into 514-pound wrestler Monster Bono. [...] due to her continuous abuse, Bono eventually turned on her, which led to challenging her in the ring. The match between mother and son took place on May 24, 2008, in which Yinling fought valiantly but Bono came out as the victor. Tragically, Bono's finishing big splash accidentally killed Yinling. As she died, he held her in his arms and the two were reconciled
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# ? Jun 17, 2019 18:18 |
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Baron La Croix posted:Fell down a wikihole on Muta and how have I never heard of Yinling the Erotic Terrorist before. HUSTLE was the weirdest poo poo and about 20 years ahead of its time.
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# ? Jun 17, 2019 18:31 |
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I remember HUSTLE came up on an episode of Pacific Rim earlier this year, and it was pretty funny to hear how pissed off Fumi was about the whole thing.
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# ? Jun 17, 2019 18:46 |
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Rodney the Piper posted:Does anyone have a good resource for recommended non-NJPW puro/joshi matches? Ditch's archive for older stuff. http://theditch.us/chron.html
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# ? Jun 17, 2019 19:34 |
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The best part about HUSTLE (Scott Norton backs me up on this having experienced it up-close) is how INSANELY entertaining Takada's heel promos were even if you don't know Japanese. Absolutely untouchable charisma.
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# ? Jun 18, 2019 06:00 |
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DDT have started a new wrestling brand for hobbyists who have had their dreams crushed more than once but not more than five times. Here are the wrestlers https://twitter.com/ddtpro_eng/status/1140924686315819008?s=19
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# ? Jun 18, 2019 11:53 |
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coconono posted:HUSTLE was the weirdest poo poo and about 20 years ahead of its time. Kawada/Taichi forever https://twitter.com/golazodan/status/864581776341180416?lang=en https://streamable.com/itob9
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# ? Jun 18, 2019 12:44 |
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https://twitter.com/whatever_spicy/status/1140960671275687936?s=19 I'm not sure I can watch this match
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# ? Jun 18, 2019 14:13 |
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MassRafTer posted:Ditch's archive for older stuff. http://theditch.us/chron.html Ditch‘s stuff is great. Does anyone have resources for ‘19 NOAH? Cagematch seems to follow Big Japan and All Japan (at least for Champions Carnival) pretty close. I think with the Dragon Gate and joshi resources above, that should cover most of it.
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# ? Jun 18, 2019 14:32 |
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Rodney the Piper posted:Ditch‘s stuff is great. Follow @Hi5ame on Twitter. She puts out a lot of stuff about modern NOAH in English.
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# ? Jun 18, 2019 14:43 |
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https://twitter.com/MrLARIATO/status/1141290837546078210
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# ? Jun 19, 2019 13:59 |
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I'm just glad that DDT gave us the match we wanted during every single one of those WCW Nitro Spring Break shows.
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# ? Jun 19, 2019 14:17 |
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DDT owns
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# ? Jun 19, 2019 17:10 |
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WatermelonGun posted:DDT owns
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# ? Jun 19, 2019 18:03 |
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Why the gently caress am I not subscribed DDT yet?
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# ? Jun 19, 2019 23:42 |
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If there's a bigger bang for your entertainment buck than a DDT Universe subscription I haven't found it
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# ? Jun 20, 2019 01:48 |
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DDT Universe rules. Everyone should give Takagi their money.
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# ? Jun 20, 2019 01:54 |
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Been rumoured for a while but BJW finally confirmed they're bringing in "Big" Michael Elgin.
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# ? Jun 23, 2019 08:00 |
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https://twitter.com/ORIENTALWRESTL1/status/1143785140327342081
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# ? Jun 26, 2019 14:13 |
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is this a late April Fool or is this CIMA trying to save the British indies from Vince
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# ? Jun 26, 2019 16:48 |
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That... doesn't seem smart.
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