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thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

https://twitter.com/TweetneyMoore/status/1138886062439223296

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DLC Inc
Jun 1, 2011

that tweet is not a good look in any way tbh

Pirate Jet
May 2, 2010
I thought Landis made it pretty clear he hated the DC films? Is he that much of a psychopath that he’d just start gossip like that to watch the drama?

Also what the gently caress Lexi.

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


quote:

I'm rewatching it now, you mean the one where as soon as the review starts they make fun of misogynist incel chuds making GBS threads on the movie before it was even out? What point were you making, exactly?

Was it that they said it was "bland"? Whatta scoop!

This is a willful misrepresentation of their take on Brie Larson having an opinion about diversity on movies and criticism (on which their take was literally "Brie, it doesn't matter who reviews your movie if the review is good!"), followed by bizarrely spending 20 minutes criticizing her for "virtue signaling" and being "down with feminism" in red carpet interviews that for some reason they suddenly care about. They've mostly avoided being explicitly political in favor of just celebrating the same stuff that every white male millennial film-goer likes, but the mask really slipped there. And the format of taking an hour each week to describe how bored you are by movies with budgets does wear thin. They clearly took the Larson comments as a direct attack on them, which says a lot more about them than it does Larson.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.

Sodomy Hussein posted:

This is a willful misrepresentation of their take on Brie Larson having an opinion about diversity on movies and criticism (on which their take was literally "Brie, it doesn't matter who reviews your movie if the review is good!"), followed by bizarrely spending 20 minutes criticizing her for "virtue signaling" and being "down with feminism" in red carpet interviews that for some reason they suddenly care about. They've mostly avoided being explicitly political in favor of just celebrating the same stuff that every white male millennial film-goer likes, but the mask really slipped there. And the format of taking an hour each week to describe how bored you are by movies with budgets does wear thin. They clearly took the Larson comments as a direct attack on them, which says a lot more about them than it does Larson.

That's pretty funny, because that's not what they said.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Sodomy Hussein posted:

This is a willful misrepresentation of their take on Brie Larson having an opinion about diversity on movies and criticism (on which their take was literally "Brie, it doesn't matter who reviews your movie if the review is good!"), followed by bizarrely spending 20 minutes criticizing her for "virtue signaling" and being "down with feminism" in red carpet interviews that for some reason they suddenly care about. They've mostly avoided being explicitly political in favor of just celebrating the same stuff that every white male millennial film-goer likes, but the mask really slipped there. And the format of taking an hour each week to describe how bored you are by movies with budgets does wear thin. They clearly took the Larson comments as a direct attack on them, which says a lot more about them than it does Larson.

I haven't rewatched the review since it dropped, but iirc the biggest pushback they had to Brie's comments were how ridiculous it was for her to say that a huge, blockbuster superhero movie 'wasn't for you' w/r/t male viewers and critics. Otherwise they were in agreement that more diverse voices in film criticism is, in fact, something that is good and we need.

They weren't against her saying that some movies aren't for men or w/e but how ridiculous it is to try and hang that on the back of a giant loving Marvel movie. It also tied into their opinions w/r/t it being ridiculous to turn something like a big blockbuster Wonder Woman movie (which they enjoyed for the most part iirc), or a big blockbuster female led Ghostbusters movie as some huge feminist statement, or as something 'not for' the male part of the audience. All of which I agree with, tbh. It's great to have big blockbuster action flicks starring women, or written by women, or directed by women, but let's not pretend they aren't focus tested and executive meddled to poo poo to try and hit as many demos as possible. Especially the superhero ones. We should champion these movies for sure, but let's be real about 'em. Movies like that, with that much money behind them, are kinda made for everybody. Therefore everybody's opinion should matter, so long as they aren't being bigots or sexist, in which case gently caress 'em.

Anyway this is not the RLM thread nor the right thread in general to really have this argument. If you think the RLM bois are chuds or whatever, cool. I personally don't think they are. They're definitely a little ignorant on some things, and still make some questionable bad taste jokes (Rich in particular), but in general I'd say they're pretty drat progressive and liberal for a bunch of middle aged white dudes from Milwaukee. It's cool not to like them, but to paint them as something they aren't is just silly-- though you do you.

esperterra fucked around with this message at 06:44 on Jun 14, 2019

DrVenkman
Dec 28, 2005

I think he can hear you, Ray.

Yeah to be honest despite her having good points from time to time I don't know why anyone listens to Lexi Alexander on anything.

Like her absolute insistence is that the only reason more people didn't speak out about Landis when she did is that they were all looking for jobs. Now her insistence is that these same people are trying to 'silence' her because white feminism is bad.

DrVenkman fucked around with this message at 06:57 on Jun 14, 2019

Babysitter Super Sleuth
Apr 26, 2012

my posts are as bad the Current Releases review of Gone Girl

DrVenkman posted:

Yeah to be honest despite her having good points from time to time I don't know why anyone listens to Lexi Alexander on anything.

A lot of the people giving her poo poo for this actively were harassing her two years ago when she called out Landis the last time he blew up for being a pest. Lexi has absolutely every right to be contemptuous of these people for thinking that the leopard wasn't going to eat their face too.

DrVenkman
Dec 28, 2005

I think he can hear you, Ray.

Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:

A lot of the people giving her poo poo for this actively were harassing her two years ago when she called out Landis the last time he blew up for being a pest. Lexi has absolutely every right to be contemptuous of these people for thinking that the leopard wasn't going to eat their face too.

I mean were they actively harassing her? I've seen a lot of the same people now as then call out Landis for what he had been doing (Mara Wilson, who easily exceeds Lexi in followers, often highlights lovely stories about Landis) and without trouble for doing it.

Contempt shouldn't really be the first emotion someone has when hearing a victims complicated past with an abuser. All she's concerned with is being right.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:

A lot of the people giving her poo poo for this actively were harassing her two years ago when she called out Landis the last time he blew up for being a pest. Lexi has absolutely every right to be contemptuous of these people for thinking that the leopard wasn't going to eat their face too.

Yeah, the people who were in the wrong here were those circling the wagons, knowing what they knew.

DLC Inc
Jun 1, 2011

DrVenkman posted:

Now her insistence is that these same people are trying to 'silence' her because white feminism is bad.

white feminism is bad actually, I see no problem here. more people got hurt because they did not listen to people like Lexi. It's lovely to kind of say "I told you so" I grant you that but let's not pretend people shouted others down for years while practically everyone ignored the open secret of Max Landis being a fucker.

for all the "believe women" statements espoused people sure did take their loving time to castigate Landis. I feel bad for Whitney but she's hardly the first person to come forward with this stuff so idk why she feels like she's the ringleader of the tormentors, she's woefully late to this.

DLC Inc fucked around with this message at 14:59 on Jun 14, 2019

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747
Yeah from anyone else that Lexi Alexander take would be very bad but uh

I think she gets an "I told you so" pass in this particular situation

Also the RLM video he did is legit hilarious because you can just feel how badly everyone else wants to chew their own leg off to get away from him. It's basically watching Landis go on and on about the dumbest poo poo while the RLM crew just look at him like :smithicide:

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

Yeah from anyone else that Lexi Alexander take would be very bad but uh

I think she gets an "I told you so" pass in this particular situation

Also the RLM video he did is legit hilarious because you can just feel how badly everyone else wants to chew their own leg off to get away from him. It's basically watching Landis go on and on about the dumbest poo poo while the RLM crew just look at him like :smithicide:

I've never actually watched the RLM video with Landis before.

*comes back after watching the first five minutes*

Holy poo poo, this is awkward as gently caress. The RLM guys have, like, instant looks of regret on their faces.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Without Max we wouldn’t have Mac on multiple episodes and be the best guest they’ve ever had. So

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



CelticPredator posted:

Without Max we wouldn’t have Mac on multiple episodes and be the best guest they’ve ever had. So

wtf does that even mean, who is mac

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours
Macaulay Culkin presumably.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

Macaulay Culkin presumably.

Si.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747
... huh? I was under the impression Macaulay Culkin got on board with them totally independently, just because he's a nerdo who likes their stuff and has shitloads of free time

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

Macaulay Culkin presumably.

episodes and guests tho? idgi

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Krankenstyle posted:

episodes and guests tho? idgi

Culkin's done a few guest spots on their videos, and it's funny as hell literally 100% of the time

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

... huh? I was under the impression Macaulay Culkin got on board with them totally independently, just because he's a nerdo who likes their stuff and has shitloads of free time

Yeah, he just likes to do random poo poo. He did an AVGN episode last Christmas, too.

Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006

Timby posted:

Yeah, he just likes to do random poo poo. He did an AVGN episode last Christmas, too.

He showed up in one of their rental reviews a couple weeks ago, but not even as one of the guests, just a bit part in whatever ad they played before. It was pretty hilarious.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:

... huh? I was under the impression Macaulay Culkin got on board with them totally independently, just because he's a nerdo who likes their stuff and has shitloads of free time

He showed up at the end of the Landis episode in a short film that Landis shot on his own time that had Mac at the end.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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At 59:22
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-3wkbqmgxs
The video would’ve been helpful...

CelticPredator fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Jun 14, 2019

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!
Just don't let that creepy, misogynist psycho ruin my ability to enjoy Neil Breen. At least leave me with that!

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
People knew max was an rear end in a top hat but yeah can we not victim blame :upsidedownsmileyface:

King Vidiot posted:

Just don't let that creepy, misogynist psycho ruin my ability to enjoy Neil Breen. At least leave me with that!

I hate to break it you but

have you seen a neil breen movie

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!
Yeah you're right, nothing can ruin my ability to enjoy Neil Breen :unsmith:

DrVenkman
Dec 28, 2005

I think he can hear you, Ray.

DLC Inc posted:

white feminism is bad actually, I see no problem here. more people got hurt because they did not listen to people like Lexi. It's lovely to kind of say "I told you so" I grant you that but let's not pretend people shouted others down for years while practically everyone ignored the open secret of Max Landis being a fucker.

for all the "believe women" statements espoused people sure did take their loving time to castigate Landis. I feel bad for Whitney but she's hardly the first person to come forward with this stuff so idk why she feels like she's the ringleader of the tormentors, she's woefully late to this.

I don't disagree on white feminism at all, but I don't think that a complicated situation for the people involved, including those who were actually abused by Landis can and should be boiled down to a dismissive "white feminism is bad and the only reason people didn't listen to me is because I'm not white and because they wanted to further their careers". Like, it's victim blaming clear and simple, with a dose of 'I told you so.'

If anyone in this thread said that poo poo they would rightly get dragged for it.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.
Ehh, Lexi Alexander has had to put up with enough poo poo I'm gonna give her a pass on this. She might be wrong about these women defending Landis for a job, but the larger point of Alexander calling Landis out for being an abusive prick and these women calling her a liar when they knew she was telling the truth is valid.

Air Skwirl fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Jun 15, 2019

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

Max showed up on the pointlesswasteoftime.com forums sometime around 2002, 2003 I guess, and had this bizarre whiny/persecuted/edgelord thing going on. We all thought it was teenage angst and he'd grow out of it but when I look at his interviews and read his tweets today, he's exactly the same person. Just with money and some kind of standing (?!) in the industry.

Wren610
Oct 25, 2010
Cuba Gooding JR got charged with forcible groping.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

MrMojok posted:

Max showed up on the pointlesswasteoftime.com forums sometime around 2002, 2003 I guess, and had this bizarre whiny/persecuted/edgelord thing going on. We all thought it was teenage angst and he'd grow out of it but when I look at his interviews and read his tweets today, he's exactly the same person. Just with money and some kind of standing (?!) in the industry.

Considering the kind of people who ran PWOT I'm not too surprised he'd think he'd be welcome there.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.
Oh, I found that creepy interview, it's not on the live site anymore, but the wayback machine never forgets.

https://web.archive.org/web/20140217175044/http://shelbysells.com/2013/09/30/interview-series-max-landis/

quote:

i’ve been in some super hosed up things. the most hosed up thing was that i cheated on a girl who i also gave a crippling social anxiety, self-loathing, body dismorphia, eating disorder to. i mean you can’t really give someone any of these things, but the seeds of these things were there inside of her. we were in such a sort of unfair, hosed up relationship – not the kind where there’s a lot of yelling and screaming – the actual relationship was very nice and loving, but i was so fickle about her body. i’m not shy, i would just blurt out poo poo all the time. she ended up completely changing how she dressed and how she looked for me. that chick will never talk to me again.

sponges
Sep 15, 2011

It’s unfortunate that Landis won’t face any professional repercussions but at least he’s been outed and everyone hates him.

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

ImpAtom posted:

Considering the kind of people who ran PWOT I'm not too surprised he'd think he'd be welcome there.

I guess there are a lot of things you could say about those forums as they were then, and the guy who ran them, but people like Max were most definitely never welcome there. It was drat near a defining characteristic of the place!

Blast Fantasto
Sep 18, 2007

USAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Max Landis is one of those people who will just continue to fail upward. Nearly everything he’s written (other than Chronicle) has been a massive flop. But he still keeps getting chances.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

MrMojok posted:

I guess there are a lot of things you could say about those forums as they were then, and the guy who ran them, but people like Max were most definitely never welcome there. It was drat near a defining characteristic of the place!

I mean John Cheese was a sex pest and David Wong apparently covered for him.

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003

Alex Jones offers $1M reward as FBI investigates child pornography planted on his Infowars server
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Alyssa Milano defends controversial sex strike in new op-ed: 'Sometimes we need an extreme response'
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Disney World employee charged with trying to lure child for sex
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K-pop 'Gangnam' mogul resigns as drug, sex scandals rock agency
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Kaiju Cage Match
Nov 5, 2012




Wren610 posted:

Cuba Gooding JR got charged with forcible groping.

So he's now obligated to change his name to Badding then?

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MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

ImpAtom posted:

I mean John Cheese was a sex pest and David Wong apparently covered for him.

:stonk:

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