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What are some of the biggest events that have "exposed" the business? Things like Austin giving the worst Schoolboy to Owen after his neck broke, or anything involving David Flair.
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Jun 14, 2019 17:22
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Admiral Joeslop posted:What are some of the biggest events that have "exposed" the business? Things like Austin giving the worst Schoolboy to Owen after his neck broke, or anything involving David Flair. https://www.apnews.com/eca94e958509fcd2842cc0a384056ae3
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Jun 14, 2019 17:24
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Admiral Joeslop posted:What are some of the biggest events that have "exposed" the business? Things like Austin giving the worst Schoolboy to Owen after his neck broke, or anything involving David Flair. I forget the website but it had a bunch of news articles of back in the day of "is wrestling fake?". My favorite took place around the early 1900's there were 2 guys throwing punches at each other for 2 hours in some wild brawl before they escaped into some caravan for a half hour, came out visibly drunk and continued brawling for another hour.
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Jun 14, 2019 17:57
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The business was already hell of exposed but Vince did a cold open on RAW one night and basically said "hey, we all know this is stupid and fake so now that we have that out of the way let's get down to what you're really here for" and it ruled
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Jun 14, 2019 18:40
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What is considered to be the best Goldberg match? The DDP Halloween Havoc match seems pretty good. It feels like it's all DDP but still.
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Jun 15, 2019 04:52
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Goldberg vs Scott Steiner at Fall Brawl 2000
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Jun 15, 2019 04:55
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I liked his AJPW stuff, short and sweet matches.
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Jun 15, 2019 04:56
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Hedgehog Pie posted:What is considered to be the best Goldberg match? The DDP Halloween Havoc match seems pretty good. It feels like it's all DDP but still. I'm still a fan of the WM33 match against Lesner because it was just a quick five minute match and nobody expected it at the time. Bias, but he had a good Ladder Match against Scott Hall at Souled Out 1999 in which they never showed the backstage stuff to us in the live crowd so Goldberg was just walking with a limp and all we had to go on was "Goldberg slipped on his piss" from Scott Hall's promo before the match RealFoxy fucked around with this message at 05:00 on Jun 15, 2019 |
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Jun 15, 2019 04:58
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TTBF posted:Goldberg vs Scott Steiner at Fall Brawl 2000 I'll have to watch it again but I also can't look past BUT GOLDBERG REFUSED TO FOLLOW THE SCRIPT as part of the build. And is this the Vince Russo brain surgery match?
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Jun 15, 2019 04:59
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RealFoxy posted:
I remember the Lesnar match being good and the latter sounds really funny.
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Jun 15, 2019 05:03
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Hedgehog Pie posted:I'll have to watch it again but I also can't look past BUT GOLDBERG REFUSED TO FOLLOW THE SCRIPT as part of the build. And is this the Vince Russo brain surgery match? No clue. I just recalled that match getting ****1/4 from Dave when I was looking for Goldberg's best match last year.
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Jun 15, 2019 05:14
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Raven vs Goldberg at Nitro was a really good match IMO as well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHucO5nKAdg It wasn't a typical Goldberg squash and this was almost the peak of Goldberg's popularity. Shouldn't be a shocker since Raven and Goldberg are involved but there's a lot of shots to the head including Goldberg ramming his loving face into a chair instead of protecting himself
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Jun 15, 2019 05:18
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Admiral Joeslop posted:What are some of the biggest events that have "exposed" the business? Things like Austin giving the worst Schoolboy to Owen after his neck broke, or anything involving David Flair. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrX9Ca7LSyQ
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Jun 15, 2019 09:42
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Is there a reason why WWE doesn't treat the KSA events like house shows and just not air them on their network or promote them on air? It would still be a super lovely place to hold an untelevised house show but it wouldn't seem quite as lovely if they were hush hush about it like when a Nicki Minaj or a Jennifer Lopez are hired to perform at the birthday party of some horrific dictator.
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Jun 15, 2019 17:41
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bartok posted:Is there a reason why WWE doesn't treat the KSA events like house shows and just not air them on their network or promote them on air? Propaganda doesn't work if it's not broadcast. Edit to be more clear: The shows are not in any way for the people of KSA. KSA paid WWE an obscene amount of money to create 5 hour commercials for KSA that happen to feature wrestling. The first one had literal propaganda videos shown on the stream iirc. Critical fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Jun 15, 2019 |
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Jun 15, 2019 17:46
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bartok posted:Is there a reason why WWE doesn't treat the KSA events like house shows and just not air them on their network or promote them on air? They're not being paid hundreds of millions of dollars to put on wrestling shows. The money is for them to show propaganda in the US for Mohammad bin Salman and Vision 2030. And just to add to that, WWE probably wouldn't be facing as much criticism and anger if they were just holding wrestling shows there. People wouldn't be happy, but it would be a very different situation from accepting money from the government to be part of their propaganda that is being used to cover up literal genocide. Big Bidness fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Jun 15, 2019 |
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Jun 15, 2019 17:48
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yeah they only stopped putting glowing ksa propaganda into them when the crown prince went and had a wapo journalist chopped into little pieces, but they'd already paid for the rest of the propaganda shows so what's a poor multinational entertainment corporation to do?
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Jun 16, 2019 20:26
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Big Bidness posted:They're not being paid hundreds of millions of dollars to put on wrestling shows. The money is for them to show propaganda in the US for Mohammad bin Salman and Vision 2030.
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Jun 16, 2019 21:21
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I wouldn't be shocked if they phase that poo poo back in over the next 12 months, though.
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Jun 17, 2019 02:14
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WWE supports the same values as KSA, they've made two separate jokes mocking Khashoggi's murder, and Vince absolutely despises outside influence in his company. They already weathered the John Oliver storm without a scratch, why would they stop or slow down?
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Jun 17, 2019 02:18
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Low Desert Punk posted:WWE supports the same values as KSA, they've made two separate jokes mocking Khashoggi's murder, and Vince absolutely despises outside influence in his company. What?
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Jun 17, 2019 03:28
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they had a segment after a promo for the saudi arabia show where bray wyatt dismembered a doll and then apparently at the show itself baron corbin cut a promo about how heads are going to roll (saudi arabia regularly beheads people for horrific crimes, like being gay, or being a woman who wants basic human rights, or being ten years old)
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Jun 17, 2019 03:30
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I was asking about the jokes, I’m aware of the KSA’s reputation, it’s why we finally got rid of our Network account. And thank you.
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Jun 17, 2019 03:35
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those were the jokes. im not fakeposting,
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Jun 17, 2019 03:37
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Hmmmm, tried voting with my wallet. Voting with your wallet is bullshit unless you have about 1.5 trillion votes in your wallet. What now?
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Jun 17, 2019 03:47
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ChrisBTY posted:Hmmmm, tried voting with my wallet. Find some good things (i.e., not WWE) and vote for them with your wallet instead. That way they can continue to be good 
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Jun 17, 2019 04:04
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Gaz-L posted:I wouldn't be shocked if they phase that poo poo back in over the next 12 months, though.
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Jun 17, 2019 04:31
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Cudgel of bullshit is a quality turn of phrase.
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Jun 17, 2019 04:34
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i was just thinking how much i wish i could see the meeting between vince and co when they thought for sure that they were gonna be able to sign the elite and went ahead and bragged about it on raw. what's a backstage wrestling moment you wish you could be a fly on the wall for and please dont say when bruiser brody got murdered
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Jun 17, 2019 07:02
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Also, I might be making this up but didn't Steph crack out a line about how "dismemberment is a corporate liability" as well?shiksa posted:i was just thinking how much i wish i could see the meeting between vince and co when they thought for sure that they were gonna be able to sign the elite and went ahead and bragged about it on raw. Vince chasing Gerry Brisco (?) around with a piece of poopy underwear on a stick definitely comes to mind.
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Jun 17, 2019 07:12
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shiksa posted:i was just thinking how much i wish i could see the meeting between vince and co when they thought for sure that they were gonna be able to sign the elite and went ahead and bragged about it on raw.
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Jun 17, 2019 07:14
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all the powerful people came to the ring to take credit for big upcoming changes in the coming weeks when all kinds of cool poo poo would happen but then nothing changed at all so they just looked like crazy liars which is true anyway. so they may have just been crazy liars and it could very easily have had nothing to do with kenny omega
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Jun 17, 2019 07:25
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shiksa posted:what's a backstage wrestling moment you wish you could be a fly on the wall for Vince walking into Bret's locker-room after the Montreal Screwjob for sure.
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STONE COLD 64 posted:they had a segment after a promo for the saudi arabia show where bray wyatt dismembered a doll and then apparently at the show itself baron corbin cut a promo about how heads are going to roll (saudi arabia regularly beheads people for horrific crimes, like being gay, or being a woman who wants basic human rights, or being ten years old) the most notable one is the "dismemberment is a corporate liability" which happened just a couple of weeks after the assassination iirc
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Jun 17, 2019 08:14
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To go back a page; my first ever wrestling show was a random ICW show where I went with a friend and got very drunk post-exams and all I remember was a Viper-Kay Lee Ray match that was very good and then they became my favourites and probably are why I’m a fan of women’s wrestling. I mean it was probably not one of their better matches since they’ve wrestled a million times but I really enjoyed it. First vaguely-major card I went to was the first ROH show in Edinburgh which was interesting - highlights included seeing Naito a week after he won the G1 and Mistico, Ultimo Guerrero and other great CMLL dudes. quote:Kenny King defeats Colt Cabana and Josh Bodom This might not seem like much but its Scotland so we don’t get a lot of non-WWE major people often.
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Jun 17, 2019 12:06
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Bully Ray defeats EVIL makes me so angry just reading it 
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Jun 17, 2019 12:14
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Question from a friend: quote:I've only been following the GHC Heavyweight title for the last year or so, still very far behind. How is the rest of NOAH doing? Have the Juniors recovered from losing Ishimori? Is the tag division doing anything good?
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Jun 17, 2019 13:17
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super macho dude posted:Question from a friend: They probably have the best junior division in Japan right now, especially when it comes to the junior tag division. The tag division has also been fantastic, Go Shiozaki and Katsuhiko Nakajima have teamed up as AXIZ and are easily tag team of the year.
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Jun 17, 2019 14:04
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what living wrestler has had the most opponents who are now dead? it's probably some old luchador if i had to guess.
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Jun 17, 2019 21:19
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if you mean active wrestlers and count a match within the past 12 months as active, the two that would come to mind would be mil mascaras and dory funk jr. both have been wrestling since the mid 1960's and were big enough stars to be active in multiple regions throughout the world. mil might have the edge as while both were stars in the us and japan dory never did much in mexico afaik.
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