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A fate worse than death I guess for the Prikki   And yeah, Machine Empires are hilariously broken with Cybrex precursor lol. But still is fun to conquer a bunch of new planets and start planing and moving all the new pops into their new safe little homes 
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Restarted our MP game, new beta also is borked for MP (at least when we hit 9ish players, below that seemed..okay?), but stable as all get out for 13 players on the stable branch. Hopefully will be fixed soon!
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Jun 16, 2019 23:17
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Great Khan event is the worst and I hate it.
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Great Khan event is best, gotta pick up that -20% claim cost!
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Jun 17, 2019 05:37
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Milkfred E. Moore posted:Also, the dimensional portal chain where you talk to your warp FTL mirror universe is great if you're a robot. Personally I love the Megacorp one. "Hmm... There are giant space worms destroying our universe! There's only one thing to do... Establish a mutually beneficial trade agreement!"
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Its bad when you don't realize that its a mid game event because you have mid game set 50 years into the game and the Khan is sending fleets bigger than the power of every single ship in the galaxy at the time.
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The first thing I thought of when I got that mirror universe with warp option was helping them out arsenal of freedom style. I just kept economy booming and waiting for an option to pop up to shower my counterparts in galaxy crushing wealth and technology but... nope. Nothing doing.
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So how did the console version of this end up compared to the PC version?
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Splicer posted:For jumps was a bit much, but nerfing the jerk snipe was needed. This feels like a good compromise. I'm glad you have re-gained the ability to feel human. Splicer posted:Hey DarkRenown is the rare resources / industrial district tech thing a bug or a feature? Bug, I fixed, but not in time for that patch. uber_stoat posted:not trying to be an rear end in a top hat, it's just that I'm tired and slightly drunk and on certain occasions I have argued vehemently with Swedish people about certain important topics (pizza), which has in a certain sense prejudiced me. also I just started playing this again after a big gap and I never actually built a ringworld before, so having that rear end in a top hat war interrupt me was kind of annoying. Recently I had a pizza topped with pineapple, banana, and curry. A+ Milkfred E. Moore posted:Why is there such a difference in quality between the text for the Zoni and Baol chains? The Baol one is quite good, but the Zroni one is insanely rough. Single lines of text, grammatical and spelling errors, and just bad writing all round. Milkfred E. Moore posted:Also, the dimensional portal chain where you talk to your warp FTL mirror universe is great if you're a robot.  Well the Zroni and the Baol ones had different writers...I wrote the Zroni. I did write all the Dimensional portal events too though.
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I got some bug reports. The "promising officer" event will always spawn as your original main species, even if you've gene-modded yourself or even gone synth ascen. I also waged an independence war against a Materialist AE, with the support of the other two satellites. I got hosed by the army regen bug  and they forced a white-peace on me, which gave me independence but not the other two.
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Finished a Synth Ascension run on the Beta. Someone should have warned me. Their pop growth is super powerful, but also extremely tedious. I ended up with somewhere north of 8k bots in my empire and filled two ringworlds and two city planets until I got really tired of dealing with resettling. Getting the unemployment pop-up and finding 70 unemployed and homeless pops was a frequent occurence. And sector AI will always build a robot assembly even if you turned it off on the planet. The higher limit on concurrent Megastructures is nice. I built all of them, three at a time. Bug:Queued upgrades on a planet get auto cancelled form time to time, even in sectors that arent't automated.
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Is there a way to de-colonize a conquered system? I laid waste to a rival empire (as fanatic purifiers) but all of their planets are 20% habitability so I assume they're not worth developing until I get terraforming.
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And Tyler Too! posted:Is there a way to de-colonize a conquered system? I laid waste to a rival empire (as fanatic purifiers) but all of their planets are 20% habitability so I assume they're not worth developing until I get terraforming. IIRC you can resettle your pops out of there, and that will kill the colony.
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Jun 17, 2019 14:42
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And Tyler Too! posted:Is there a way to de-colonize a conquered system? I laid waste to a rival empire (as fanatic purifiers) but all of their planets are 20% habitability so I assume they're not worth developing until I get terraforming. As Fanatical Purifiers, the traditional way to do this is from orbit, with your largest-caliber guns. Since you've already conquered it, you can either resettle all the pops or turn off growth and set them to purge.
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Darkrenown posted:<stuff> Thanks for all your hard work on this! Is there any chance we could get the special fleets to have piracy suppression? Stuff like Bubbles, the Automated Dreadnought, the "Scrapped Fleet," and so on that you get through events and whatnot. I tend to leave these fleets on their own in my space for various reasons. They're slow, or they don't upgrade, or they're too cute to die, or whatever. I'd like for them to do some good other than just hovering over a bastion somewhere.
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Gort posted:So how did the console version of this end up compared to the PC version? I met someone this weekend who is really into the game and he's playing the console version, so it's playable. Beyond that, who knows!
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And Tyler Too! posted:Is there a way to de-colonize a conquered system? I laid waste to a rival empire (as fanatic purifiers) but all of their planets are 20% habitability so I assume they're not worth developing until I get terraforming. CRACK THE PLANET.
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Jun 17, 2019 15:29
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some extremely weird stuff happens when a science ship scans objects in a system with a black hole if you have ycocg disabled
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And Tyler Too! posted:Is there a way to de-colonize a conquered system? I laid waste to a rival empire (as fanatic purifiers) but all of their planets are 20% habitability so I assume they're not worth developing until I get terraforming. Kill all their pops and move all yours away. I think there's also an 'abandon colony' button somewhere. Really though, you're better off filling them with robots and strip-mining them.
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Gort posted:So how did the console version of this end up compared to the PC version? I own both versions. The console version is really good. I can't believe how well they handled the controls. It's some black magic voodoo. The biggest downside is that it is way behind the PC version in terms of features and DLC. It feels very bare-bones compared to the experience on today's PC version. They're still using Tiles and the most recent DLC is Utopia. I 100% endorse the console version to people who, for whatever reason, don't want to (or can't) play on a PC. It's good, and as DLCs release, getting better.
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I'm still skeptical that the console version is real, I just can't imagine playing Stellaris on a controller
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turn off the TV posted:I'm still skeptical that the console version is real, I just can't imagine playing Stellaris on a controller Having not seen it with my own eyes, I really have to assume the console version is an elaborate hoax.
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 This may be something that bothers me alone, but if you create more that 6 fleets and then delete some fleets until you have less than 6 fleets, it seems like a line or two of pixels at the top are suddenly off or something. You can see in the picture above how the very top of the 3 fleets on the top line are cut off. Also, as a personal thing, I wish there was a button next to the 'retrofit/delete/inspect' buttons that would allow you to upgrade a particular class of ships. Sometimes there are times when I may just want to upgrade one ship class or, in this particular circumstance, I don't want the Grand Herald to get 'upgraded' if I used the upgrade all button because it would actually be a downgrade.
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turn off the TV posted:I'm still skeptical that the console version is real, I just can't imagine playing Stellaris on a controller They did it pretty well, believe it or not. The D-Pad selects an edge of the screen and opens that widget where you can move around to pick sub-menus. These are, more or less, in the same place as the PC version. Like up lets you select resources, science, etc. Right is the outliner. Left is all those menus like species and factions; these have been somewhat reorganized from the PC version. Notifications are now on the bottom, and selected via the down button on the D-Pad. The sticks rotate, pan, and move cursor on the maps. The buttons are incredibly consistent. Pressing X does the same thing everywhere, for example. This is really the key bit that makes it work. The only thing I haven't figured out is how to add an order to the top of a queue, like you can with CTRL+SHIFT+CLICK in the PC version. This is a lack, but honestly, it's not something that makes-or-breaks the game. The hardest thing to do in the game is to combine fleets. Took me a bit to figure that one out (you have to multi-select the items in the outliner then find the stupid combine fleets menu option, and click it).
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TMMadman posted:
Take the Grand Herald out of the fleet. Set it to follow the fleet. Now it goes where the fleet goes, but doesn't upgrade with it. If you're afraid of leaving it behind, have your main fleet follow the Grand Herald instead.
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I've been letting the ship manager create the auto upgraded "best" ship for each size and just spamming that for fleets. Is this okay or am I going to be utterly ruining myself where my fleet strength will be meaningless because it'll have put shields on the guns or something? I just didn't fancy creating a dozen ships of different roles/types and updating them all after every tech.
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LordVorbis posted:I've been letting the ship manager create the auto upgraded "best" ship for each size and just spamming that for fleets. Is this okay or am I going to be utterly ruining myself where my fleet strength will be meaningless because it'll have put shields on the guns or something? I just didn't fancy creating a dozen ships of different roles/types and updating them all after every tech. It's probably fine.
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ConfusedUs posted:Thanks for all your hard work on this! Yeah, it just needs to be manually added (it's dumb). I was also thinking about moving piracy suppression off of ship hulls and onto weapons instead, but it's probably worth doing special ships anyway rather than leaving them in limbo until then. LordVorbis posted:I've been letting the ship manager create the auto upgraded "best" ship for each size and just spamming that for fleets. Is this okay or am I going to be utterly ruining myself where my fleet strength will be meaningless because it'll have put shields on the guns or something? I just didn't fancy creating a dozen ships of different roles/types and updating them all after every tech. I mean, it's no worse than what the AI has, so it's not bad assuming you;re playing SP. FYI you can design a ship type and set it to auto-update to new versions of the same thing. E.g. You don't need to go in and swap your Red lasers for Blue lasers.
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LordVorbis posted:I've been letting the ship manager create the auto upgraded "best" ship for each size and just spamming that for fleets. Is this okay or am I going to be utterly ruining myself where my fleet strength will be meaningless because it'll have put shields on the guns or something? I just didn't fancy creating a dozen ships of different roles/types and updating them all after every tech. edit: and you leave "auto-upgrade" on so that it will automatically upgrade the equipment that you get better tech for. I personally leave it off so I'm not upgrading every 6 months as a new tech gets rolled out, but that is just me. AAAAA! Real Muenster fucked around with this message at 17:23 on Jun 17, 2019 |
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Darkrenown posted:Yeah, it just needs to be manually added (it's dumb). I was also thinking about moving piracy suppression off of ship hulls and onto weapons instead, but it's probably worth doing special ships anyway rather than leaving them in limbo until then. edit: also the pirate-related tool-tips all could really use some clarifications and more/better info so the player does not need to check a wiki page to understand what is actually going on with Piracy.
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ConfusedUs posted:Take the Grand Herald out of the fleet. Set it to follow the fleet. I might consider that if I didn't hate single ship fleets. It just drives me nuts, but I know it's a personal thing. However, I still think a button to upgrade a single ship type would be useful. Sometimes I just want to upgrade the cruisers in the fleet for time or economy issues. Or maybe I have a trade deal that involves alloys that can get inadvertently broken at the end of a month, despite having a large positive alloy output, because of the way the game uses alloys during upgrades. Hell, they could just make the yellow arrow that indicates a ship is available to be upgraded just upgrade that ship/class of ships. Just like if you click the corner button on buildings it will automatically queue the upgrade if you can afford it.
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:Like IcyFisty said its probably fine, but the ship manager can end up making some poorly optimized ships. If you are feeling motivated or want to squeeze better performance in without a ton of effort/clicking it is pretty easy to go in and fit half shields half armor in all of the slots dedicated to those two items, fit 50% Lasers and 50% kinetics to the gun slots, pick a not-power boosting item for your wildcard slot. Oh and make sure as your ships get bigger you include some PD/Flak nad larger mounts. That alone will probably make better ships than the autodesigner? I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong. This is all I do. Although I don't bother with the PD because I build my fleets as 1 cruiser: 2 destroyer : 4 corvettes and cross my fingers the corvettes and destroyers can handle it with their small mounts.
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:Like IcyFisty said its probably fine, but the ship manager can end up making some poorly optimized ships. If you are feeling motivated or want to squeeze better performance in without a ton of effort/clicking it is pretty easy to go in and fit half shields half armor in all of the slots dedicated to those two items, fit 50% Lasers and 50% kinetics to the gun slots, pick a not-power boosting item for your wildcard slot. Oh and make sure as your ships get bigger you include some PD/Flak nad larger mounts. That alone will probably make better ships than the autodesigner? I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong. I'm of the opinion that everyone should just do mixed kinetic and energy weapons (so guns and lasers) unless they have a reason to do otherwise, like specializing against a specific foe. Darkrenown posted:Yeah, it just needs to be manually added (it's dumb). I was also thinking about moving piracy suppression off of ship hulls and onto weapons instead, but it's probably worth doing special ships anyway rather than leaving them in limbo until then. Excellent. And while I'm quoting both the weapon loadout thing AND a dev, I have to ask: have you guys ever discussed why the game randomizes weapon loadouts for AI? It doesn't make anything feel distinct, because it's all just a hodgepodge, and it sometimes results in really sub-optimal ship designs that just get rolled. I've always thought it would be better to assign specific ship loadouts to certain AI personalities, and default the player to something average. Players with a balanced loadout (like the above) would always do OK (barring the oddball all-missile or all-disruptor AI), but players who specialize would see a much more dynamic set of wars and potentially have to put more thought into their designs.
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LordVorbis posted:I've been letting the ship manager create the auto upgraded "best" ship for each size and just spamming that for fleets. Is this okay or am I going to be utterly ruining myself where my fleet strength will be meaningless because it'll have put shields on the guns or something? I just didn't fancy creating a dozen ships of different roles/types and updating them all after every tech. I wouldn't let it generate ship designs outright, but once you kit out your initial design, auto upgrade is fine.
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ulmont posted:This is all I do. Although I don't bother with the PD because I build my fleets as 1 cruiser: 2 destroyer : 4 corvettes and cross my fingers the corvettes and destroyers can handle it with their small mounts. Also I think I remember someone in the thread posting the research someone did on PD vs Flak numbers and that level 1 Flak is way better and totally insane?
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Darkrenown posted:Yeah, it just needs to be manually added (it's dumb). I was also thinking about moving piracy suppression off of ship hulls and onto weapons instead, but it's probably worth doing special ships anyway rather than leaving them in limbo until then.
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Splicer posted:Is there a reason it's not just fleet power/(arbitrary number)? Because it makes sense that battleships don't work very well as piracy suppression. They're very slow and don't generally have weapons which work well against small, quick ships (carriers excluded). I guess you could have the arbitrary number divisor just be based on the hull size, but that still doesn't represent things very well because carriers absolutely should be aces at piracy suppression. Escort carriers were a thing in the real world, escort battleships were not, and the reasoning is sound. It should be weapon based, with large (and XL) mounts and PD being basically worthless and fighters and small or medium mounts being the best. And pirates should do more than just show up and hang out in a system if you don't provide enough protection.
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Zurai posted:And pirates should do more than just show up and hang out in a system if you don't provide enough protection.
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LordVorbis posted:I've been letting the ship manager create the auto upgraded "best" ship for each size and just spamming that for fleets. Is this okay or am I going to be utterly ruining myself where my fleet strength will be meaningless because it'll have put shields on the guns or something? I just didn't fancy creating a dozen ships of different roles/types and updating them all after every tech. I personally like to create classes for each ship type, but you really only need 3-5 classes for each type. The easiest is the corvette because there are only 3 classes to make: interceptor, missile, picket. Then I look to make my first 20 ship fleet be 10 interceptors, 5 missiles and 5 pickets. The destroyers are usually ArtGun, GunGun, GunPick and maybe GunInt (but that is really just a weaker GunGun). I don't like the Picket bow on destroyers and PickGun ends up weaker than GunPick iirc (although i may have it reversed. For cruisers I think I go ArtArtBro, BroBroBro, BroHangGun and BroMissGun (or BroMissBro, I can't remember). And then I focus production on mostly ArtArtBro with the occasional other class. The BroHangGun can be surprisingly powerful, especially if you've got the ameoba upgrade. Its militarily power ends up being higher than the ArtArtBro. The BroMissGun is usually the weakest of them, but it's still nice to have a couple in larger fleets. I don't recall what exactly I do for Battleships, but it would follow the same path of creating a short/mid/long range class and maybe a more specialized class or two.
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