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Midjack posted:which would last right up until someone force updates something that breaks an especially critical system, and then force updating goes away forever. as has already happened
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Midjack posted:which would last right up until someone force updates something that breaks an especially critical system, and then force updating goes away forever. or until a forced driver update inevitably includes unnecessary bullshit. "why do all the nuclear reactor control computers suddenly have candy crush and the ask jeeves toolbar installed?"
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Midjack posted:which would last right up until someone force updates something that breaks an especially critical system, and then force updating goes away forever.
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mystes posted:Windows had broken too much stuff because of feature updates, but if we're just taking about security updates for local government that can't be bothered to update fire years it might actually be better to break it than let them keep using a known vulnerability version. you may not be wrong, but you deal with the crowd coming in for their ebt cards that you can’t issue today because windows update ate poo poo and see what you think about forced updates.
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governments get ltsb, users get automatic updates and can we just kill off any non-enterprise version of win7 already
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flakeloaf posted:as has already happened wasnt there a respiration machine or something that rebooted for windows update in the middle of open heart surgery so they had to keep the patient alive manually
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Krankenstyle posted:wasnt there a respiration machine or something that rebooted for windows update in the middle of open heart surgery so they had to keep the patient alive manually yeah, norway a year or 2 ago
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Shame Boy posted:this morning BBC had a story on ransomware that was pretty standard, except at the end they went and interviewed a company that's apparently ransomware consultants or something? where companies will contract the whole "deal with the criminals" part out to them, and they'll try to negotiate the price down and handle buying the bitcoins and stuff like that. seems like a fun job Totally legit. Friends with someone at a company that does IR, this is just one of their services.
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probably shouldn’t be running life supporting tech on a non real-time OS, anyways
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which the os license tells you not to do in giant letters
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Kazinsal posted:governments get ltsb, users get automatic updates
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:probably shouldn’t be running life supporting tech on a non real-time OS, anyways or, maybe, you know, buy the enterprise version of Windows and configure the update schedule through WSUS
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nah, i don't think windows should be used for anything that someones life depends on at all.
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:nah, i don't think
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we got dudes to the moon and back with a 2MHz guidance computer with 4KB of RAM and 72 KB of ROM goddamn surgical life support needs windows updates though
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Kazinsal posted:we got dudes to the moon and back with a 2MHz guidance computer with 4KB of RAM and 72 KB of ROM it’s not
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Vomik posted:it’s not when my stepmother had brain cancer and she had to get surgery, i was shocked by the surgeon who talked us and told us "there's nothing to worry about, nobody dies during brain surgery". he really seemed to trivialize it and it really made me stop thinking of "brain surgery" as some super complex thing. and no, it wasn't dr. nick, either
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Kazinsal posted:we got dudes to the moon and back with a 2MHz guidance computer with 4KB of RAM and 72 KB of ROM it might not have required a windows update but Apollo did need a doors update after Apollo 1
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:when my stepmother had brain cancer and she had to get surgery, i was shocked by the surgeon who talked us and told us "there's nothing to worry about, nobody dies during brain surgery". that's some fishmech level "well they stopped the surgery so they could die not in brain surgery" nitpicking
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:when my stepmother had brain cancer and she had to get surgery, i was shocked by the surgeon who talked us and told us "there's nothing to worry about, nobody dies during brain surgery". was he pitching ideas on housing and urban development too??
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no but he looked exactly like todd from scrubs. the surgery went off without a hitch, though. it just wasn't very effective.
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I've always heard that studying biology will make you marvel at the fantastic complexity that evolution and nature have achieved and studying medicine will make you marvel that our bodies ever work at all currently reading the emperor of all maladies and it's a long history of brilliant, driven people achieving so much and at the same time being absolutely wrong about so many things
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death isn’t the only terrifying risk of brain surgery. perhaps not even the most terrifying
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Shame Boy posted:or until a forced driver update inevitably includes unnecessary bullshit. we came in one morning and a PC had twitch.tv client bullshit all over it and we were trying to work out what form of security fuckup occurred that would let like a janitor's kid install and watch twitch on one of our PCs, looking at swipe in and swipe out times and what have you. turns out it was an AMD driver update
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haveblue posted:I've always heard that studying biology will make you marvel at the fantastic complexity that evolution and nature have achieved and studying medicine will make you marvel that our bodies ever work at all Both computers and bodies make you alternate between "this is amazing" and "how the gently caress does this work, at all"
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Trabisnikof posted:it might not have required a windows update but Apollo did need a doors update after Apollo 1 oof
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Subjunctive posted:death isn’t the only terrifying risk of brain surgery. perhaps not even the most terrifying seriously
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Subjunctive posted:death isn’t the only terrifying risk of brain surgery. perhaps not even the most terrifying You already post on SA though.
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endlessmonotony posted:You already post on SA though. ... makes you think, donut?
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pseudorandom name posted:or, maybe, you know, buy the enterprise version of Windows and configure the update schedule through WSUS queue some computer toucher going: "sure this update is fine to run for all boxes at 6 am"
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Shame Boy posted:or until a forced driver update inevitably includes unnecessary bullshit. i doubt critical power infrastructure runs a modern or up to date OS, or ever will
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“UNHACKABLE COMPUTER” which cannot be hacked in any way whatsoever. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/microsafex/worlds-first-patented-unhackable-computer-ever 
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Not a typewriter next to a fireplace, hackable
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Vomik posted:was he pitching ideas on housing and urban development too?? lol
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endlessmonotony posted:You already post on SA though. you call this posting?
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Oh look another worthy kickstarter, can't wait to see how this turns out  https://twitter.com/GossiTheDog/status/1144127167216988160?s=20 e: duh i should read upthread ewiley fucked around with this message at 14:07 on Jun 27, 2019 |
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Boiled Water posted:Not a typewriter next to a fireplace, hackable a fireplace in the room??? someone's ignoring sleigh santa dot io
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ewiley posted:Oh look another worthy kickstarter, can't wait to see how this turns out this is just two laptops glued together back to back where one has the wifi chip smashed
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ewiley posted:Oh look another worthy kickstarter, can't wait to see how this turns out P p p p Powerbook, the only unhackable laptop 
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CommieGIR posted:P p p p Powerbook, the only unhackable laptop whew thats a blast from the past
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