NBA Offseason N/V: We're All Betas Here

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Does Kawhi stay? This poll is closed.
He stay	95	32.20%
He leave	99	33.56%
ask Uncle Dennis	57	19.32%
burn down Toronto if he doesn't	44	14.92%
Total:	295 votes

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WhyteRyce: Dec 30, 2001

Dexo posted:

Creating space isn't hard. If you are looking to like just dump cap space getting nothing of value back (besides the space)

The Miami contacts are easy enough to jettison.
Wiggins is harder, but not impossible to move with an asset.

Creating space is easy if you don't mind attaching assets to it and the worst the contract the more you have to attach which. No one rents out cap space for free

# ? Jun 30, 2019 19:59

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# ? Jun 2, 2024 23:30

The Maestro: Feb 21, 2006

I will be so disgusted if Wiggins finds his way to the Kings, unless they attach KAT

# ? Jun 30, 2019 20:00

NotWearingPants: Jan 3, 2006; by Nyc_Tattoo; Nap Ghost

R.D. Mangles posted:

honestly jimmy buckets is the exact type of weirdo competitive psychopath as pat riley, he'll be great in miami

Jimmy's gonna be like "I didn't come to Miami to be coached by Eric Spoelstra" and Riley will return to the sideline.

# ? Jun 30, 2019 20:01

iamsosmrt: Jun 14, 2008

gently caress it, bring on Richardson and Co. Honestly, if this is the transitive trade of RoCo, Saric and Bayless, it wouldn't be the worst thing. As much as Jimmy sold me on his greatness these past playoffs, I wasn't completely in love with the idea of him long term. Ultimately, the Sixers will go as far as Simmons and Embiid ability to improve and if we gain quality depth back, then so be it, that'll help the process in the long run.

# ? Jun 30, 2019 20:01

WhyteRyce: Dec 30, 2001

Vlade seems loathe to flex his cap space on taking bad contracts. Sometimes that's bad, sometimes that's good

# ? Jun 30, 2019 20:02

NotWearingPants: Jan 3, 2006; by Nyc_Tattoo; Nap Ghost

I'm going to hold out hope for a Jimmy return until there's no hope left.

# ? Jun 30, 2019 20:03

Mean Baby: May 28, 2005

I�m gonna guess the mystery Wiggins team is the Bulls or Knicks

# ? Jun 30, 2019 20:03

Dexo: Aug 15, 2009; A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

WhyteRyce posted:

Creating space is easy if you don't mind attaching assets to it and the worst the contract the more you have to attach which. No one rents out cap space for free

The Miami players and #assets are solid enough to not need picks attached or any serious return.

Wiggins, yeah fam gonna need to give me a couple of picks and an unprotected first.

# ? Jun 30, 2019 20:03

NotWearingPants: Jan 3, 2006; by Nyc_Tattoo; Nap Ghost

Dexo posted:

The Miami players and #assets are solid enough to not need picks attached or any serious return.

Is this a new development because I thought they still had a collection of some of the worst contracts in the league? I mean the end is probably finally in sight in a year or two, but right now I'm p.sure they've still got one asset and a bunch of overpaid players.

# ? Jun 30, 2019 20:07

morestuff: Aug 2, 2008; You can't stop what's coming

NotWearingPants posted:

Is this a new development because I thought they still had a collection of some of the worst contracts in the league? I mean the end is probably finally in sight in a year or two, but right now I'm p.sure they've still got one asset and a bunch of overpaid players.

Sixers fans seem to think they're getting every good, appropriately paid player on Miami's roster

# ? Jun 30, 2019 20:08

Algund Eenboom: May 4, 2014

morestuff posted:

Suns seem like the obvious spot for Wiggins, right? They'll need to send him to a team with space, and they must have dumped TJ Warren for something

Wiggins could become a good player in the right situation imo, which is why he needs to stay as far away from the suns as possible

# ? Jun 30, 2019 20:08

Aye Doc: Jul 19, 2007

I've lost the tweet now but I saw Rubio to the Pacers and that seems like a nice place for him to go and be able to do Ricky things

# ? Jun 30, 2019 20:09

Fast Luck: Feb 2, 1988

I don�t see how the Sixers could trade Butler for other salary and still be able to sign Horford (and Tobias)

Maybe Brooklyn will take the Wiggins bullet

# ? Jun 30, 2019 20:09

morestuff: Aug 2, 2008; You can't stop what's coming

Algund Eenboom posted:

Wiggins could become a good player in the right situation imo, which is why he needs to stay as far away from the suns as possible

I mean who else? I could see Charlotte doing something dumb but the Wolves can't take salary back

# ? Jun 30, 2019 20:09

iamsosmrt: Jun 14, 2008

My biggest under the radar reservation about Jimmy G is that he's already at a place where he's noticeably slacking on the regular season to "turn it on" in the playoffs or crunch time. That's fine in some contexts, but I'm thinking the Sixers will need to take the regular season somewhat seriously especially if Embiid does his limited schedule. The turn it on mindset is fine for the Warriors or Lebron Cavs, but for teams that haven't really proven anything yet, it can be detrimental.

If they had the #2 seed this past season, arguably they'd have a very good chance at being defending champs right now. I'm not hating the idea of good depth.

# ? Jun 30, 2019 20:10

Nissin Cup Nudist: Sep 3, 2011; Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land

T-Minus 3 hours to go

morestuff posted:

https://twitter.com/ByTimReynolds/status/1145393449987973120?s=20

Good Job Elton

# ? Jun 30, 2019 20:10

iamsosmrt: Jun 14, 2008

Fast Luck posted:

I don�t see how the Sixers could trade Butler for other salary and still be able to sign Horford (and Tobias)

Maybe Brooklyn will take the Wiggins bullet

Yeah I have no clue how this should work, but this is going to be a crazy next 24 hours.

# ? Jun 30, 2019 20:11

nachos: Jun 27, 2004; Wario Chalmers! WAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

NotWearingPants posted:

Is this a new development because I thought they still had a collection of some of the worst contracts in the league? I mean the end is probably finally in sight in a year or two, but right now I'm p.sure they've still got one asset and a bunch of overpaid players.

There are a lot of solid players on less than 15m a year. Collectively it�s poo poo but there are good pieces, especially jrich.

# ? Jun 30, 2019 20:11

R.D. Mangles: Jan 10, 2004

big time assets, baby

# ? Jun 30, 2019 20:13

Vertical Lime: Dec 11, 2004

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1145409029151363072?s=21

# ? Jun 30, 2019 20:13

iamsosmrt: Jun 14, 2008

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

Good Job Elton

The fairest thing to judge Elton by is whatever he ends up with. If the Sixers get Chris Paul and Horford or some poo poo, it'll be a disaster.

# ? Jun 30, 2019 20:14

creamcorn: Oct 26, 2007; automatic gun for fast, continuous firing

Algund Eenboom posted:

Wiggins could become a good player in the right situation imo, which is why he needs to stay as far away from the suns as possible

the situation would have to be another person inhabiting his body, making him not play like Andrew Wiggins; he's been actively regressing for multiple seasons now.

# ? Jun 30, 2019 20:14

morestuff: Aug 2, 2008; You can't stop what's coming

Fine with Rozier in Charlotte as long as it's around $10-12M a year or a shorter-term thing

# ? Jun 30, 2019 20:15

WhyteRyce: Dec 30, 2001

nachos posted:

There are a lot of solid players on less than 15m a year. Collectively it’s poo poo but there are good pieces, especially jrich.

Richardson is a solid deal and maybe Phoenix is cool with renting Dragic for a year. Winslow probably has an interested party or two and Bam is on a rookie deal. Whiteside, Johnson, and Olynk are probably hard passes

# ? Jun 30, 2019 20:17