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Yinlock posted:two of them are worth a watch anyway How did he write himself into a corner with that movie?
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Covok posted:How did he write himself into a corner with that movie? you'll find out by watching it for 5 seconds e: like the biggest obstacle to making a 4.0 is that it would have to continue from 3.0 and 3.0 is an impossible mess of Bad Decisions
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Jul 1, 2019 03:08
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Yinlock posted:and again it's still a vital part of the plot despite how stupid it is Yeah, I agree with that.
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Jul 1, 2019 03:19
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I think the only time the show really shifts direction is for the 3 episodes after Asuka's introduction, those episodes lose the slow, contemplative scenes and feel like a kid's show.
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Jul 1, 2019 03:24
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eagerly waiting the day when the gap between the releases of 3.0 and 4.0 is larger than EoE's and 1.0's
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Jul 1, 2019 03:25
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We’re still supposed to see the first ten minutes next week, aren’t we?
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Jul 1, 2019 03:28
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Yinlock posted:you'll find out by watching it for 5 seconds Is it? I saw it last week and thought it was just fine. I don't why a sequel would be hard. Do people hate 3.0?
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Jul 1, 2019 03:59
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Midjack posted:We’re still supposed to see the first ten minutes next week, aren’t we? Whoahwoahwoah what Explain
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Jul 1, 2019 04:01
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Supposedly the VAs have already started recording their work, which means at the very least, they've done everything up to the storyboard animatic phase given the usual process of making anime, maybe even more. Now, keyframes, tweens, colors, CG and final composite? Probably not fully complete, and probably all at different levels of completion. However, I would bet the 2020 date is actually locked in, even if it was like Xmas 2020. Edit: ArfJason posted:Whoahwoahwoah what https://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2019/06/24/evangelion-screens-10-minutes-of-new-film-at-japan-expo-in-paris
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Jul 1, 2019 04:09
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ArfJason posted:Whoahwoahwoah what https://hypebeast.com/2019/6/first-10-mins-of-evangelion-3-0-1-0-screening-at-anime-expo-japan-expo
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Jul 1, 2019 04:12
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Why “children” instead of “child” in the Netflix dub? I have never seen the old dub so I don’t give a poo poo about not casting exactly the same voice actors that did the part two decades ago or whatever but this particular choice is really baffling. Children is plural. Edit: uhhh the German pronunciation is Not Good. Ogmius815 fucked around with this message at 04:40 on Jul 1, 2019 |
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Jul 1, 2019 04:34
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Ogmius815 posted:Why “children” instead of “child” in the Netflix dub? I have never seen the old dub so I don’t give a poo poo about not casting exactly the same voice actors that did the part two decades ago or whatever but this particular choice is really baffling. Children is plural.
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Jul 1, 2019 04:40
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Ogmius815 posted:Why “children” instead of “child” in the Netflix dub? I have never seen the old dub so I don’t give a poo poo about not casting exactly the same voice actors that did the part two decades ago or whatever but this particular choice is really baffling. Children is plural. Besides it being an English loan-word, I would guess it's because Rei is the first, and even the first Rei in the show is not the first Rei to exist.
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Jul 1, 2019 04:54
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Arkhams Razor posted:Because "children" is the term used everywhere in the Japanese version (as an English loan word), and Gainax/Khara are very insistent on it being translated that way for whatever reason. The only reason it wasn't so in the old dub/subs was that ADV successfully convinced Gainax at the time that it would sound stupid in English if the kept things the same. Well ADV was right it does sound stupid. It sounds like a terrible translation from an earlier decade with lesser QA standards honestly.
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Jul 1, 2019 04:55
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I've wondered if it would be savvy or stupid to have the scenes with Rei refer to her as the First Children and then Shinji+Asuka be the Second and Third Child.
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Jul 1, 2019 04:56
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Ogmius815 posted:
Yeah it's obviously just someone reading off a script without any knowledge of what German actually sounds like. Not the wierdest translation I've seen in Netflix anime. I was watching Kuromukuro and everyone is astonished that the ancient Japanese Samurai character can speak English, even though most of the characters are Japanese and the story is set in Japan. Then there was a scene where a character was quoting from the Book of Chivalry in the originial French, except is was dubbed in English while the Japanese translation in Kanji flashed up on the screen and all the characters amazed that the character spoke French. That was confusing as gently caress.
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Jul 1, 2019 05:06
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They actually made sure to pronounce "Nerv" right most of the time but definitely dropped the ball on the rest of the words, tho I guess Asuka's mangled German duplicates the authentic sub experience
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Jul 1, 2019 05:23
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Covok posted:Do people hate 3.0? I think it's hands-down the most divisive thing in the series, and more than a little of that is due to the wait on both ends of it. I also say this as an idiot who shepherded an entire podcast about the franchise over the past year though. I'm definitely way more burnt out on it than ever and that being "the final hurdle" was a real "WE ALL WANT TO GO HOME" recording
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Jul 1, 2019 06:05
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3.0 loving owns and I am here for Anno taking us on his wild rides whenever he drat well pleases
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Jul 1, 2019 06:16
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3.0 basically redeemed Rebuild as project into something worthwhile IMO. Well 1.0 and 2.0 were still fantastic looking anyways but are way more interesting knowing what they lead to.
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Jul 1, 2019 06:31
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Mermaid Autopsy posted:They actually made sure to pronounce "Nerv" right most of the time but definitely dropped the ball on the rest of the words, tho I guess Asuka's mangled German duplicates the authentic sub experience Asuka’s German in the sub version was hilarious and I don’t even speak German.
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Jul 1, 2019 07:55
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I imagine its like ADV Shinji's "think in German". "uhh bratwurst, strudel..."
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Zeruel posted:I imagine its like ADV Shinji's "think in German".
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Jul 1, 2019 08:27
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Casey's Shinji said "Baumkuchen" really well, though
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Jul 1, 2019 08:29
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I really enjoyed Rebuild's take on ol' Cubey though. A laser gun powered by all of Japan VS 3D shapes! Which shapes, you ask? Hold on tight, you're gonna see a couple!
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Jul 1, 2019 10:10
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I just finished watching the series again and I love it so much. I see new things every time I watch it. It had been a few years this time. Though I still need to go watch EoE. It's kind of emotionally draining, especially the last half dozen or so episodes.
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Jul 1, 2019 10:42
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Shinjobi posted:I really enjoyed Rebuild's take on ol' Cubey though. A laser gun powered by all of Japan VS 3D shapes! Which shapes, you ask? Hold on tight, you're gonna see a couple! I love that it gave rise to the phrase [screams geometrically]
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Jul 1, 2019 12:07
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3.0 really sucks, I get people like it because it does make it it’s own thing, but the movie would have worked better if the first two actually supported it and the pacing wasn’t trash. So you get a movie that just feels like set up for 4.0
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Jul 1, 2019 14:53
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My feeling has always been that I need to see what 4.0/3.0+1.0 does before I feel I can more fully evaluate 3.0 by itself, but at this point I am also so many years removed from when I last watched it that I should probably revisit it anyway. I just know it wasn't the movie that I was hoping for or expecting following 2.0 and while to a certain extent that's notable in of itself, it didn't result in what I felt was an overall satisfactory cinematic experience for me at the time.
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Ultraklystron posted:Supposedly the VAs have already started recording their work, which means at the very least, they've done everything up to the storyboard animatic phase given the usual process of making anime, maybe even more. Now, keyframes, tweens, colors, CG and final composite? Probably not fully complete, and probably all at different levels of completion. However, I would bet the 2020 date is actually locked in, even if it was like Xmas 2020. Midjack posted:https://hypebeast.com/2019/6/first-10-mins-of-evangelion-3-0-1-0-screening-at-anime-expo-japan-expo sick
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i have had a thuoght in the back of my head that asuka being the only real member of the cast to talk regularly in two languages had some significance but i could never really put my finger on it.
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Jul 1, 2019 16:17
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So I have a vague understanding that EoE is kind of a replacement for 25-26 but I should still watch those first, right?
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Shinjobi posted:I really enjoyed Rebuild's take on ol' Cubey though. A laser gun powered by all of Japan VS 3D shapes! Which shapes, you ask? Hold on tight, you're gonna see a couple! I saw that clip on YouTube and was blown away by how incomprehensibly alien and powerful it was compared to the original. The sound design added a percussive kind of zzzPPMMM to its beam attack thingy that made you feel like you'd get a concussion just being near it.
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Jul 1, 2019 17:09
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I like to think EoE is 25-26 but from a 3rd person perspective.
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Jul 1, 2019 17:17
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Someone once explained to me that 25-26 is like the “good” ending of a video game and EoE is the “bad” ending and that’s fine with me because they don’t make any sense put together. Edit: considering that the apocalypse apparently happens in both endings, doesn’t that kind of undercut everything about the show though? Like, if the end of the world that Shinji experiences is a kind of metaphor for failing to adapt to mental illness/growing up to be an abusive and misogynistic fucker like his dad shouldn’t something happen that prevents it in 25-26 when he appears to have a kind of breakthrough? Ogmius815 fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Jul 1, 2019 |
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Jul 1, 2019 17:45
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Ogmius815 posted:Someone once explained to me that 25-26 is like the “good” ending of a video game and EoE is the “bad” ending and that’s fine with me because they don’t make any sense put together. The way I see it is 25/26 are what happened inside shinji's head during the third impact and then when he is part of the tang he get's his happy ending and then is put free into the world and all his insecurities and mind gently caress comes back when he has to deal with the reality of his choice
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my interpretation is that in the show he accepts instrumentality and the mind meld of everyone helps him understand himself and recognize himself as worthy of happiness, while in the movie he rejects instrumentality recognizing his humanity and failings (mostly through criticisms from the other consciousnesses is that a real word), deciding he has no right to choose for anyone else and letting anyone get off the juicetrain if they so choose. they are good endings for entirely different reasons imo
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Ogmius815 posted:because they don’t make any sense put together. They both contain important and interlinked messages of to never stop fighting for your place in the world, of to never give up trying to connect with people and that loving yourself first is the most important part of doing those things. The endings aren't Good or Bad. Shinji comes away with deep introspection that we see him act on in his stopping of choking Asuka. The show ending is him learning that he has the right to be here in the world, that he has value, and the movie tells him that too but adds "it's gonna be loving work, man" Asuka is one of the most difficult people for Shinji to interact with, but even with all of his guilt and shame, when it would be way "easier" for him to kill her, he doesn't, and decides that living with her, even with all the ways she can hurt him and he can hurt her, is deeply worth it. e: the final scene of EoE is Shinji basically once again deciding that he mustn't run away. That he has to stick it out and all of this hardship will bear fruit one day if he can stick with it. Expect My Mom fucked around with this message at 18:17 on Jul 1, 2019 |
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Expect My Mom posted:they extremely do though yeah this
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