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Sampatrick posted:Uh based on what? Like, financially sure, but in terms of finding new players, that's basically never been true. Chinese contracts are also extremely draconian and have extremely severe penalties for trying to leave. Giving established Chinese teams even more power over up and coming players seems like a huge mistake to me. China has been extremely dominant over the years compared to literally any other country. We treat it like a region. A huge number of incredible players throughout the years have been Chinese.
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TheRat posted:China has been extremely dominant over the years compared to literally any other country. We treat it like a region. A huge number of incredible players throughout the years have been Chinese. That's because China is a region. (Edit: This comes off as extremely flippant. What I mean is that China is a country of over a billion people; of course you would expect it to have more good players than any other country. This isn't like South Korea's dominance in League of Legends.) In any case, you could make the exact same argument for EU or what have you. Rotk has talked about this at length: Chinese teams are bad at picking up new talent and sign people to really lovely contracts. shades of blue fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Jul 8, 2019 |
# ? Jul 8, 2019 21:49 |
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I think you’re loving stupid
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# ? Jul 8, 2019 21:51 |
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The REAL Goobusters posted:I think you’re loving stupid So we shouldn't trust Chinese player Rotk's opinion about Chinese teams and should instead trust you?
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# ? Jul 8, 2019 21:52 |
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Sampatrick posted:So we shouldn't trust Chinese player Rotk's opinion about Chinese teams and should instead trust you? you know the team Rotk coaches is full of new talent right? Same with LGD last year. These were players that were developed through the robust tier 2/academy system that China has. Yes you are dumb as poo poo
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# ? Jul 8, 2019 21:54 |
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sugar free jazz posted:yea it owned And those were after he upgraded from destroying keyboards.
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# ? Jul 8, 2019 21:55 |
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There have been Youth/B teams for several of the Chinese orgs for a while now, which is a lot more than essentially any non-Chinese team can say
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# ? Jul 8, 2019 21:57 |
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the spirit of craptacular lives on
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# ? Jul 8, 2019 21:57 |
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The REAL Goobusters posted:I think you’re loving stupid
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# ? Jul 8, 2019 21:59 |
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The REAL Goobusters posted:you know the team Rotk coaches is full of new talent right? Same with LGD last year. These were players that were developed through the robust tier 2/academy system that China has. Yeah, LGD in 2018 was full of new talent like uh well Maybe is from 2015, fy is obviously old school, xNova is a newish SEA player, well I guess Ame and Chalice were new Chinese players. Like come the gently caress on dude Rotk's team is literally him trying to prove the rest of China wrong. He talked about this a year ago. You're also not responding at all to the extremely lovely contracts that Chinese players are forced to sign if they want to join any teams. For fucks sake, just read his Weibo post.
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# ? Jul 8, 2019 22:00 |
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emdash posted:There have been Youth/B teams for several of the Chinese orgs for a while now, which is a lot more than essentially any non-Chinese team can say Yeah, isn’t this mostly just setting up a formal competition for all those Youth/B teams that already exist?
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# ? Jul 8, 2019 22:03 |
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emdash posted:There have been Youth/B teams for several of the Chinese orgs for a while now, which is a lot more than essentially any non-Chinese team can say Yes, obviously, that doesn't mean that Chinese teams are actually better at finding new players than EU teams are or what have you. They also sign those players to really lovely contracts so that they literally can't leave for several years. So they financially do support new players, but they certainly aren't finding more new players, and what they do when they find new players is really loving lovely. That's why it's not a good thing for all the Chinese teams to organize to buy up literally every new player and trap them in lovely loving contracts.
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# ? Jul 8, 2019 22:04 |
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I hope a South American team wins The International 9 by selecting the hero Grimstroke, IMO.
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# ? Jul 8, 2019 22:05 |
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rjmccall posted:Yeah, isn’t this mostly just setting up a formal competition for all those Youth/B teams that already exist? Formalizing the predatory policies of Chinese teams is really lovely and is why Valve should take a more hands on approach to every region.
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# ? Jul 8, 2019 22:09 |
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Centzon Totochtin posted:the spirit of craptacular lives on It might just be worse than that
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# ? Jul 8, 2019 22:13 |
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Come on now
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# ? Jul 8, 2019 22:28 |
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ive seen some mentions to a github program to remove hats from dota2, any of u know what the program is?
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# ? Jul 8, 2019 22:39 |
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Not Al-Qaeda posted:ive seen some mentions to a github program to remove hats from dota2, any of u know what the program is? https://github.com/No-Bling/DOTA
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# ? Jul 8, 2019 22:53 |
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TOOT BOOT posted:I don't think Valve gives a poo poo about growing Dota anymore, to the extent that they ever did care Woah now, we got TEN FREE LEVELS in our battlepasses when we gave valve more money than last year buddy
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# ? Jul 8, 2019 23:07 |
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late but lmao gambit
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# ? Jul 8, 2019 23:29 |
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Does SA not know you can eat Aghs and get a better 6th slot?
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# ? Jul 9, 2019 00:36 |
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ILL Machina posted:And those were after he upgraded from destroying keyboards. lol yea thats right he doesn't he have just a stable of replacement keyboards sittin around, gorgc owns
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# ? Jul 9, 2019 00:43 |
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Gorgc owns but he also can't like mentally shut out people trying to make him mad in his chat and I've seen streams where he seems like legit about to have a mental breakdown. Which is usually funny as a viewer of course but I feel bad for the dude sometimes.
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# ? Jul 9, 2019 00:47 |
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SA region-crashers HAM eliminated in the qualifier group stages.
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# ? Jul 9, 2019 00:48 |
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100k hero damage on a sniper.
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# ? Jul 9, 2019 00:49 |
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I'm a tiltlord but gently caress destroying my own poo poo over this game, that's just foolish
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# ? Jul 9, 2019 00:50 |
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gently caress yeah the euros got eliminated from the SA qualifier.
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# ? Jul 9, 2019 01:04 |
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The REAL Goobusters posted:gently caress yeah the euros got eliminated from the SA qualifier. I’m not aware of the whole qualification process but how did that even happen? Shouldn’t they have been immediately DQ’d?
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# ? Jul 9, 2019 01:36 |
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Libertine posted:I’m not aware of the whole qualification process but how did that even happen? Shouldn’t they have been immediately DQ’d? They’ve been living in SA for a while so they were ok.
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# ? Jul 9, 2019 01:41 |
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The REAL Goobusters posted:gently caress yeah the euros got eliminated from the SA qualifier. I know you explained it in your following post but goddamn I'll never understand how that stack managed to play in South America.
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# ? Jul 9, 2019 01:50 |
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Bot TI baby!
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# ? Jul 9, 2019 01:52 |
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They did have an Argentinian on the team, but yeah, four out-of-region players was really sketchy and all right-minded people should be glad they failed.
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# ? Jul 9, 2019 02:03 |
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rjmccall posted:They did have an Argentinian on the team, but yeah, four out-of-region players was really sketchy and all right-minded people should be glad they failed. Right-minded people don't have anything to do with this game/genre
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# ? Jul 9, 2019 02:05 |
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TOOT BOOT posted:Right-minded people don't have anything to do with this game/genre Yes, but if you tracked them down at the orphanage and took their tray of medicine away and forced them to listen to an explanation of the structure of the Dota region system and its secondary consequences, they would probably agree that playing out of region with a single token team member isn’t okay, and it might not just be a ploy to get their tray back.
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# ? Jul 9, 2019 02:18 |
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BOT TI IS ON
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# ? Jul 9, 2019 02:23 |
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Kunkka didn't have tidebringer?
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# ? Jul 9, 2019 02:24 |
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this is dota bumfights and I love it so much
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# ? Jul 9, 2019 02:32 |
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I predict my boy shadow demon goes to bot ti finals unless he runs into aba earlier.
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# ? Jul 9, 2019 03:14 |
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GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:Gorgc owns but he also can't like mentally shut out people trying to make him mad in his chat and I've seen streams where he seems like legit about to have a mental breakdown. Which is usually funny as a viewer of course but I feel bad for the dude sometimes. Yeah, his tiltability is one of the biggest things keeping him from being on a decent team. He's acknowledged it on stream and has said he's trying to get better about keeping levelheaded while still being very passionate about the game. I don't personally have the impulse to lash out with my limbs when I'm frustrated and I break, but I definitely know people like that. Playing dota for more than eight hours a day seems to break your brain and you'll inevitability become unhealthily invested in a trivial thing like a team fight. ILL Machina fucked around with this message at 05:38 on Jul 9, 2019 |
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I do love gorc stream when they are chill so I hope the dude puts up a good showing in TI
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