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Neddy Seagoon posted:You have too much fibre in your network. More like not enough fibre.
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It's cool, someone's just streaming.
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Jul 11, 2019 05:30
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A ticket came in somewhere and has since been closed as solved: https://i.imgur.com/GcFQIrm.mp4
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Jul 11, 2019 12:21
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Wizard of the Deep posted:🎶Print job roasting, on an open fire... 
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Jul 11, 2019 14:49
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D. Ebdrup posted:A ticket came in somewhere and has since been closed as solved: code:
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Jul 11, 2019 14:52
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D. Ebdrup posted:A ticket came in somewhere and has since been closed as solved: Needfull complete: A drip pan is now under the cable. EFB! 
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Jul 11, 2019 14:54
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A ticket came in: "I cannot dial-out. It is frustrating as I need to make many phone calls today. I have to onboard someone via phone in 30 mins. Same message as prior. HELP NEEDED." A response was sent: "As stated clearly in the 3 company wide incident emails this morning, and as a response to your previous ticket for the same issue, no one can make outbound calls in the entire company. This is not just impacting you, the problem is a global Microsoft issue." I'm probably going to hear about that one and catch some finger waggling from my director.
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Jul 11, 2019 17:47
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Problem:
Solution: duz posted:Internet pipe has a leak
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Jul 11, 2019 19:45
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D. Ebdrup posted:A ticket came in somewhere and has since been closed as solved: Drain the node, let the containers reallocate elsewhere.
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Jul 11, 2019 19:58
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D. Ebdrup posted:A ticket came in somewhere and has since been closed as solved: A Ticket Came In: Streaming no longer working
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Jul 11, 2019 20:01
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I guess the other end of that is a radio somewhere
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Jul 11, 2019 20:03
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sfwarlock posted:It's cool, someone's just streaming.
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Jul 11, 2019 20:23
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Aunt Beth posted:It’s UDP, not every drop has to make it to the destination 
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Jul 11, 2019 20:41
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DigitalMocking posted:A ticket came in: "Why are you wasting time responding to my tickets instead of resolving the outbound calling issue??!!"
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Jul 11, 2019 20:48
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nullfunction posted:Drain the node, let the containers reallocate elsewhere.
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Jul 11, 2019 21:17
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D. Ebdrup posted:A ticket came in somewhere and has since been closed as solved: None of the mandatory data-leak prevention courses covered this!
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Jul 12, 2019 03:26
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Just put a bit bucket under it.
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Jul 12, 2019 06:54
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Anyone know a dumb permissions issue? When in AD, you can right-click a user and choose Copy. When my intern does it, Copy doesn't appear. I'm trying to show him the GUI way before the Powershell way.
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Jul 12, 2019 14:43
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GreenNight posted:Anyone know a dumb permissions issue? When in AD, you can right-click a user and choose Copy. When my intern does it, Copy doesn't appear. I'm trying to show him the GUI way before the Powershell way. Skip it. PowerShell only.
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Jul 12, 2019 17:55
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Eh I figured it out. Built in groups have the correct permissions. The guy is 3 years into a 4 year comp sci degree and has never seen PowerShell or any type of scripting what so ever.
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Jul 12, 2019 18:12
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GreenNight posted:The guy is 3 years into a 4 year comp sci degree and has never seen PowerShell or any type of scripting what so ever. loving what
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Jul 12, 2019 18:23
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Dirt Road Junglist posted:loving what Right? I'm like what the gently caress have you been doing for the past 3 years. Although maybe it's him. He never used a screwdriver before in his life before he started working for me. I had to teach him the "lefty loosy, righty tighty" method.
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Jul 12, 2019 18:24
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GreenNight posted:Eh I figured it out. Built in groups have the correct permissions. The guy is 3 years into a 4 year comp sci degree and has never seen PowerShell or any type of scripting what so ever. I have run into this more often than you might think. CompSci tends to teach you C/C++/C#/Java/Assembly and not a lot of actual scripting. It's entirely possible they've used Python but never considered it a scripting language? You'd think the concept wouldn't be foreign to them, but most certainly the syntax and cmdlets would be. No time to learn like the present though.
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Jul 12, 2019 18:31
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The analogy I've always heard is "Computer Science is to IT administration as Astronomy is to telescope construction". Modern astronomers may know generals about how lenses and mirrors are ground and polished, but actually doing it is an entirely different skillset. That said, powashell4eva.
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Jul 12, 2019 18:42
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I have a BS in comp sci and that sounds completely right. You learn about development, and how computers work under the hood, but nothing about administration. 4 years in school and not once I even heard the word powershell, or concepts like active directory. I left school knowing the logic gates that make RAM work but not even a mention on how to replace a stick of it, or the symptoms when it fails. It's a different skill set is all. Comp sci has no overlap to IT. E: we offered an OS class where, by the end of the class you built a rudimentary but still functional OS from scratch. But want to learn to dual boot Linux and windows? lol get the gently caress out of here nerd Renegret fucked around with this message at 18:53 on Jul 12, 2019 |
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Jul 12, 2019 18:49
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Aunt Beth posted:It’s UDP, not every drop has to make it to the destination Universal Drip Protocol
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Jul 12, 2019 18:53
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I never did any scripting for classes when earning my comp sci degree, but I did some for my own benefit on side projects. I can totally see someone going through a whole degree program without suing any scripting at all. All that said: scripting makes life better and everyone should do it. 
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Antioch posted:Universal Drip Protocol
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Jul 12, 2019 22:51
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Dirt Road Junglist posted:loving what Full on CS degree here, self taught bash. Powershell wasn't a thing then either!
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Jul 13, 2019 01:50
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iospace posted:Full on CS degree here, self taught bash. Powershell wasn't a thing then either! Yes, but you understand how to program. This person...apparently doesn't.
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Jul 13, 2019 01:53
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Computer Science degrees are pretty much just Software Engineering degrees for the most part. When I went back to college I aimed for a course called "Computing" because the class list was more sysadmin-ey than what I did first, and the first week I was there they changed it to "Computer Science (Infrastructure)" which is... fair TBH. Fucktons of focus on practical networking and scripting poo poo to run automatically in linux, and a whole module on deploying poo poo to the cloud via containers, VMs etc.
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Jul 13, 2019 02:09
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Arquinsiel posted:Computer Science degrees are pretty much just Software Engineering degrees for the most part. When I went back to college I aimed for a course called "Computing" because the class list was more sysadmin-ey than what I did first, and the first week I was there they changed it to "Computer Science (Infrastructure)" which is... fair TBH. Fucktons of focus on practical networking and scripting poo poo to run automatically in linux, and a whole module on deploying poo poo to the cloud via containers, VMs etc. Around Christmas I spent a bunch of time talking to a new guy we hired who was a fresh cs grad and I was pretty surprised that at absolutely no point during a cs degree are you introduced to how linux works in terms of even ssh keys or even basic networking. Compiler theory sure, sorting algorithms okay, but it didn't teach even practical software development things like testing patterns or deployment. Let alone things like istio style service mesh stuff.
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Jul 13, 2019 03:02
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In the real world, Linux is not what the typical CS undergrad is going to do.
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Jul 13, 2019 06:56
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Sysadmin is more of a trade imo. You're the "good with computers" kid that goes to work somewhere on tier 1 support or pulling cables or whatever, that's your apprenticeship. You slowly work your way up to tier 2, then start rolling into more specialized stuff like networking, dba, scripting, Unix/Linux etc. You get a few certifications here and there and before you know it you're a Journeyman sysadmin. They don't at all teach the necessary skills to be a sysadmin in the average college CS program. You learn how to program. You don't even learn how to program in a modern environment with things like CI/CD.
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Jul 13, 2019 07:02
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spankmeister posted:Sysadmin is more of a trade imo. I agree and disagree with that. I think administration can be standardized like accounting. Comparing it to a trade like plumbing would mean we figured out "don't poo poo in the same river you drink from" 40 years ago, and today we're dealing with how bad lead actually is and PEX pipes. spankmeister posted:They don't at all teach the necessary skills to be a sysadmin in the average college CS program. You learn how to program. You don't even learn how to program in a modern environment with things like CI/CD. Trying to learn COBOL in the mid 2000s was what turned me off to a comp sci degree. At best, it seems like most CS degrees are at least a decade behind what we currently recognize as good, productive ideas and methods.
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Jul 13, 2019 07:15
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Wizard of the Deep posted:I agree and disagree with that. I think administration can be standardized like accounting. It really can't. The only way to get good at it is picking up a lifetime's worth of encountering loving weird incompatibilities, bugs, and workarounds for dozens of different pieces of hardware and software produced by various vendors. Sysadmin work is very much a job based on what you know as much as what you do.
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Jul 13, 2019 07:23
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Yea, I phrased that poorly. Some parts are somewhat standardized, like managing users and groups in AD, or dealing with peripheral failures. If anything, administration currently is like auto mechanics: There'll be some stuff most everyone should be able to handle, juniors/apprentices can deal with moderately basic stuff (like oil changes and tire rotations), but when you get something really weird ("I hear a knocking sound every 13 minutes, and my glovebox locks itself") needs a master who can view and understand the whole system. Computers are so new, though, we're still way to early to have standardized much.
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Jul 13, 2019 07:34
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Wizard of the Deep posted:Trying to learn COBOL in the mid 2000s was what turned me off to a comp sci degree. At best, it seems like most CS degrees are at least a decade behind what we currently recognize as good, productive ideas and methods. They wanted you to learn COBOL in the mid 2000s? I entered a CS program in 2001 and my classes were taught in Java. I have never heard of COBOL being part of any CS curriculum. I ended up not caring for the CS program and switching out of it -- I always wanted to do IT -- but that one year taught me some very valuable stuff that I actually do use on the job. Basic software engineering skills are useful when you're scripting. Is this the most efficient way I can do this? Maybe I should compartmentalize this into different functions? I should define constants at the top rather than hardcoding them in. I should write comments. I should format my code in a readable way with proper indents and casing. I am actually skeptical that individuals writing automation is going to remain the future at least in networking, which is my specialty. Over time I think vendors will start to provide their own tools to do the automation side, and they're already starting to. Expecting people to have deep domain knowledge and also be good programmers is a pretty big ask.
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Wizard of the Deep posted:Trying to learn COBOL in the mid 2000s was what turned me off to a comp sci degree. At best, it seems like most CS degrees are at least a decade behind what we currently recognize as good, productive ideas and methods. That's really loving weird. In the same era, I started my degree and the main high level languages we used were Java and C. Even with that there was a certain dated feel to the courses. Also all of the department's lab computers were Linux / Unix.
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duz posted:Internet pipe has a leak You know the most terrifying thing about that? Someone probably deliberately put that cut in the cable jacket for drainage and thought they were solving a problem.
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