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Apparently Kovalev’s team received an offer for a Canelo fight but don’t think they’ll be able to work out details in time to justify not taking the Yarde fight. I’m no manager or whatever, but I can’t help but feel they should’ve prioritizing Canelo here.
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:Apparently Kovalev’s team received an offer for a Canelo fight but don’t think they’ll be able to work out details in time to justify not taking the Yarde fight. I imagine that if Kovalev chooses to fight Canelo instead of Yarde (his mandatory), he’d be stripped of his title, which in turn would mean that Canelo would probably have 0 interest in fighting him. Canelo knows this of course, which makes me think he’s throwing out the names of Kovalev and Callum Smith with no actual intention of fighting either guy, at least not for his next fight.
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Cigar Aficionado posted:I imagine that if Kovalev chooses to fight Canelo instead of Yarde (his mandatory), he’d be stripped of his title, which in turn would mean that Canelo would probably have 0 interest in fighting him. I've come around to thinking that Canelo will fight Andrade. There's no way Andrade can adjust his style to win a decision and it's not like he's going to hit Canelo that much anyways. And he'll get more credit than if he crushes Munguia which at least somewhat still seems to matter him. The SituAsian fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Jul 5, 2019 |
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Well it’s already been proven that Canelo can legitimately lose 8 or 9 rounds and at least eke out a draw on the official judges’ scorecards, if not a 7-5 win, so I agree that he’d be open to fighting Andrade. Andrade has limited power and 0 finishing ability, so he’s not particularly dangerous, despite being highly skilled.
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Jul 5, 2019 23:06
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Tyson Fury is saying that he's signed the contract for a rematch against Deontay Wilder, for February 22nd 2020. December through February will be a division altering three months for the heavyweight division, which could possibly set up future, major unification fights later in 2020.
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Cigar Aficionado posted:Tyson Fury is saying that he's signed the contract for a rematch against Deontay Wilder, for February 22nd 2020. gently caress yes.
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Jul 8, 2019 01:07
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also, The Ring Magazine got the guy who made Hajime no Ippo to draw this month's cover
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That’s super rad. Maybe this is just me but that doesn’t look like Inoue to me.
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Jul 9, 2019 02:35
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Man, Mike looks oooold in this: https://www.instagram.com/p/BzrC8BjgCTa/
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Cigar Aficionado posted:Tyson Fury is saying that he's signed the contract for a rematch against Deontay Wilder, for February 22nd 2020. This will add some drama to the Wilder-Ortiz match along with whoever Tyson Fury will be fighting this fall (possibly Big Baby Miller?). I think it's smart these two are doing it this way, it's risky but it's also a solid way to promote these guys individually and drum up some casual fan interest in the rematch. From what I've seen on Manny's Instagram he looks sharp and ready for Thurman, of course those are the clips his camp is putting out but I think I'm rolling with Manny in that fight, his movement is unlike anyone Keith's fought even in 2019.
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Jul 9, 2019 18:27
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbUfIqOZfV8 New video up from Boxing Legends TV on the current state of the Heavyweight division, good stuff, introduced a pretty casual fan like me to some up and coming fighters.
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Jul 9, 2019 19:01
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Jack B Nimble posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbUfIqOZfV8 hey he's back.
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Speaking of new videos SB Nation has a rewind- the best sport series on Youtube imo- of Tyson-Douglas https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4rHtSlaHqg
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I just realized I know a lot more about women's mma than boxing, which is wierd because I like boxing more as a spectator. Links to important/ good fights? All I know Ali's daughter was wrecking poo poo for a while, I saw her fighting someone callled...the coal miner's daughter?
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Jul 10, 2019 16:15
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Ali was good but she ducked Ann Wolfe, who was probably the best at the time but never received the media attention of Ali. Women’s boxing isn’t as much of as a thing as WMMA, the bouts are shorter, 2 minute rounds with a max of 10 rounds and aren’t generally promoted as much. The big female boxers at the moment are Claressa Shields, Katie Taylor and Cecelia Braekhaus. Claressa Shields has dominated two weight classes now and has moved down to conquer a third. Her fights with Hanna Gabriels and Christina Hammer are good watches. Katie Taylor is a British hype job who just got a gift decision against Delfine Persoon. If you want to watch a Taylor fight, that’s the only time she fought somebody good, so that’s the one to watch. Cecilia Braekhaus has been in the pro game longer than the other two and has been a dominate champion for quite some time. For good portions of time she’s been the only unified champion in boxing. She’s good, but never seems to have competent enough opposition to trouble her.
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Thanks, I've got a long weekend coming up and can get caught up. It's a shame the rules and promotions leave women's boxing less popular, guys at my gym talk about the technique of women's mma fighters with nothing but respect, it was pleasantly surprising.
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Khan fighting in Saudi Arabia this Friday. It seems like every year or other year we hear about some multimillion dollar fight deal for a fight in Saudi Arabia, I think this is the first "big" fight I can think of happening there though.
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He’s fighting Billy Dib though, a regional lightweight fighter. E: I felt like I was being harsh, checked boxrec again and realized that calling him a lightweight is being pretty generous actually, given that his most recent win of significance was at featherweight Jump King fucked around with this message at 20:07 on Jul 11, 2019 |
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Well yeah it's not a good fight lol. But Khan is a fairly big name for the sport and I can't think of anyone as notable going to Saudi Arabia for a fight. Other Khan fights have been talked about there and I know Manny has gotten offers a few times to fight there (or at least that's what has been reported) so I'm kinda interested just in seeing how this event plays out. When I think Saudi Arabia I don't really think "boxing."
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George Groves vs Callum Smith was in Saudi Arabia too, so they're definitely working on it.
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Khan's making noises about making Saudi Arabia into the new Vegas or Atlantic City. Like, a proper fight destination. Sure. Okay. Have fun with that.
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the Saudi government are investing heavily in sports events as a kind of domestic and international public relations campaign, expect more of this anyway Murata KO'd Rob Brant in a two round war, I always thought the first fight was a blip for Murata but never expected this performance.
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I was completely blown away. I thought Brant exposed Murata in the first fight. I’m not going to say Murata fixed everything that went wrong exactly, one of his big problems last time was stamina and this fight ended before we saw that come in to play, but overall just a much better performance. It’ll be interesting to see where Brant goes from here.
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Jul 12, 2019 17:05
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Brant should have taken what DAZN offered and cashed out against Golovkin
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I saw Brant get schooled by old man Jurgen Braehmer so I was never that sold on him
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Jack B Nimble posted:I just realized I know a lot more about women's mma than boxing, which is wierd because I like boxing more as a spectator. Same tbh. I've been getting into it more over the past couple of years. I think I started getting into it more with the kovalev vs ward 1 fight and having been watching the big matches ever since. I still am trying to understand it, the videos and articles you guys link are very helpful, thank you.
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The channel isn't so active anymore, and if you've been around since Ward vs Kovalev you almost certainly know about it, but I won't miss a chance to mention Lee Wylie's channel. Here's the first video, which replaces the overly simplistic "rope a dope" explanation of Ali's win over Foreman with something that elevates both fighters. https://youtu.be/G1_JW3wnrik
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Joyce - Jennings & Dubois - Gorman are a couple of potentially entertaining Heavyweight scraps on BT Sport in the UK tonight.
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biglads posted:Joyce - Jennings & Dubois - Gorman are a couple of potentially entertaining Heavyweight scraps on BT Sport in the UK tonight. Yeah, lots of decent, under the radar cards today. I did a big write up in the discord on all them. I guess I'll transfer them here, but they're probably typo filled since I tried to hammer them out quickly. quote:ESPN+, 2:45 ET quote:DAZN, 7pm ET quote:ESPN+, 7pm quote:FS1, 8pm ET Wow check out all the content in the discord: https://discord.gg/FUmR3An
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It might get lost amidst everything else, but Kovalev-Yarde was just announced for August 24th, which is a pretty big deal given that he was one of the potential opponents getting floated for Canelo's september fight. I think the walls are sort of closing in on Canelo now. His team has at least made the outward appearance of wanting somebody other than Golovkin, but there are fewer and fewer alternatives available for him. There's talk of Munguia, which would be an obviously bad fight. The other choice would be fighting Andrade, but I feel like the GGG fight is inevitable.
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quote:There's a lot less hype around Gorman, because he doesn't quite seem to have that special something Dubois might have, but at this point in their careers, this is a true 50-50 fight. Stopped in the fifth round. Dubois looked very convincing, Gorman barely troubled him.
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I spaced out on bookmarking this edition of the thread, and thus I've been out of the loop for all of this year, and only thought to check in when I decided to pick up a random fight and watch some punching - and goddamn, did I pick a doozy - Bobby Chacon-Bazooka Limon IV, Fight of the Year 1982. This was a fight like the NBA All-Star Game: no defense, constant shots. Both fighters looking like they're going down for the count multiple times, and it's not until the thirteenth that you can see the tide swing seriously in the direction of one fighter over the other, they both come back from absolutely unreasonable punishment before that exchange. I haven't been wowed by a fight like I have with this in a long, long time. I beg of you to watch it. There's so many punches, I got tired just looking at them being thrown, it's ridiculous. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu85wY55as8 I don't know what it is where I really like digging up older fights, it's not really nostalgia, I didn't even have a passing interest in the sport until the nineties, and even then, my interest was on the level of "oh, there's a fight on, sure, I'll watch." But here I'll be, downloading fights from the 70s-90s like the moment I see the entry on the tracker. I should catch up with whatever's been big this year, as I haven't even seen the headlines, so I'm unspoiled on any big fights we might have had in the last few months.
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Torquemada posted:Stopped in the fifth round. Dubois looked very convincing, Gorman barely troubled him. Yeah, I regret writing the 50-50 thing cause I didn’t know much about Gorman but a lot of boxing media people were saying he was going to win. Great performance by Dubois. I wrote that he was 22, but he’s actually 21, so he’s in no rush to get to the top, but after something like that people are going to want to push him there.
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Pernell Whitaker died last night from injuries sustained after he was hit by a car. He was 55 years old. "Sweet Pea" was considered to be one of the best of his era even if he didn't always get the nod of the judges in close fights, and frequently gets considered as among the greatest fighters of all time. Whitaker was an Olympic gold medalist and won titles in four weight classes from lightweight (135 lb) to super welterweight (154 lb). He was Fighter of the Year in 1989 and was considered pound for pound #1 between 1993 and 1997, with a defensive style that would go on to inspire Floyd Mayweather and countless others. His notable opponents included Jose Luis Ramirez, Julio Cesar Chavez, Oscar De La Hoya, Greg Haugen and Felix Trinidad. Rest in peace.
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Fuuuck. Just walking at an intersection.
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He dominated during a time when I myself trained and was still a fan, before the alphabet and politics killed my passion for even following the sport. At the time I was a massive fan of his defensive style, he seemed so different to the other top boxers and it made him one of the last boxers I truly followed before my attention went to other sports. Rest in peace, truly one of the most underrated legends of boxing.
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drat that is some poo poo. Pernell gave us some great fights and his style was fantastic to watch. Going to look up some of his old fights to watch after work today.
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KidDynamite posted:drat that is some poo poo. Pernell gave us some great fights and his style was fantastic to watch. Going to look up some of his old fights to watch after work today. watch the Chavez fight, it'll make you love good defensive boxing and hate Don King more
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