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I still cannot fathom how a man who the whole Internet saw peeing on an underage girl because his sex tape leaked in 2000 or whatever still insists on keeping sex tapes, knowing that he is at least under more scrutiny. He got away with it even though he was in clear view of everyone else and is just so hosed up in the head that he has to keep on doing it.
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Darko posted:I still cannot fathom how a man who the whole Internet saw peeing on an underage girl because his sex tape leaked in 2000 or whatever still insists on keeping sex tapes, knowing that he is at least under more scrutiny. He got away with it even though he was in clear view of everyone else and is just so hosed up in the head that he has to keep on doing it. Given his whole thing seems to be power, being as flagrant as possible and getting away with it for nearly 20 years after the first time probably just made it better for him.
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Jul 13, 2019 17:59
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Darko posted:I still cannot fathom how a man who the whole Internet saw peeing on an underage girl because his sex tape leaked in 2000 or whatever still insists on keeping sex tapes, knowing that he is at least under more scrutiny. He got away with it even though he was in clear view of everyone else and is just so hosed up in the head that he has to keep on doing it. Said man is notoriously full of himself, I'm sure arrogance made him think he was infallible
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Jul 13, 2019 18:26
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Out of curiosity, how did R Kelly escape a jail sentence given that there's video evidence?
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Jul 13, 2019 18:46
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GrandpaPants posted:Out of curiosity, how did R Kelly escape a jail sentence given that there's video evidence? Victim wouldn't testify, that made identifying her with low quality video evidence inconclusive.
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Jul 13, 2019 18:53
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Said man is notoriously full of himself, I'm sure arrogance made him think he was infallible Sociopaths often have delusions of grandeur and their own superiority over others, which can lead them to making dumb mistakes or even intentionally risking getting caught as a way of taunting others. I'm pretty confident in saying R. Kelly, the man who repeatedly kidnapped children to rape them, is a sociopath.
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Jul 13, 2019 19:02
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Aliyah was 15 years old when they got married, he has literally always always been this way. An important take home here is that Bill Cosby eventually got taken down because he started assaulting white women, R. Kelly has been a known predator of black women for like 30 years and he just kept making money the entire time.
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Jul 13, 2019 19:13
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It also shows just how much power actually affects this stuff. R Kelly was huge back then. Now, not so much. Same with Cosby. One of the surprising things about Weinstein was that he actually got kicked out of Hollywood for it due to him being powerful. They protect their own in entertainment.
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Jul 13, 2019 22:11
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Bust Rodd posted:Aliyah was 15 years old when they got married, he has literally always always been this way. Hannibal Burress is gonna be a footnote in legal history.
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Jul 13, 2019 23:32
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teacup posted:It also shows just how much power actually affects this stuff. R Kelly was huge back then. Now, not so much. Same with Cosby. One of the surprising things about Weinstein was that he actually got kicked out of Hollywood for it due to him being powerful. They protect their own in entertainment. I mean look at how many people are still defending Roman Polanski even though there isn't even ambiguity about whether he raped an underaged girl. He still gets to hang out in Europe and make movies. Its all about having the right friends. The only reason R. Kelly and Bill Cosby got taken down is because they are gigantic crazy assholes that not even other celebrities want to hang out with. Kevin Spacey got taken down because all his other friends were sex perverts too.
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Jul 14, 2019 00:25
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No doubt that predators with money and/or connections have it way too easy. But there's also a gross number of cases that just disappear because nobody gives a gently caress, evidently because the victims are poc or gay or otherwise marginalized. Like, when black & white children are abducted, only the white one makes the news.
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Jul 14, 2019 01:52
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IShallRiseAgain posted:I mean look at how many people are still defending Roman Polanski even though there isn't even ambiguity about whether he raped an underaged girl. He still gets to hang out in Europe and make movies. Its all about having the right friends. The only reason R. Kelly and Bill Cosby got taken down is because they are gigantic crazy assholes that not even other celebrities want to hang out with. Also I think because another actor was the first to accuse him, and then another 20 plus accusers came out of the woodwork. Also he had sexually harassed and in one case assaulted crew on House of Cards and had apparently secretly been forced by Netflix to take a sexual harassment class as a result, so it was easy for them to drop him as soon as the allegations started coming out. And IMO once one major studio openly drops a person for sexual misconduct it’s pretty much over, excepting rare cases where the initial accusation turns out to be false/nonexistant.
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Jul 14, 2019 02:21
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Roman Polanski finally, finally got kicked out of the Motion Picture Academy and I don’t think any major distributors would be willing to distribute his movies anymore, so I think at least there’s been a slight change in the right direction. See also casting couch behavior no longer being something that’s laughed off.
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Jul 14, 2019 02:25
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ImpAtom posted:The guy who literally had a sex tape with an underage girl is making sex tapes with underage girls? If only there was some way we could have foreseen and prevented this abuse. if epstein is any indication is it's rich predators don't know when to quit while they're ahead
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Jul 14, 2019 05:46
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Alan Smithee posted:if epstein is any indication is it's rich predators don't know when to quit while they're ahead They've gotten away with it all their lives, why should they expect this time to be any different?
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Jul 14, 2019 06:36
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dont know this dude either https://twitter.com/LAPDHQ/status/1149895928242819072 https://twitter.com/Complex/status/1150086025324179456 I know girlfriend seems to downplay what he did considering it's implied she was more or less kidnapped but I didn't want to post the ones with pics of her since it felt a bit salacious
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Jul 14, 2019 12:00
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Actually modern scientific research indicates that becoming mega-wealthy can have similar psychological and emotional impacts to severe head trauma, specifically arrested development and a reduction of impulse control. Imagine being 33 years old and thinking that dating a 17 year old made you look young and hot and not super pathetic.
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Jul 14, 2019 13:23
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It's awfully strange to describe these as "sex tapes".
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Jul 14, 2019 13:45
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:It's awfully strange to describe these as "sex tapes". Especially when "Rape Tape" is a much better sound byte.
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Jul 14, 2019 13:58
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Rhyno posted:Especially when "Rape Tape" is a much better sound byte. woke bae queen: "gross"
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Jul 14, 2019 14:08
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Alan Smithee posted:woke bae queen: "gross" I am not serious, I hope that was clear. But I guess "video evidence of rape and assault" doesn't sound good on air.
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Jul 14, 2019 14:11
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They could just be accurate and call it "child pornography".
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Jul 14, 2019 14:17
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Rhyno posted:I am not serious, I hope that was clear. it's okay I'm not a woke bae queen
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Jul 14, 2019 14:18
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:They could just be accurate and call it "child pornography". Let's not be too sensible.
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Jul 14, 2019 14:27
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Said man is notoriously full of himself, I'm sure arrogance made him think he was infallible Trapped in the Closet with the commentary on is some pure strain hilarious narcissism.
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Jul 14, 2019 14:34
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Robert Kelly was also sexually assaulted for years from like 7 to 15, according to his biography, so there's probably more going on there than just being rich-narcissist. He should have just had people get him help when he first started obviously showing his issues instead of enabling him (and that includes fans enabling him by still supporting him).
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Jul 14, 2019 15:08
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I don't think there's any doubt that R. Kelly is as broken rear end an adult as they come, doesn't excuse anything he has done of course.
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Jul 14, 2019 15:25
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Darko posted:Robert Kelly was also sexually assaulted for years from like 7 to 15, according to his biography, so there's probably more going on there than just being rich-narcissist. He should have just had people get him help when he first started obviously showing his issues instead of enabling him (and that includes fans enabling him by still supporting him). Didn't the Boondocks episode basically say that? 'If you actually want to help him, stop him doing this poo poo'. Thing is, enabling rich people is built into the bedrock of our society.
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Jul 14, 2019 15:28
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Didn't the Boondocks episode basically say that? 'If you actually want to help him, stop him doing this poo poo'. There's another layer with black people on top of that; there's paranoia (for good reason) that any attack against famous/powerful black men is white people attempting to suppress black people; so there's kind of an auto-protection that comes in whenever any famous black person is charged with anything. The Boondocks episode on R Kelly is one of the best things I've seen as it touches on so much at once. Shame Rosa Parks got cut from that episode, too.
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Jul 14, 2019 15:32
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Darko posted:There's another layer with black people on top of that; there's paranoia (for good reason) that any attack against famous/powerful black men is white people attempting to suppress black people; so there's kind of an auto-protection that comes in whenever any famous black person is charged with anything. This seems basically exemplified in the OJ trial where they were so gung ho on framing a rich black man they ignored that he was obviously guilty anyway. Might be other angles with how it's frequently violence (especially sexual violence) against women maybe and people seem to have gotten a lot better about that lately. (still not very good but it's saying something)
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Jul 14, 2019 15:47
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:They could just be accurate and call it "child pornography". you're not wrong or anything but i feel like headlines involving celebrities will specifically use the phrase 'sex tape' to underline that it's a tape involving said celebrity, which is obviously a key detail in a story like this
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Jul 14, 2019 15:59
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Brother Entropy posted:you're not wrong or anything but i feel like headlines involving celebrities will specifically use the phrase 'sex tape' to underline that it's a tape involving said celebrity, which is obviously a key detail in a story like this Yeah, "child porn" could mean just something he downloaded. They probably found a decent chunk of that too.
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Jul 14, 2019 16:40
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Brother Entropy posted:you're not wrong or anything but i feel like headlines involving celebrities will specifically use the phrase 'sex tape' to underline that it's a tape involving said celebrity, which is obviously a key detail in a story like this Possibly, but it's also done to make it more salacious and less outright disgusting.
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Jul 14, 2019 19:13
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:They could just be accurate and call it "child pornography". That's not more accurate or better. Calling it "child pornography" makes it worse for the victims because it's using the same terms that the abuser uses and because it is not something rthat any sane person would think of as pornography. It's better to call it for what it is "documented child abuse".
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Jul 14, 2019 20:26
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Alhazred posted:That's not more accurate or better. Calling it "child pornography" makes it worse for the victims because it's using the same terms that the abuser uses and because it is not something rthat any sane person would think of as pornography. It's better to call it for what it is "documented child abuse".
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Jul 14, 2019 21:39
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He probably upgraded from actual tapes as it’s a dead format
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Jul 14, 2019 22:01
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I'm thinking "sex tape" brings the right thing to mind, because since Anderson/Hilton, it's what society knows as taping oneself as having sex with someone else. I'd say "sex tapes with children" if I were to write the headline to bring the proper image to the fore.
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Jul 14, 2019 22:33
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“R Kelly staffers hand over ‘like a whole duffel bag of some seriously hosed up poo poo’”
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Alan Smithee posted:if epstein is any indication is it's rich predators don't know when to quit while they're ahead R. Kelly feat. Jeffrey Epstein - “I Believe I Can Fly”
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Darko posted:I'm thinking "sex tape" brings the right thing to mind, because since Anderson/Hilton, it's what society knows as taping oneself as having sex with someone else. But this isn't a taping of two persons having sex, it is a taping of one person committing rape. We should call it for what it is.
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