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taser rates
Mar 30, 2010
Def ignore only works on the regular defense icons that look like shields, defense bonuses from the AT field looking icons are pretty much there specifically to hard counter that kind of thing.

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Omobono
Feb 19, 2013

That's it! No more hiding in tomato crates! It's time to show that idiota Germany how a real nation fights!

For pasta~! CHARGE!

Lancer Vlad NP deals 95k damage on the gazer boss, Ridertoki NP follow-up deals 105k :allears:.
Golden Rider, why are you so broken?

Shiny777
Oct 29, 2011

YAMI WO KIRISAKU
OH DESIRE


book posted:

Still enjoying this game. Need to add some friends, so please accept me if you can spare it.

ID: 923,217,830
IGN: Denghis

Sent you a request, IGN is Shiny.

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NOT BE A WEIRD SEXUAL CREEP ABOUT PREPUBESCENT ANIME GIRLS, READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE!!!

book posted:

Still enjoying this game. Need to add some friends, so please accept me if you can spare it.

ID: 923,217,830
IGN: Denghis

Sent you a request, IGN is Aleister.

W.T. Fits
Apr 21, 2010

Ready to Poyozo Dance all over your face.

book posted:

Still enjoying this game. Need to add some friends, so please accept me if you can spare it.

ID: 923,217,830
IGN: Denghis

Request sent.
IGN: W.T. Fits

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

38 turns to kill the crabs, so not bad. Ishtar, CuZilla and a borrowed Merlin did the bulk of the work.

Worldwalker_Pure
Feb 27, 2015


32 turns. Used the Merlin/Tamamo/Waver team and let Curse damage take them all out.

One of these days, there'll be a challenge quest I can't Arts-stall through, but today is not that day.

BlazeEmblem
Jun 8, 2013

Uh oh. Do I use Ariadne thread or Goho-M?

book posted:

Still enjoying this game. Need to add some friends, so please accept me if you can spare it.

ID: 923,217,830
IGN: Denghis

Sent you a request. My username is J.R.


I decided to do a ten roll for Columbus. I got this:

BlazeEmblem fucked around with this message at 17:10 on Jul 14, 2019

Dee Ehm
Apr 10, 2014
Small tip for you guys who did this event last year. Don't delete the extra Scathach Assassin you get from this event, keep her around at level 1. She's one of the very few Servants who has a taunt at level 1, so for certain strategies you can use her for a konga line of taunters or give her a on entry / on death craft essence to hold and die.

It's not a huge deal, but it's occasionally useful for some niche strategies or solo fights.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Dee Ehm posted:

Small tip for you guys who did this event last year. Don't delete the extra Scathach Assassin you get from this event, keep her around at level 1. She's one of the very few Servants who has a taunt at level 1, so for certain strategies you can use her for a konga line of taunters or give her a on entry / on death craft essence to hold and die.

It's not a huge deal, but it's occasionally useful for some niche strategies or solo fights.

Just use an extra George.

Omobono
Feb 19, 2013

That's it! No more hiding in tomato crates! It's time to show that idiota Germany how a real nation fights!

For pasta~! CHARGE!

genericnick posted:

Just use an extra George.

You can't bring two* Georgios though. I have no clue what kind of content would require a full strength Georgios and other disposable tanks, but you know, just in case.

*Edit: before support

Pureauthor
Jul 8, 2010

ASK ME ABOUT KISSING A GHOST
2 Georges, a Leonidas, and a poor sap carrying a Poster Girl*

*Dependant on actually acquiring said Poster Girl.

YggdrasilTM
Nov 7, 2011

Omobono posted:

You can't bring two* Georgios though. I have no clue what kind of content would require a full strength Georgios and other disposable tanks, but you know, just in case.

*Edit: before support

I actually have both a level 80 Georgios and a level 1 Georgios.

Bogart
Apr 12, 2010

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YggdrasilTM posted:

I actually have both a level 80 Georgios and a level 1 Georgios.

Brag

Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

Don't like it? well...

YggdrasilTM posted:

I actually have both a level 80 Georgios and a level 1 Georgios.

No like you literally can't bring two of the same Servant to a fight unless one of them is a friend support. So having more taunters is nice.

Galaga Galaxian
Apr 23, 2009

What a childish tactic!
Don't you think you should put more thought into your battleplan?!


Dee Ehm posted:

Small tip for you guys who did this event last year. Don't delete the extra Scathach Assassin you get from this event, keep her around at level 1. She's one of the very few Servants who has a taunt at level 1, so for certain strategies you can use her for a konga line of taunters or give her a on entry / on death craft essence to hold and die.

It's not a huge deal, but it's occasionally useful for some niche strategies or solo fights.

Might as well since she's only worth a few mana prisms, not a rare.

dogsicle
Oct 23, 2012

lv1 george, lv1 leo, and lv25 benkei

plus the outrage you should've gotten free from cbc

Crasical
Apr 22, 2014

GG!*
*GET GOOD
I got Conversation on Hot Sands because that one guy in the thread kept yelling that it was the objectively best choice.

dogsicle
Oct 23, 2012

it's a cool ce with good art but i find myself more and more curious how it got such a reputation...is it just because CBC CEs suck rear end

HGH
Dec 20, 2011
What do people do with extra nonevent 4*CEs? Like, after you MLB them, stuff like all those extra Code Casts, Art of the Poisonous Snake and so on that have niche uses. Sell, fuse or just keep MLBing copies?

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
I definitely dumb them into CE bombs for XP if I'm confident I will never use them.

Crasical
Apr 22, 2014

GG!*
*GET GOOD

Hurrrrrr.

Tribladeofchaos
Jul 2, 2008

IT'S SHOWTIME!

Crasical posted:


Hurrrrrr.

I just beat Agartha a week ago so I cringed at this too when I got it. Those bastards knew exactly what they were doing with this I'm sure.

dogsicle
Oct 23, 2012

HGH posted:

What do people do with extra nonevent 4*CEs? Like, after you MLB them, stuff like all those extra Code Casts, Art of the Poisonous Snake and so on that have niche uses. Sell, fuse or just keep MLBing copies?

you'll want to keep extras of Art of Death, Gentle Affection, and Art of the Poisonous Snake because they all boost drops in the DaVinci event that reruns next year. other than that i'd use them for CE exp, and you can MLB them if it saves archive space since exp is carried over.

edit: Innocent Maiden is another one to hold onto since it boosts drops in the F/Z event.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

dogsicle posted:

it's a cool ce with good art but i find myself more and more curious how it got such a reputation...is it just because CBC CEs suck rear end
heated sands is the strongest star weight up ce in the game im pretty sure, in terms of how much it boosts star weight by. that's naturally pretty handy to have around. i use it a lot on xiang yu on jp.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
I burn them for Mana Prisms.

dogsicle
Oct 23, 2012

Endorph posted:

heated sands is the strongest star weight up ce in the game im pretty sure, in terms of how much it boosts star weight by. that's naturally pretty handy to have around. i use it a lot on xiang yu on jp.

SDE starts and maxes out higher (600-800%) at the tradeoff of being a lower rarity with no other bonuses, but since hot sands likely won't be MLB i dunno how much you actually lose out on by going with SDE. they're still not bringing any zerker very far above caster weight so it just seems like weak rng mitigation instead of a dependable offensive buff. what i kinda wish they'd do is take the style of those "increase NP strength by x% for y class" and just make a CE that increases weight by 3000% for zerkers only, or does that for only a few turns etc.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

i mean if youre trying to feed someone crit stars then crit damage up is pretty good

Bogart
Apr 12, 2010

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Oh right. I still have a bunch of friend slots available. 761,014,555. :toot:

dogsicle
Oct 23, 2012

Endorph posted:

i mean if youre trying to feed someone crit stars then crit damage up is pretty good

i look at it as hot sands being a tradeoff compared to other hybrid crit CEs like VotM. in that sense you're losing an offensive buff (buster up) in favor of a weak weight boost that doesn't really help ensure a zerker can crit, and then your crit buff is worth less than usual. i feel like xiang might actually be the only zerker that really gets put in this position because he packs his own crit buffs, but his sources of stargen seem like they should be enough to flood with help from supports on those single turns his crit buffs are up.

Ruby Prism
Aug 7, 2011

With this, I'll be able to make the ultimate pie!
Got Scheherazade while rolling for Holmes with the last 30 quartz they handed out! She's one of those servants I didn't expect to connect with, but ended up rolling for. I can't wait for her strengthening, because well, a party-wide Guts effect that isn't tied to Irisviel would be very appreciated.

I was ready for disappointment when I didn't see any loading, but she's been in the game for a while so I guess all of her art and sound assets were already cached or something.

Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

Don't like it? well...

dogsicle posted:

i look at it as hot sands being a tradeoff compared to other hybrid crit CEs like VotM. in that sense you're losing an offensive buff (buster up) in favor of a weak weight boost that doesn't really help ensure a zerker can crit, and then your crit buff is worth less than usual. i feel like xiang might actually be the only zerker that really gets put in this position because he packs his own crit buffs, but his sources of stargen seem like they should be enough to flood with help from supports on those single turns his crit buffs are up.

There are plenty of other, non Berserkers with crit buffs that could use a CE that lets them absorb more stars.

Suaimhneas
Nov 19, 2005

That's how you get tinnitus

I've used it on Taiga to great effect

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NOT BE A WEIRD SEXUAL CREEP ABOUT PREPUBESCENT ANIME GIRLS, READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE!!!

Dr Pepper posted:

There are plenty of other, non Berserkers with crit buffs that could use a CE that lets them absorb more stars.

Yeah, this. I see the crit star gather CEs as being for my lower star weight servants with a built-in crit buff, for instance Hot Sands is great on Karna.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

dogsicle posted:

i look at it as hot sands being a tradeoff compared to other hybrid crit CEs like VotM. in that sense you're losing an offensive buff (buster up) in favor of a weak weight boost that doesn't really help ensure a zerker can crit, and then your crit buff is worth less than usual. i feel like xiang might actually be the only zerker that really gets put in this position because he packs his own crit buffs, but his sources of stargen seem like they should be enough to flood with help from supports on those single turns his crit buffs are up.
Idk the weight boost is substantial if you arent pairing berserkers with riders

Like xiang/bersekerlot/skadi is a team. Its not about getting their weight higher than everyone, their weight just has to be higher than the other people on their team

dogsicle
Oct 23, 2012

Dr Pepper posted:

There are plenty of other, non Berserkers with crit buffs that could use a CE that lets them absorb more stars.

yeah, i think it has more valid use cases for classes like lancer/saber/assassin, it's just bad on zerkers. avengers can also benefit but i think other than gorgon (who can solve her star issues with merlin and co) they mostly have tools to enable their own crits.

Endorph posted:

Idk the weight boost is substantial if you arent pairing berserkers with riders

Like xiang/bersekerlot/skadi is a team. Its not about getting their weight higher than everyone, their weight just has to be higher than the other people on their team

fair enough, i was looking at it in the context of a dps double support team where xiang is only getting like 36 weight compared to two casters (or worse with other class supports).

Crasical
Apr 22, 2014

GG!*
*GET GOOD
I kinda hate watermelon but I wonder if that'd still be the thing to grow considering that's going to be your primary form of sweetner on a desert island. Pineapple juice in a coconut shell, sipping as the waves lap on the beach and your idiot servants detonate melons with their noble phantasms.

Aurora
Jan 7, 2008

all you have to do is put your favorite berserker/mhxa/mhxx on a team. easy

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NOT BE A WEIRD SEXUAL CREEP ABOUT PREPUBESCENT ANIME GIRLS, READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE!!!


:smith:

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W.T. Fits
Apr 21, 2010

Ready to Poyozo Dance all over your face.

It's been over half a year, and this still feels too soon. :negative:

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