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Palpatine will be an Ewok now and voiced by Mike Stoklasa
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Ingmar terdman posted:I think they designed ship models codenamed "A" and "B" and kept the names. And the fact that the A-wing looks like an A turned out to be a bit of a coincidence
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Jul 15, 2019 22:34
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Jerkface posted:- Whats Rey gonna do now that she is carrying the Jedi legacy The problem is no one cares about any of this because there are no good characters behind any of it.
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Jul 15, 2019 22:46
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I know Luke died in the last movie, but Bigger Luke’s fate remains unresolved.
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Jul 15, 2019 22:54
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Oh god, it really is being written by the guy who wrote BvS and Justice League. ugggghhhhhhhh
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Jul 15, 2019 23:07
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The "no hooks" issue for TLJ going into the third movie sort of hinges on two things: 1) The characters all seem to reach reasonable conclusions to their arcs (if they had arcs to begin with). Rey reaches a point where I guess she's ready to create her own legacy. Finn reaches some degree of self-actualization. Kylo is liberated from the two remaining paternal authorities in his life. Poe has a vaguely good idea after having a bunch of bad ideas. 2) Since the characters all basically seem to have reached maturity, then resolving the central conflict of Resistance vs First Order is really all that's left. That would be okay, if the first two movies had given us any understanding of that conflict, or any reason to be invested.
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Jul 15, 2019 23:09
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Also, if it wasn't for meta knowledge that this is a children's movie series and the middle entry in a trilogy there would be no reason at all to think the resistance vs. first order conflict isn't resolved already. We're told that the first order conquered the entire galaxy offscreen and there are 15 horribly traumatized and maimed survivors left in the resistance, with one ship, led by a woman who has no allies and can barely speak or stand
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Jul 15, 2019 23:26
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General Dog posted:2) Since the characters all basically seem to have reached maturity, then resolving the central conflict of Resistance vs First Order is really all that's left. That would be okay, if the first two movies had given us any understanding of that conflict, or any reason to be invested.
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Jul 15, 2019 23:52
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No Mods No Masters posted:Also, if it wasn't for meta knowledge that this is a children's movie series and the middle entry in a trilogy there would be no reason at all to think the resistance vs. first order conflict isn't resolved already. We're told that the first order conquered the entire galaxy offscreen and there are 15 horribly traumatized and maimed survivors left in the resistance, with one ship, led by a woman who has no allies and can barely speak or stand Not to mention that they did it in record time since there is no time-gap between Episodes VII and VIII.
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Jul 16, 2019 00:24
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FlamingLiberal posted:This is another big problem for me. I think it has a lot to do with the fact that they really gloss over what went on between ROTJ and TFA. That and having grown up with the OT characters I am more invested in what is going on with them, but then they immediately kill off Han, Luke is not really Luke and then dies, and Leia hasn't been in either movie much and will presumably be removed from the picture somehow by plot contrivance since Carrie Fisher died before she got to film this movie They're using archival footage of Fisher from TFA / TLJ.
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Jul 16, 2019 00:25
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Timby posted:They're using archival footage of Fisher from TFA / TLJ.
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Jul 16, 2019 00:28
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Timby posted:They're using archival footage of Fisher from TFA / TLJ. Driven mad by the annihilation of the Not-Quite-Rebellion, Leia loses her grip on reality, spouting nonsense to whoever will listen, except when she is lucid and looks mysteriously like a rubber puppet.
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Jul 16, 2019 00:42
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FlamingLiberal posted:OK let me clarify that I meant that they're going to have to find some way to write her out of the story since I can't imagine she has a full film's worth of footage still in the can. You don't need it, just get McDiarmid in the Emperor prosthetics, put on lipstick and a wig and you'll have a pretty life like coked-out Fisher.
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Jul 16, 2019 00:50
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it wouldve been cool if ackbar was the one to do the hyperspace ramming speed thing
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Jul 16, 2019 01:49
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I think the teaser all but confirmed there's some kind of time travel/alternate universe hijinks going on. I don't think that planet at the end with the death star sticking out of the ocean is Endor, simply because it doesn't look like Endor. There's no forest and no ewoks. Would it stand to reason that a planet would have more than one ecosystem? Of course, but not in Star Wars. I say it's some loving galaxy B bullshit where ol' Palpy is still alive.
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Jul 16, 2019 02:11
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Jerkface posted:- Whats Rey gonna do now that she is carrying the Jedi legacy 2 days
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Jul 16, 2019 02:51
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Call me crazy, but I think it’s more likely we get a new-look Endor (which is justifiable since the Death Star fell on it) than it is that we get loving time travel and multiverses.
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Jul 16, 2019 02:52
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Will Kylo burn Bespin?
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Jul 16, 2019 02:53
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General Dog posted:Call me crazy, but I think it’s more likely we get a new-look Endor (which is justifiable since the Death Star fell on it) than it is that we get loving time travel and multiverses. counterpoint: JJ Abrams
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Jul 16, 2019 03:08
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Ramrod Hotshot posted:I think the teaser all but confirmed there's some kind of time travel/alternate universe hijinks going on. I don't think that planet at the end with the death star sticking out of the ocean is Endor, simply because it doesn't look like Endor. There's no forest and no ewoks. Would it stand to reason that a planet would have more than one ecosystem? Of course, but not in Star Wars. I say it's some loving galaxy B bullshit where ol' Palpy is still alive. the environment of Endor is never seen since the base is on one of the moons of Endor. But more seriously a space ship of that size slamming into the planet would create a crater big enough to look like the sea as pictured But even more seriously if theres time travel Disney should just shut down the Star Wars park now because thats the end of it.
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Jul 16, 2019 03:09
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Barudak posted:the environment of Endor is never seen since the base is on one of the moons of Endor. heheheheh
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Jul 16, 2019 05:34
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Time travel Thousands of years into the past Rey is the first Jedi. It rhymes.
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Jul 16, 2019 05:37
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It obviously can't be the forest moon of Endor because the sequel trilogy (also Rogue One and Solo) refuses to feature any planet featured in the previous movies. I'm pretty sure it must be a condition set by Disney to the writers. It's extremely frustrating to me because we keep getting planets that look like Tatooine but are not actually supposed to be Tatooine. Just like everything else in the sequels, the planet design is mostly really boring. My guess is that the Death Star remains are gonna be the remains of some unfinished third Death Star that was hidden away during the events of ROTJ and then scrapped. They're gonna be located on a new planet named after JJ Abrams dog or something.
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Jul 16, 2019 05:58
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Captain Jesus posted:It obviously can't be the forest moon of Endor because the sequel trilogy (also Rogue One and Solo) refuses to feature any planet featured in the previous movies. I'm pretty sure it must be a condition set by Disney to the writers. It's extremely frustrating to me because we keep getting planets that look like Tatooine but are not actually supposed to be Tatooine. Just like everything else in the sequels, the planet design is mostly really boring. Uhhh, Yavin IV was clearly featured in Rogue One.
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Captain Jesus posted:It obviously can't be the forest moon of Endor because the sequel trilogy (also Rogue One and Solo) refuses to feature any planet featured in the previous movies. I'm pretty sure it must be a condition set by Disney to the writers. It's extremely frustrating to me because we keep getting planets that look like Tatooine but are not actually supposed to be Tatooine. Just like everything else in the sequels, the planet design is mostly really boring. Crait and Scarif were pretty good at least. Also I don't know how to square "don't use old planets" with their slavish rehashing of the original trilogy.
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Jul 16, 2019 06:21
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General Dog posted:Call me crazy, but I think it’s more likely we get a new-look Endor (which is justifiable since the Death Star fell on it) than it is that we get loving time travel and multiverses. That would mean that they'd have to accept the Endor Holocaust as having happened to some degree. Considering the amount of mental gymnastics and retcon explanations that were done to essentially say 'nuh-uh' rather than even acknowledge the possibility that the Rebellion caused collateral damage on innocents/non-combatants, I can see them running like a starving man to a freshly laid out buffet to a time travel/multiverse explanation.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Crait and Scarif were pretty good at least. New planets = more money Being the same as the old planets = familiar and comforting
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Jul 16, 2019 06:50
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Everything that happened after Luke got his hand lopped off in ESB is a trauma-induced force vision, a CGI Luke will snap out of it, grimace, and hold on to that antenna for dear life.
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Jul 16, 2019 08:24
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Bogus Adventure posted:Uhhh, Yavin IV was clearly featured in Rogue One. True, I forgot about that. I think also Vader's castle in Rogue one was supposed to be on Mustafar? I'm pretty sure it's not explicitly stated though so it might have been just some other identical lava planet.
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Jul 16, 2019 12:02
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do you guys think there's only like four planets? multiple desert planets in a galaxy, so what
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Jul 16, 2019 14:35
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The problem isn’t that multiple desert planets exist in the galaxy, it’s that we’re having to spend so much time with them to the exclusion of something different.
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Jul 16, 2019 14:44
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I wish they had more unique planets for sure. We really don’t need 50 barren desert/wasteland ones.
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Jul 16, 2019 14:56
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Riptor posted:it wouldve been cool if ackbar was the one to do the hyperspace ramming speed thing Having Ackbar the suicide bomber in a Star War sure would have been something, alright.
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Jul 16, 2019 15:02
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You know I hope they do go ahead with the stupid time travel theory as it would be more or less an open admission of what everybody already knows, that Star Wars can only tell one type of story. Unfortunately I think ghost-emperor turning the Ewoks evil is simply too good an idea for this series, however.
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Jul 16, 2019 15:05
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Thing is, the prequels had desert planets too, but Genosis and Utapau felt distinct from each other and Tatooine. It's only the sequel trilogy that has Tatooine/Jakku and Coruscant/Hosnian, planets that look the same, play the same narrative role, and yet, inexplicably, aren't supposed to be the same.
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Jul 16, 2019 15:06
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Robot Style posted:Having Ackbar the suicide bomber in a Star War sure would have been something, alright. Jek Porkins
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Friendly reminder that Endor has giant tree spiders that descend from the tree tops to suck your blood and scream at you, the rebels were in the wrong imo.
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Jul 16, 2019 15:29
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Angry Salami posted:Thing is, the prequels had desert planets too, but Genosis and Utapau felt distinct from each other and Tatooine. It's only the sequel trilogy that has Tatooine/Jakku and Coruscant/Hosnian, planets that look the same, play the same narrative role, and yet, inexplicably, aren't supposed to be the same. Or, as Cnut (  ) put it:Cnut the Great posted:Instead, let's take a look at the way past Star Wars media has depicted different planets nominally sharing a single biome.
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Jul 16, 2019 15:53
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YaketySass posted:Or, as Cnut (
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Cheesus posted:Really? What happened to him? He left to become a navigator on a spice freighter.
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