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CPL593H
Oct 28, 2009

I know what you did last summer, and frankly I am displeased.

EL BROMANCE posted:

Nothing quite beats the “fun” of going to the video store to find the specific thing you want is out, or even worse - getting home and finding the tape is hosed. And nobody likes returning tapes.

There’s nostalgia to be had for sure but ehhh I’ll happily take what we have these days over it.

Video stores existed beyond the VHS era and in the many years and countless times I rented movie I had a defective tape once. I just prefer going to real places. Ticking boxes on a computer screen is so sterile and joyless. And the selection is loving terrible unless you have a shitload of streaming apps. Even a small or moderately stocked video store had a larger selection than any streaming site. This isn't about nostalgia for me. I just genuinely think it was better.

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Origami Dali
Jan 7, 2005

Get ready to fuck!
You fucker's fucker!
You fucker!
I once rented a tape of Madman to watch w a buddy and the reels were disconnected. I took the tape apart with a glasses screwdriver, re-reeled and scotch taped it, sealed it back up and watched the movie. And it's a fond memory. The streaming equivalent to that is opening a new port on my router to bypass the firewall. It just doesn't have the same charm.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
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CPL593H posted:

Video stores existed beyond the VHS era and in the many years and countless times I rented movie I had a defective tape once. I just prefer going to real places. Ticking boxes on a computer screen is so sterile and joyless. And the selection is loving terrible unless you have a shitload of streaming apps. Even a small or moderately stocked video store had a larger selection than any streaming site. This isn't about nostalgia for me. I just genuinely think it was better.

Even though I said tapes, everything applies to dvds too. And rentals aren’t the equivalent of streaming services, renting from Amazon and Apple is, so the choice of films destroys even the biggest Blockbuster.

The only thing you lack with doing it online is the quality isn’t as good as having the disc, but eh convenience and choice outweigh that for most people.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
I worked at a Blockbuster around the time when DVD was first taking over and my sense was that it hurt the business because they were so easy to scratch. I had a lot of free rentals myself as an employee and it seemed like every disc I rented had a 50/50 shot of playing all the way through. To avoid that issue you basically had to stick to new releases and try to rent them the weekend of release. It just made for a bad experience for people to have to come back time after time to swap discs.

Boywhiz88
Sep 11, 2005

floating 26" off da ground. BURR!

roffels posted:

That's it!

Nice! I was thinking about going but had too much to do, so I opted for the Blu-Ray. Hence the topic and specificity. I can’t remember if Alamo Drafthouse had a 70mm or a digital copy, I think the latter. gently caress, that would have been so tight to catch. Oh well, next time!

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Origami Dali posted:

A line in this stuck out for me, “You don’t really meet people because of Netflix".

Why not? None of the streaming services have any kind of social element, and it seems like an oversight. A Netflix with a friends list, maybe via Letterboxd integration or something, would be cool. Maybe each film can have a lobby where people can join to watch together, or a place to talk about the film after. Filter for your city if you're looking for someone local, hell, integrate a dating component. There's lots of possibilities there.

The only thing I've seen that's anything like this is BigscreenVR, and there the choices are incredibly limited unless you know someone with amazing broadband and good taste in movies. That being said, it feels like the actual future of social movie watching.

i've literally been wanting to do this for a while but i've been stonewalled on tech

essentially my idea would be to merge something like PlutoTV (ie a bunch of curated channels with TV-like scheduling and delivery) with something like Twitch (ie live chat and reactions). add a private room feature where people who pay for a slightly higher tier can pick from all the licensed content and invite their friends, and this problem would be basically solved

the problem is i have zero loving clue how to do any of this (though i'd probably be able to handle content licensing and curation more or less 100%) and have so far failed to find anyone who would know

Empress Brosephine
Mar 31, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Goon TV was that and it owned. I forgot what it was actually called but it was great to be social with a smaller group of people and talk about the movie.

roffels
Jul 27, 2004

Yo Taxi!

Boywhiz88 posted:

Nice! I was thinking about going but had too much to do, so I opted for the Blu-Ray. Hence the topic and specificity. I can’t remember if Alamo Drafthouse had a 70mm or a digital copy, I think the latter. gently caress, that would have been so tight to catch. Oh well, next time!

70MM is rare around here, but the film makes its way around. Trylon played it digitally last year.

roffels fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Jul 30, 2019

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
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Empress Brosephine posted:

Goon TV was that and it owned. I forgot what it was actually called but it was great to be social with a smaller group of people and talk about the movie.

I think it used Synchtube as the backend. I’ve definitely seen that used in the past on here but not sure if it exists anymore.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

EL BROMANCE posted:

I think it used Synchtube as the backend. I’ve definitely seen that used in the past on here but not sure if it exists anymore.

There's a Chrome extension called Netflix Party that lets you get a group together to watch a show or movie on Netflix simultaneously. It includes voice chat.

CPL593H
Oct 28, 2009

I know what you did last summer, and frankly I am displeased.

roffels posted:

70MM is rare around here, but the film makes its way around. Trylon played it digitally last year.

They're releasing that Joker movie in 70mm for some reason. Go see that.

ChazTurbo
Oct 4, 2014
I caved in and got a Steelbook copy of Zoolander. Anyone know if 2 was any good?

Lizard Combatant
Sep 29, 2010

I have some notes.

Origami Dali posted:

A line in this stuck out for me, “You don’t really meet people because of Netflix".

Why not? None of the streaming services have any kind of social element, and it seems like an oversight. A Netflix with a friends list, maybe via Letterboxd integration or something, would be cool. Maybe each film can have a lobby where people can join to watch together, or a place to talk about the film after. Filter for your city if you're looking for someone local, hell, integrate a dating component. There's lots of possibilities there.

The only thing I've seen that's anything like this is BigscreenVR, and there the choices are incredibly limited unless you know someone with amazing broadband and good taste in movies. That being said, it feels like the actual future of social movie watching.

You'll never get this or any other kind of innovation while each app is allowed to hold a monopoly on its content. The market will just continue to fragment before collapsing and being absorbed by Disney and Amazon.

Lizard Combatant fucked around with this message at 03:32 on Jul 30, 2019

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Isn't social stuff what BD-Live is supposed to be? I never used it. Does that still get integrated into newer disks or did they stop bothering?

Unmature posted:

There's a great Venture Bros. reference to that
I figured there was going to be some stuff that didn't work today, just wasn't prepared for it to be so blatant. I mean this is clearly not a case of anyone being "too sensitive". I understand that a lot of the violence got edited out at one point. Now that was dumb.

CPL593H
Oct 28, 2009

I know what you did last summer, and frankly I am displeased.

Casimir Radon posted:

Isn't social stuff what BD-Live is supposed to be? I never used it. Does that still get integrated into newer disks or did they stop bothering?

I figured there was going to be some stuff that didn't work today, just wasn't prepared for it to be so blatant. I mean this is clearly not a case of anyone being "too sensitive". I understand that a lot of the violence got edited out at one point. Now that was dumb.

I think it was some kind of way to intergrate online interactive featurs with movies but it didn't exactly set the world on fire. The only thing I ever saw it do was make the movie not play. I haven't seen it in years but maybe it's still around in some form.

On the other subject, I was in a thrift store today looking at antique Viewmaster reels and one of them was Little Black Sambo.

Boinks
Nov 24, 2003



I popped in a 10 year old disc with BD live once and it started playing current trailers. Really freaked me out.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


I'm pretty sure this is the same version of the story book my dad had growing up.

It's probably still at my grandparent's house.

Boinks posted:

I popped in a 10 year old disc with BD live once and it started playing current trailers. Really freaked me out.
That I've seen. Seems like one of the advertised features was the ability to sync up your copy with someone else. Maybe an interesting idea, but probably a major hassle.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



ChazTurbo posted:

I caved in and got a Steelbook copy of Zoolander. Anyone know if 2 was any good?

Love the first, but boy was the 2nd an absolute stinker. I don’t remember laughing once.

CPL593H
Oct 28, 2009

I know what you did last summer, and frankly I am displeased.

Casimir Radon posted:

I'm pretty sure this is the same version of the story book my dad had growing up.

It's probably still at my grandparent's house.

That I've seen. Seems like one of the advertised features was the ability to sync up your copy with someone else. Maybe an interesting idea, but probably a major hassle.

I didn't have a Viewmaster with me so I'm not sure if it was this version or not.

Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006

ChazTurbo posted:

I caved in and got a Steelbook copy of Zoolander. Anyone know if 2 was any good?

2 is awful.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!


So was the first. Although it's entirely possible I just didn't get the humor. I don't really "get" what Stiller is going for in his direction and writing, outside of The Cable Guy (which, as I understand, he wrote for ... Chris Farley, I think?).

Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006

I love one. I haven't seen it in a while so my nostalgia might be glossing over any problematic moments. But it's a good parody of The Manchurian Candidate with some fantastic cameos.

2 was transphobic as all hell. I saw it for free at a screening maybe 6 months before it came out. Awful, pointless sequel.

ChazTurbo
Oct 4, 2014

Detective No. 27 posted:

I love one. I haven't seen it in a while so my nostalgia might be glossing over any problematic moments. But it's a good parody of The Manchurian Candidate with some fantastic cameos.

2 was transphobic as all hell. I saw it for free at a screening maybe 6 months before it came out. Awful, pointless sequel.

I'm a sucker for really dumb comedies that manage to hone in their dumbess. Zoolander has aged well imo but it's been a few years since I've seen it. Still I couldn't pass up on the BLUESTEEL edition. I'm now eagerly awaiting the Clifford br release (probably never gonna happen).

codyclarke
Jan 10, 2006

IDIOT SOUP
Does anyone know a good resource that lists American movies or TV shows that are only available as foreign releases? I recently stumbled on the fact that the TV show 'Cosby' that Bill Cosby did after The Cosby Show has a complete series DVD set in Germany, and nowhere else. Also I think there are some other TV shows that only have complete series sets outside of the US, but I forget which.

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.

Detective No. 27 posted:

I love one. I haven't seen it in a while so my nostalgia might be glossing over any problematic moments. But it's a good parody of The Manchurian Candidate with some fantastic cameos.

2 was transphobic as all hell. I saw it for free at a screening maybe 6 months before it came out. Awful, pointless sequel.

Last time Ben Stiller was on Stern he did the whole "it's hard to do comedy now because people are too sensitive" boo hoo act every clown who was big in the 90s Gay Panic Boom does now. Bro should just hang it up and be a Producer.

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

One detail about Network's Monty Python set - they're offering both 1080i50 and 1080i60 versions depending on where it's shipping to. Apparently, you can contact customer service to request a particular edition if you're able to play 50Hz content - which I'll be doing since it plays just fine on either my region free player or even my UHD one.

Also, Network released an incredible 50th anniversary box set of The Prisoner for an oddly reasonable price:
https://networkonair.com/all-products/2753-prisoner-the-50th-anniversary-limited-edition-blu-ray-

Has several hours of extra documentaries over the long-OOP A&E set, two Danger Man episodes in HD, a 6-CD set of of the soundtrack, and a hardcover book. And it's all packaged to look like something you'd buy in The Village.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Egbert Souse posted:

One detail about Network's Monty Python set - they're offering both 1080i50 and 1080i60 versions depending on where it's shipping to. Apparently, you can contact customer service to request a particular edition if you're able to play 50Hz content - which I'll be doing since it plays just fine on either my region free player or even my UHD one.

Also, Network released an incredible 50th anniversary box set of The Prisoner for an oddly reasonable price:
https://networkonair.com/all-products/2753-prisoner-the-50th-anniversary-limited-edition-blu-ray-

Has several hours of extra documentaries over the long-OOP A&E set, two Danger Man episodes in HD, a 6-CD set of of the soundtrack, and a hardcover book. And it's all packaged to look like something you'd buy in The Village.

I’m in America—if I buy this from them, how nasty are the shipping fees?

Spacebump
Dec 24, 2003

Dallas Mavericks: Generations
Loved the first Zoolander growing up but the second one was so bad. Would not recommend it.

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

I’m in America—if I buy this from them, how nasty are the shipping fees?

Over on Blu-ray.com people are saying it's around $10-20 to ship the Monty Python box from the UK.

I can see a US release coming eventually, but it'll likely only be the 1080i60 version. Most 25fps content either has to be encoded within 1080i60Hz or slowed down to 1080p24Hz for Region A. Region B or UK-centric releases are routinely encoded as 1080i50Hz

US PS3/4s tend to not be able to play any 50Hz content regardless if it's region free or not, but I'm able to play PAL or 1080i50Hz content fine on my Sony UHD and all-region Blu players. My Samsung 4K display even switches to 50Hz, so it's not converting it and possibly causing choppiness.

Cemetry Gator
Apr 3, 2007

Do you find something comical about my appearance when I'm driving my automobile?
Are there any releases that slow down 25 fps to 24? I'm just curious what examples would be since it sounds terrible.

And no, those portions of Hard Days Night doesn't count since that's how it was originally released.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


How good will the Monty Python bits that were filmed in tape look in HD?

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

Cemetry Gator posted:

Are there any releases that slow down 25 fps to 24? I'm just curious what examples would be since it sounds terrible.

And no, those portions of Hard Days Night doesn't count since that's how it was originally released.

Criterion opted to release Kieslowski's Dekalog and Fassbinder's Eight Hours Don't Make a Day slowed down to 24fps (1080p). The UK editions are 1080i50Hz, though encoded progressive. However, they kept Baal and Fassbinder's Berlin Alexanderplatz at 25fps by encoding within 1080i60Hz (despite the DVD edition of the latter being slowed down).

Dekalog is probably a coin flip because two parts were released theatrically (and the entire Dekalog got theatrical play).


Casimir Radon posted:

How good will the Monty Python bits that were filmed in tape look in HD?

Probably quite good considering they went to the 2" masters as the primary source and the right upscaling algorithms will look nice. Also helps that PAL is more frame-friendly than NTSC.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Egbert Souse posted:

Probably quite good considering they went to the 2" masters as the primary source and the right upscaling algorithms will look nice. Also helps that PAL is more frame-friendly than NTSC.
That's good to hear. I don't know dick about old broadcast formats.

caligulamprey
Jan 23, 2007

It never stops.

Casimir Radon posted:

How good will the Monty Python bits that were filmed in tape look in HD?
I've been wondering the same thing about the Blu-ray re-release of the old Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy TV series, myself...

caligulamprey
Jan 23, 2007

It never stops.

Dreams do come true.



EDIT: Good Christ, Fantastic Fest gotta 2k restored version of The Peanut Butter Solution, too

caligulamprey fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Jul 30, 2019

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

YES!

E: In their latest releases there's a german liquid sky-ish-looking new wave movie and a puppet porno. Interesting stuff.

Steen71
Apr 10, 2017

Fun Shoe

Casimir Radon posted:

How good will the Monty Python bits that were filmed in tape look in HD?

Probably similar to this Doctor Who BD: https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Doctor-Who-Tom-Baker-Complete-Season-One-Blu-ray/196885/#Screenshots
In other words: Worse than DVD, better than VHS.

CPL593H
Oct 28, 2009

I know what you did last summer, and frankly I am displeased.

caligulamprey posted:

Dreams do come true.



EDIT: Good Christ, Fantastic Fest gotta 2k restored version of The Peanut Butter Solution, too

The prophecy has been fullfilled.

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

Steen71 posted:

Probably similar to this Doctor Who BD: https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Doctor-Who-Tom-Baker-Complete-Season-One-Blu-ray/196885/#Screenshots
In other words: Worse than DVD, better than VHS.

What? That's some excellent upscaling work.

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CPL593H
Oct 28, 2009

I know what you did last summer, and frankly I am displeased.

Egbert Souse posted:

One detail about Network's Monty Python set - they're offering both 1080i50 and 1080i60 versions depending on where it's shipping to. Apparently, you can contact customer service to request a particular edition if you're able to play 50Hz content - which I'll be doing since it plays just fine on either my region free player or even my UHD one.

Also, Network released an incredible 50th anniversary box set of The Prisoner for an oddly reasonable price:
https://networkonair.com/all-products/2753-prisoner-the-50th-anniversary-limited-edition-blu-ray-

Has several hours of extra documentaries over the long-OOP A&E set, two Danger Man episodes in HD, a 6-CD set of of the soundtrack, and a hardcover book. And it's all packaged to look like something you'd buy in The Village.

Will this make a huge difference if I buy the America compatible one? I mean I've watched and own all kind of British tv stuff and it never seems weird.

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